Scoring Bias

[Phillyboi207]

Quote: Originally Posted by Nugget7211

You only look at the next criteria if the previous is "100% even/equal" (the criteria uses equal and even interchangeably) http://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/...ng_rev0816.pdf Duration and dominance only appear in the language for deciding between 10-9s and 10-8s, you still have to win the round on the actual criteria which are laid out on the first page of that document. Also, just in case people are still looking at them, the criteria on UFC.com are 6-7 years out of date and are basically irrelevant to scoring fights today.

Dominance/duration are a part of “effective” striking /grappling.

Big John also makes it clear that if a round consists of mostly grappling that the grappling exchanges should be weighed more heavily.


But i’ll just restate. Damage is #1. If damage is roughly equal you look at who was more effective on the feet or on the ground.

10-8s can be given out with ONLY dominance and duration.



11:24 of that video. Big John talks about a 10-8 occuring without damage.

[Poulpy]

If we try to do the same "tybura vs struve" fight in ufc 3, struve won easily only with his few front kick/leg kick/hook.

But 2 judge gave 30/27 for tybura who was on woobly leg because of takedown/control/short half guard punches.

In ufc 3 ground strike are 95% baby punches who count for nothing except grappling adavantage.

Double/single leg doing almost no damage, i doubt it count with your system.

[Papadoc60]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phillyboi207

Dominance/duration are a part of “effective” striking /grappling. Big John also makes it clear that if a round consists of mostly grappling that the grappling exchanges should be weighed more heavily. But i’ll just restate. Damage is #1. If damage is roughly equal you look at who was more effective on the feet or on the ground. 10-8s can be given out with ONLY dominance and duration. 11:24 of that video. Big John talks about a 10-8 occuring without damage.

By this logic if the first 4 minutes are mostly grappling and dominated by the grappler without much damage but the striker does more damage within that last minute after getting to his feet than the grappler did in 4 minutes who wins the round?

[Phillyboi207]

Quote: Originally Posted by Papadoc60

By this logic if the first 4 minutes are mostly grappling and dominated by the grappler without much damage but the striker does more damage within that last minute after getting to his feet than the grappler did in 4 minutes who wins the round?

It will depend the severity of the damage

If he almost finishes the fight he could possibly steal the round

If he just does damage but doesnt come close to a finish or hurting the grappler that much then it would go to the grappler.

Plus remember “dominance” means dominant positions. Being in guard as a position doesnt score. Grappler would need to mount, take side control, back mount ect to score. Going for subs would also help secure the round for the grappler

[GrimLeiper]

I had read that submissions aren't considered in decisions.

Whilst I'm aware submission attempts aren't on the stats, I can't help but feel a flying guillotine on the final gate edged it for me in a decision win.

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[FCB x Finlay]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phillyboi207

It will depend the severity of the damage If he almost finishes the fight he could possibly steal the round If he just does damage but doesnt come close to a finish or hurting the grappler that much then it would go to the grappler. Plus remember “dominance” means dominant positions. Being in guard as a position doesnt score. Grappler would need to mount, take side control, back mount ect to score. Going for subs would also help secure the round for the grappler

Being in closed guard isnt dominant. But postureing uo and landinh shots is seen as dominant. Same with other positions. Its more to do with forcing your oppenent to defend and not mount an attack for grappling.

[Skynet]

Quote: Originally Posted by GrimLeiper

I had read that submissions aren't considered in decisions. Whilst I'm aware submission attempts aren't on the stats, I can't help but feel a flying guillotine on the final gate edged it for me in a decision win. Sent from my HTC Desire 530 using Operation Sports mobile app

Submissions definitely count, as they do inflict decent damage. However, they're scaled by the gate you get to.

Entering subs buys you almost nothing, while sinking a sub deeper and deeper buys you increasingly more points.

[GrimLeiper]

Quote: Originally Posted by Skynet

Submissions definitely count, as they do inflict decent damage. However, they're scaled by the gate you get to. Entering subs buys you almost nothing, while sinking a sub deeper and deeper buys you increasingly more points.

That's how I thought it worked - the deeper the sub earns more "points"

Thanks for confirming.

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