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Old 03-29-2018, 01:42 PM   #33
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Re: There is not enough power outside of vulnerability.

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The most impactful changes would be health regen rate and health regen cooldown.

Both of those have the ability to drastically increase the KD rate, making damage feel higher.

They both currently scale with max health, which is why a lot of these "you can eat X number of this kind of strike before a KD" test cases are kind of pointless, because they are always done at full health.

Base damage does not need to go up at all, and never will.
Then lets make counter damage lower please right now compared to base damage the vulerability is too high
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Old 03-29-2018, 01:43 PM   #34
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The most impactful changes would be health regen rate and health regen cooldown.

Both of those have the ability to drastically increase the KD rate, making damage feel higher.

They both currently scale with max health, which is why a lot of these "you can eat X number of this kind of strike before a KD" test cases are kind of pointless, because they are always done at full health.

Base damage does not need to go up at all, and never will.
What about base stamina cost?

I think +1 or +2 would be decent.
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:08 PM   #35
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Re: There is not enough power outside of vulnerability.

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why does base damage not need to go up?
If it did, certain strikes would be certain rocks (unless there were mitigating factors).
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:19 PM   #36
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If it did, certain strikes would be certain rocks (unless there were mitigating factors).
Why is that not the case offline?

I play with power and damage turned up a couple clicks.
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:27 PM   #37
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Re: There is not enough power outside of vulnerability.

Pick someone with a high power and high level roundhouse at HW or LHW and see if a normal kick from a good range, without any vulnerbaility results in a rock. I'd wager it does. I'd also guess that a high power fighter would also rock the opponent from a kick catch punch, even as the first strike of the fight.

I dunno if you can use sliders on practice mode, maybe I think you'd be able to test this in custom fight mode with two controlers.
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Re: There is not enough power outside of vulnerability.

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Pick someone with a high power and high level roundhouse at HW or LHW and see if a normal kick from a good range, without any vulnerbaility results in a rock. I'd wager it does. I'd also guess that a high power fighter would also rock the opponent from a kick catch punch, even as the first strike of the fight.

I dunno if you can use sliders on practice mode, maybe I think you'd be able to test this in custom fight mode with two controlers.
I’ll do it tomorrow
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:10 AM   #39
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I’ll do it tomorrow
Thanks. Please let us know how it goes.
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:44 AM   #40
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Re: There is not enough power outside of vulnerability.

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Pick someone with a high power and high level roundhouse at HW or LHW and see if a normal kick from a good range, without any vulnerbaility results in a rock. I'd wager it does. I'd also guess that a high power fighter would also rock the opponent from a kick catch punch, even as the first strike of the fight.

I dunno if you can use sliders on practice mode, maybe I think you'd be able to test this in custom fight mode with two controlers.
Usually the second or third headkick that causes a rock, they arent in a row but mulitiple times through a fight. Kicks in general have a more equal power amongst people/fighters, like shogun has the hardest kick ever recorded at 2749 pounds of force compared to cain Velasquez 2300 pounds. The hardest shot ever tecoded in football came from a 5"9 player called ronny.
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