Playing this game online is....

[jplaya2023]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

Great. Again mental note: Don't play Jplaya or any of his friends.

fair enough

*makes note to play bkrich in the future in some madden*

that was just how i play 05 i play 05 different but its cool though

[NYJets]

Quote: Originally Posted by jplaya2023

sure is what u do is before the snap move the dt 50 yards down field on moss side and hit em as he try to catches the ball much fun

Please tell me that is sarcasm.

[Pared]

Haven't you guys learned by now trying to explain why playing against "cheesy" tactics and having no fun is pointless?

It's not like you're going to "convert" anyone...

[seanmac]

Quote: Originally Posted by jplaya2023

Sense when is a defense on a game a cheesy tactic and blitzing a cheezy tactic??/ you guys have logic all wrong. Theres nothnig wrong with rushing the qb and throwing the ball to a TE thas open so i really dont understand your logic there, its problably my fault though. But you asked my how i play well i tell u how i used to play that madden 04 so take notes...... (no cockyness) I used the niners cause there my boys and on 04 had decent talent surroundnig my team. I basically used TO on Kick's and Punt Returns he'll ususally get 1 or 2 returns a game. I set up my audibles on offense and defense. Depending on the defense played on me i usually no huddled cause i was in i form and they choose quarter so i ran it down the field and scored or whatever. On defense i put peterson on the opposite end of carter cause there fast and can rush the quarter back. I put Rumph and Plummer as my safeties to prevent Moss from going on sometimes i put TO on moss that worked very well i must say. i normally used a quarter defense audibled into a 4-3 so i can have my fast corners in to blitz or to cover backs like faulk holmes etc who are way 2 fast for a LB. Sometimes i would manually cover with my safety and get user picks or play MLB and spoy depending on the QB whatever it takes to win. You guys need to develop that killer instinct and get this "nice guy" image out of here and play some football Now i must ask you is that cheeese? and if so why? Why didnt EA prevent me from doing this if its cheese? Explain????????

Umm...you put TO in at corner? That has to be the most appalling thing I've ever heard of.

In any event, waste of time though this thread is, I'll get into it a bit. It's simple enough to stop someone who puts TO in at kick returner- it simply requires subbing in your entire starting defense for your special teams. That takes a good five minutes, so not only is it profoundly unrealistic, it's also rude. I won't play against anyone who makes five minutes worth of substitutions (especially when they start off by taking a team that is significantly better than mine). If you can't beat the Lions with the Eagles without compounding things by subbing out half your team, well I don't know what to say.

The simple point is this- every single one of your "tactics" would be a disaster in real life. If you put a quarter defense on the field and tried to use it as a 4-3, a team would run the ball down your throat for 7-8 yards a carry. If you ever had the gall to try and make TO play cornerback and put him on Randy Moss, it would be a one play experiment, and at the end of it Randy Moss would be in the end zone and TO would be rolling on the ground clutching his broken ankles. Whenever you use a tactic that is effective in the game but would be ineffective in reality, you are departing from any semblence of NFL football, at which point there ceases to be any need to have NFL players or NFL teams. You might as well trot out some generic reds and blues.

It's also pretty embarrassing that you drop your team because you're afraid to roll with their personnel.

[MartinDihigo]

Quote: Originally Posted by jplaya2023

Can you provide me with an official rule book on how to play a video game exactly?????? my thoughts exactly. Instead of crying and moaning about people "cheesing" you step your games up learn how to practice, if u know what play your opponent is gonna run use a lineman or tackle to cover the area and make the player throw else where. I pay $$$ for these games aint no way in hell am i gonna play the way someone "Wants me to play" for spirit of this so called "SIM play" like i said if u want SIM play go try out for the rams or some NFL team. Until then dont sit here and cry because your videogame skills are subpar Play the game like its supposed to be played. Can you provide insight to this suggestion. Ok here's a scenerio. Your the vikings in real life you play a team hmmmm lets say the cards for argument sake and they have corners hm say 5'8-5'10 and u have randy moss which is hmm lets say 6'0-6'3 in height im not sure exactly could be taller. Now wouldnt u throw it to him the majority of the time exposing a mismatch or are you gonna do other things for the "spirit of playing the game correctly" See the flaws in you guys argument P.S. to the thread starter instead of playing on PRO play on Legend or whatever ESPN highest rating is

jplay a u sound like you have no skills and tend to play some fake cheese ball

[KillRoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by jplaya2023

Sense when is a defense on a game a cheesy tactic and blitzing a cheezy tactic??/ you guys have logic all wrong. Theres nothnig wrong with rushing the qb and throwing the ball to a TE thas open so i really dont understand your logic there, its problably my fault though. But you asked my how i play well i tell u how i used to play that madden 04 so take notes...... (no cockyness) I used the niners cause there my boys and on 04 had decent talent surroundnig my team. I basically used TO on Kick's and Punt Returns he'll ususally get 1 or 2 returns a game. I set up my audibles on offense and defense. Depending on the defense played on me i usually no huddled cause i was in i form and they choose quarter so i ran it down the field and scored or whatever. On defense i put peterson on the opposite end of carter cause there fast and can rush the quarter back. I put Rumph and Plummer as my safeties to prevent Moss from going on sometimes i put TO on moss that worked very well i must say. i normally used a quarter defense audibled into a 4-3 so i can have my fast corners in to blitz or to cover backs like faulk holmes etc who are way 2 fast for a LB. Sometimes i would manually cover with my safety and get user picks or play MLB and spoy depending on the QB whatever it takes to win. You guys need to develop that killer instinct and get this "nice guy" image out of here and play some football Now i must ask you is that cheeese? and if so why? Why didnt EA prevent me from doing this if its cheese? Explain????????

haha!! I must say, your posts are funny! I figured you were one of those types that uses a quarter defence and blitzes on every play. LOL!

you see... in Madden that is a cheese tactic because the AI is not good enough when it comes to picking up the blitzes. and as a result- on passing plays you can sack the QB most of the time.

and throwing to the reciever cutting across the middle is also a cheese tactic because the reciever gets a speed bonus right after you throw the ball. and its a guranteed catch when you use that tactic. now how is that using strategy?

its obvious that you don`t understand what i mean by "exploiting gaps" in the AI. maybe the word "glitches" is something you can understand?

and killer instinct in a video game? perhaps the only game that makes me feel like I have a killer instint is Medal of Honor (PC version) now that`s some intense sh%t. but a football game that has a few major glitches??? how could anyone develope a killer instinct playing this game?

[richierich]

With the OP I feel the same way. But after copying and pasting a bunch of gamertags from here on OS I should be sending out some requests for buddy list soon (So don't reject any requests from me unless the last request is from some fine woman!!). I was playing this guy using the Ravens, hot blitzing slants every damn play, and hot blitzing rb flats...man it was real annoying. He also set Jamal lewis as the Punt returner and his starting WR's as the Kick Returners. Man talk about cheese. It's frustrating.

[Moegames]

Quote: Originally Posted by Skerik

FRUSTRATING. I played my first six online games (Pro difficulty) over the weekend and I'm now 0-6. Lost some very close games, but overall I was disappointed with the way people play the game online. Cases in point: Played the Chargers, the guy put LT back on punts and kickoffs which was ok, but then loaded up his offensive line with guys from other positions and ran the ball on every play except maybe two. Not real football.... Played the Vikings, the guy used Chris Hovan to charge up the middle on every play, thus making me put a guy in motion and snap the ball when he was in the center of the line to block Hovan AND sprint out of the pocket with McNabb to avoid being sacked on every play. He also threw nearly every ball to Moss, who continually pulled down balls in triple and quadruple coverage. Not real football.... Played the Patriots, the guy ran the shovel pass to Corey Dillon and plowed up the middle basically every other play. Not real football.... Played the Cowboys, the guy hit Terry Glenn on quick slants all game long. When I sat on the slant route, he'd hot route at the line and go deep with good success. I don't mind losing (obviously), but doesn't anyone play this game like actual football teams play? I stuck to the default roster and tried to mix up my plays instead of just doing the same "money" tactics over and over again, and I lost over and over as a result. At this point I'd rather just play against the CPU because at least they play a real game of football instead of relying on the same 2 or 3 plays over and over again. Sure there are ways to combat the cheese, but putting a guy in motion and snapping the ball with your TE in the center of the line isn't a whole lot like real football either, nor is playing a prevent defense on every play, nor is sitting in the same spot on the field to prevent the same play all game. Again, I'm not whining about the losing, I'm just frustrating that nobody employs strategy like you see on Sundays in the NFL. And in an unrelated comment, the shoulder charge seems grossly overpowered in this game. Any thoughts? If not, it felt good to vent at least....

Dont listen to what "jplaya2023" Said..obviously he's blind as a bat or one of the biggest cheesers around.... this is CHEEEEEESE all the way 100%! I feel your pain dude but there is nothing to do about this..its in every game. Best thing to do is stick to people you know to play online with or see if a board like OS has their own group of players that play together online. I know what your saying..it can get very frustrating dude and to me its not CHEESE..its called CHEATING.