after watching the last 3 videos....they really got it this year.

[ImReady77]

Those videos caused me to change my mind again. At first I was going to get 2k5 then madden now I'm getting both and sending the other one back (hopefully it's Madden I send back ). If they fix the tackling, the lob pass, the coverage, and the big runs then there's no way that Madden will be better IMO.

[wwharton]

Quote:

---

HeroOfTheDay said:
I likw ESPN football. ESPN football is good.

Somebody get me that game!

---

I wish someone would just get you a seat in the cell.

ImReady, I don't know why you'd hope Madden would get sent back. Why buy both then? Sounds like you're kinda undecided so why not rent both and then pick which one to buy?

[HeroOfTheDay]

Quote:

---

wwharton said:

Quote:

---

HeroOfTheDay said:
I likw ESPN football. ESPN football is good.

Somebody get me that game!

---

I wish someone would just get you a seat in the cell.

ImReady, I don't know why you'd hope Madden would get sent back. Why buy both then? Sounds like you're kinda undecided so why not rent both and then pick which one to buy?

---

I have been too the bighouse and I am now a changed man.

I saw things that no man should have to see, but through that darkness I found the light, and the light is ESPN football!

[wwharton]

well if you've already been then i'll leave well enough alone. you can like whichever game you want. just don't make ignorant posts for or against it or any other game.

[ImReady77]

Quote:

---

wwharton said:

Quote:

---

HeroOfTheDay said:
I likw ESPN football. ESPN football is good.

Somebody get me that game!

---

I wish someone would just get you a seat in the cell.

ImReady, I don't know why you'd hope Madden would get sent back. Why buy both then? Sounds like you're kinda undecided so why not rent both and then pick which one to buy?

---

because espn has more going for it than madden does like the franchise stuff and graphics. It's too hard to rent madden when it comes out and since I'm cool with the manager at gamestop I can return games and get full price so I won't be losing any money. plus i have a lot of store credit.

[wwharton]

ahh, lol. guess that does make perfect sense then.

[studman]

Quote:

---

because espn has more going for it than madden does like the franchise stuff and graphics. It's too hard to rent madden when it comes out and since I'm cool with the manager at gamestop I can return games and get full price so I won't be losing any money. plus i have a lot of store credit.

---

i'd be hard-pressed to believe that ESPN's franchise mode is better then Madden's. with the UFA, RFA, franchise players, signing bonuses (implemented last yr.), training camp, in-draft trades, etc.. i don't know how ESPN's could top that.

then again, i dont know as much about ESPN '05, just going off of '04 and what i know about '05, so someone plz fill me in on franchise mode '05

[ImReady77]

Quote:

---

studman said:

Quote:

---

because espn has more going for it than madden does like the franchise stuff and graphics. It's too hard to rent madden when it comes out and since I'm cool with the manager at gamestop I can return games and get full price so I won't be losing any money. plus i have a lot of store credit.

---

i'd be hard-pressed to believe that ESPN's franchise mode is better then Madden's. with the UFA, RFA, franchise players, signing bonuses (implemented last yr.), training camp, in-draft trades, etc.. i don't know how ESPN's could top that.

then again, i dont know as much about ESPN '05, just going off of '04 and what i know about '05, so someone plz fill me in on franchise mode '05

---

if you read about 2k5 you would see why I said that.