MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[k_mac]

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Phillies:
Rougned Odor (Rangers)
Joey Gallo (Rangers)
Ronald Guzman (Rangers)
Nick Kingham (Pirates)


Rangers:
Cliff Lee (Phillies)
Neil Walker (Pirates)


Pirates:
Neftali Feliz (Rangers)
Jimmy Rollins (Phillies)


Reasonings:

Spoiler

-Phillies are finally starting their long overdue fire sale and in big way.


-Rangers are without Profar for the rest of the season, and this deal possibly could help them move Andrus for an OF bat in the offseason, and helps out their beat up SP.


-Pirates bullpen really needs that one more piece. They have a dominant 8-9, so add in Feliz and you go yourself looking good once you hit the 7th. Rollins helps out at SS and the Pirates are having a great year from Mercer so keeping him as he 2B is no problem. .327 AVG, 9 home runs, near .400 OBP nearing deadline.

How are the Rangers doing? If they're going out and getting Cliff Lee, it really doesn't make sense for them to sell off their closer for Walker. I get that they're without Profar, but getting rid of Odor then Andrus this offseason doesn't make sense to me. I think they'd rather have Andrus/Profar up the middle than Profar/Walker.

Seems like you're trying to do too much (and that's what I think of most 3 team trade proposals).

Lee could get more than Odor + Guzman + Gallo from Texas IMO.
Lee for Odor + Alfaro/Jackson + Gallo + Martinez if Lee is pitching well (none of those guys are A's, and Lee could easily command an A prospect.)

If the Pirates need a bullpen piece and you also want them to get Rollins, send them Rollins + Bastardo for Kingham + Jacoby Jones/Clay Holmes

Phillies:
Gary Sanchez
Slade Heathcott
Ian Clarkin


Yankees:
Chase Utley
Ryan Howard


Reasonings:

Spoiler

-Phillies continue to sell their old veterans for young pieces, they wanted more for both overall but neither Utley nor Howard are being impressive this year.


-Yankees don't have a clear DH or a 2B and this deal adds both with their lineup. They are 4 GB of the division and .5 GB of the WC.

This one's not bad, although you may want to find someone besides Clarkin, since the Yankees just drafted him and might be reluctant to give up on him. I think this one's fair as is though.

Blue Jays
Cole Hamels


Phillies:
Aaron Sanchez
Daniel Norris
DJ Davis


Reasonings:

Spoiler

-Phillies add three top tier prospects for their second left handed ace.


-Blue Jays are basically out of the division by being 8 GB but still two months left and they need a top pitcher for the years coming forward anyway, plus the WC is wide open so I see this as a why not for them.

If the Jays are out of it, I don't think they sell the farm for Hamels.. They've learned their lesson with that. Plus, Hamels could command more than that, and I think he stays in Philadelphia rebuild or not. Spreadsheet value is two mid A's and a mid B. Sanchez + Stroman + Davis, and I don't think the Jays do that.

A's:
Jeff Samardzija


Cubs:
Raul Alcantara
Michael Ynoa
Renato Nunez (?) feel need one more piece


Reasonings:

Spoiler

-A's desperately need that number 2 guy behind Gray and Shark is having a big time year and *in my chise storyline* wants to sign long-term in Oakland.


-Cubs add two solid young pitchers and a bat that is a wild card.

Honestly, I would rather deal him off to Detroit but the Tigers don't really have the need. Anyone else I can replace Nunez with?

Felt like this was getting long, so will stop right here and wait a few more days in my chise before posting more trades. All opinions are appreciated as I want the best deals possible to happen.

Okay, Samardzija wants to sign with Oakland, but does Oakland have 100+ mil that he's going to command?

I don't see Oakland as a fit, but Alcantara + Wahl + Pomeranz/Ynoa/Covey + something small like Jensen maybe?

[bwoodring9]

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Phillies owners who like Sanchez from Toronto but also like the Lee to LA deal..

Burnett + Utley for Sanchez + Jimenez from Toronto

Lee for Urais + Seager + Pederson (or whatever deal floats your boat with two of those guys) from LA

Ruiz for Jackson/Martinez + Buckel from Tex

Byrd to any other team that needs a LF or RF for either a lowish B or two high C's.

If Mike Morse isn't performing in San Fran, and they're in contention they might look at Byrd since he's relatively cheap. In that scenario:

Byrd for Blackburn/Blach + Hembree or straight up for Gary Brown (if you think you can fix him, lol, he is a B in the game)

IMO, that's maximizing your return on the players that you're getting rid of. The Lee to LA deal is almost too good to pass up, plus you're still getting Sanchez and a future catcher in Jimenez from Toronto. That, and the Texas prospects you mentioned are in there, just as a deal for Ruiz.

And as a reference, the / in the trade is an either/or. It's not all of those guys involved. I think we had some confusion with that the other day. Just making sure everyone's on the same page.

Interesting deals! Sorry I didn't get back sooner, I was busy all day yesterday watching the Phillies get no hit live haha. The Lee one seems good, I'm just wondering if that's too much of a return for him based on the fact that he's 6-6 with a 3.78 ERA as of June 15th's. Also, I'm not sure Sanchez could be gotten from Utley and Burnett because Utley is severely under-performing in my franchise. .232 7 HR 17 RBI. Burnett is currently 2-8 with a 3.83 ERA. Ruiz is currently .231 with a homer and 12 RBI. And finally, Byrd is .258 with 11 HR and 29 RBI, while Morse is .214 with 5 HR and 24 RBI in 201 ABs. The Giants also have Gary Brown in the Majors right now, hitting .223 with 1 HR and 10 RBI in 94 ABs. Just wanted to list off some of the stats, but back to some of the deals. I'm not sure Sanchez could be gotten if Utley is playing poorly like he is in my franchise, plus I honestly don't think there is anyone in Philadelphia who wants Chase Utley to leave. Like I said regarding the Lee deal, he's not putting up his usual numbers right now so I may not be able to get all of that for him.

Right now I was thinking of sending Kendrick to TOR for AJ Jimenez, and if it makes sense Byrd for Gary Brown doesn't seem bad for me at all if they'd give him up. Also looking to send Burnett to KC for someone like Angel Baez, Christian Colon, or Jorge Bonifacio, and the Royals are in contention so I was thinking of packaging him and Byrd to them (Cain is out for year) for Bubba Starling.

Thoughts?

[eF 5ive]

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Yankees can DH Soriano or Beltran if they want Ichiro, BG, and Ells in the OF. Even if they play one of the two, they have a solid bat off the bench.

Utley is an upgrade over Johnson or Roberts, but giving up three prospects for two aged players seems like a lot since neither really fill in a huge need.

I think if the Yanks are to trade they should be getting something that helps set them up for the future.

McCan will most likely head to 1B and Tex to DH when Sanchez is ready. Until them Cervelli can catch and McCan can play first when Tex needs rest.

I don't see how It helps the Yanks past this season. But I'm being a homer also.

[Totte]

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Right now I was thinking of sending Kendrick to TOR for AJ Jimenez, and if it makes sense Byrd for Gary Brown doesn't seem bad for me at all if they'd give him up.

Kendrick for Jimenez is fine. I'm assuming Pence would stay in RF with Pagan in CF and Byrd/Morse starting a timeshare in LF? Brown's expendable given Pagan's 4 year deal last offseason and they've soured on him not developing as anticipated but I'm iffy on them giving him up for Byrd. Could see it happening if Brown isn't producing and Byrd is hitting like he did IRL 2013.

Also looking to send Burnett to KC for someone like Angel Baez, Christian Colon, or Jorge Bonifacio, and the Royals are in contention so I was thinking of packaging him and Byrd to them (Cain is out for year) for Bubba Starling.

Baez or Colon could work for Burnett. Bonifacio would cost you a bit more IMO.

Byrd and Burnett for Starling? There's still some upside to Starling and it's a fair deal but I only see KC doing it if they're truly in it.

[bwoodring9]

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Kendrick for Jimenez is fine. I'm assuming Pence would stay in RF with Pagan in CF and Byrd/Morse starting a timeshare in LF? Brown's expendable given Pagan's 4 year deal last offseason and they've soured on him not developing as anticipated but I'm iffy on them giving him up for Byrd. Could see it happening if Brown isn't producing and Byrd is hitting like he did IRL 2013.



Baez or Colon could work for Burnett. Bonifacio would cost you a bit more IMO.

Byrd and Burnett for Starling? There's still some upside to Starling and it's a fair deal but I only see KC doing it if they're truly in it.

Kendrick for Kimenez deal is definitely one I'll make then! Byrd is currently hitting .254 11 HR and 29 RBI while Gary Brown in the majors is hitting .214 1 HR 10 RBI in 98 ABs, although it might not be an option as Pagan tore a finger ligament and is out for 1-2 months, plus he was only hitting .189 in 164 ABs anyway. Plus the Giants are 1..5 back in the division. Royals are currently 35-36, but that puts them only 2.5 behind the Tigers and 5.5 back of the 2nd wild card spot. Bubba is actually playing pretty well in AA for them so I don't think they'd move him if he is starting to heat up again. I'll probably target a Colon for Burnett deal.

[k_mac]

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Interesting deals! Sorry I didn't get back sooner, I was busy all day yesterday watching the Phillies get no hit live haha. The Lee one seems good, I'm just wondering if that's too much of a return for him based on the fact that he's 6-6 with a 3.78 ERA as of June 15th's. Also, I'm not sure Sanchez could be gotten from Utley and Burnett because Utley is severely under-performing in my franchise. .232 7 HR 17 RBI. Burnett is currently 2-8 with a 3.83 ERA. Ruiz is currently .231 with a homer and 12 RBI. And finally, Byrd is .258 with 11 HR and 29 RBI, while Morse is .214 with 5 HR and 24 RBI in 201 ABs. The Giants also have Gary Brown in the Majors right now, hitting .223 with 1 HR and 10 RBI in 94 ABs. Just wanted to list off some of the stats, but back to some of the deals. I'm not sure Sanchez could be gotten if Utley is playing poorly like he is in my franchise, plus I honestly don't think there is anyone in Philadelphia who wants Chase Utley to leave. Like I said regarding the Lee deal, he's not putting up his usual numbers right now so I may not be able to get all of that for him.

Right now I was thinking of sending Kendrick to TOR for AJ Jimenez, and if it makes sense Byrd for Gary Brown doesn't seem bad for me at all if they'd give him up. Also looking to send Burnett to KC for someone like Angel Baez, Christian Colon, or Jorge Bonifacio, and the Royals are in contention so I was thinking of packaging him and Byrd to them (Cain is out for year) for Bubba Starling.

Thoughts?

I actually read an article yesterday that had Amaro saying that a Chase Utley deal isn't going to happen. I don't understand that, but whatever. Like I said, I've already shipped him off in my franchise. If the Phillies had a competent GM, Utley would be shopped by the deadline (unless the Phillies were in first or very close the NL East lead).

Since Utley isn't playing great, I don't know what his value would drop to. I know that some Blue Jays fans aren't crazy about Sanchez. AC thinks he's going to blow up, so if Sanchez isn't playing well in your franchise it could happen. Although, since he's an A in the game, I doubt he's playing that badly and his stats are probably rising, so I agree with you that may be out of the question. You could still probably pick up a high B and a high/mid C for him though if he goes to a team that really needs him.

If the Yankees are contending, you could probably get Sanchez/Clarkin + Williams, because even a slumping Utley is better than Brian Roberts. This could also interfere with you getting Jimenez from Toronto, because why would you need both catching prospects?

Another option would be the Giants if Marco Scutaro is playing badly, or regressing (he's doing both in my franchise). You could get Escobar/Mejia + Blackburn for Utley.

If you're content with Jimenez from Toronto, him straight up for Kendrick is fair. I'm holding onto Kendrick to eat innings, because I really don't want to call up guys like Biddle just yet. If you trade Lee + Burnett + Kendrick, your rotation would be Hamels, Hernandez, Pettibone, Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez (if you're saying that he's not on the DL in your franchise) and Ethan Martin. I guess those guys could eat innings, but I actually enjoy pitching with Kendrick.

The Royals are an interesting team, since they have an injury and are in contention.

Byrd for Colon + Baez
Burnett for Starling or Bonifacio.

Baez and Colon are both high C's, ad Starling and Bonifacio are low B's. If you go in with the mindset that two high C's are equal to a low B, it's not out of the question that you can get either for Byrd. So, if you like Starling and Bonifacio, it's not out of the question to do Bryd + Burnett for Bonifacio + Starling.

With that being said, I would rather have that Byrd deal than getting Gary Brown back from the Giants. Brown is older and rated lower than Starling in the game.

How is Howard doing? He could have some decent value if he's not playing horrible (two low B's).

Assuming he's playing well, any team in need of a DH could take him on. He only makes 2mil a year in the game, so that's not too bad.

Oakland for Michael Ynoa + Dylan Covey
Cleveland for (pick two) Cody Anderson/Luis Lugo/Mitch Brown
Tampa for Colome + Romero
New York for Mitchell + Betances/Banuelos

Cliff Lee, not performing great could probably still get you Pederson + Lee + Reed, which isn't as good as Urias + Pederson + Seager, but still good value.

No idea about Ruiz, maybe to Texas for just one of those guys that I mentioned instead of two. Unless Soto or JPA are playing good (lol, just kidding, they wont be).

[bwoodring9]

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I actually read an article yesterday that had Amaro saying that a Chase Utley deal isn't going to happen. I don't understand that, but whatever. Like I said, I've already shipped him off in my franchise. If the Phillies had a competent GM, Utley would be shopped by the deadline (unless the Phillies were in first or very close the NL East lead).

Since Utley isn't playing great, I don't know what his value would drop to. I know that some Blue Jays fans aren't crazy about Sanchez. AC thinks he's going to blow up, so if Sanchez isn't playing well in your franchise it could happen. Although, since he's an A in the game, I doubt he's playing that badly and his stats are probably rising, so I agree with you that may be out of the question. You could still probably pick up a high B and a high/mid C for him though if he goes to a team that really needs him.

If the Yankees are contending, you could probably get Sanchez/Clarkin + Williams, because even a slumping Utley is better than Brian Roberts. This could also interfere with you getting Jimenez from Toronto, because why would you need both catching prospects?

Another option would be the Giants if Marco Scutaro is playing badly, or regressing (he's doing both in my franchise). You could get Escobar/Mejia + Blackburn for Utley.

If you're content with Jimenez from Toronto, him straight up for Kendrick is fair. I'm holding onto Kendrick to eat innings, because I really don't want to call up guys like Biddle just yet. If you trade Lee + Burnett + Kendrick, your rotation would be Hamels, Hernandez, Pettibone, Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez (if you're saying that he's not on the DL in your franchise) and Ethan Martin. I guess those guys could eat innings, but I actually enjoy pitching with Kendrick.

The Royals are an interesting team, since they have an injury and are in contention.

Byrd for Colon + Baez
Burnett for Starling or Bonifacio.

Baez and Colon are both high C's, ad Starling and Bonifacio are low B's. If you go in with the mindset that two high C's are equal to a low B, it's not out of the question that you can get either for Byrd. So, if you like Starling and Bonifacio, it's not out of the question to do Bryd + Burnett for Bonifacio + Starling.

With that being said, I would rather have that Byrd deal than getting Gary Brown back from the Giants. Brown is older and rated lower than Starling in the game.

How is Howard doing? He could have some decent value if he's not playing horrible (two low B's).

Assuming he's playing well, any team in need of a DH could take him on. He only makes 2mil a year in the game, so that's not too bad.

Oakland for Michael Ynoa + Dylan Covey
Cleveland for (pick two) Cody Anderson/Luis Lugo/Mitch Brown
Tampa for Colome + Romero
New York for Mitchell + Betances/Banuelos

Cliff Lee, not performing great could probably still get you Pederson + Lee + Reed, which isn't as good as Urias + Pederson + Seager, but still good value.

No idea about Ruiz, maybe to Texas for just one of those guys that I mentioned instead of two. Unless Soto or JPA are playing good (lol, just kidding, they wont be).

Thanks for all of the help, it's very much appreciated! I had Alfredo Gonzalez on the DL for the first 2 months of the season, as in real life I think he's starting small rehab starts, but I don't think it's likely he'll appear in the majors this year so I might keep him in Class A for the year. I'd probably make my rotation (in no particular order): Hamels, Pettibone, Roberto Hernandez, Ethan Martin, and then maybe either sign a veteran for a year or call up Biddle. Howard is a disaster this year hitting .168 with 9 HR and 17 RBIs. Scutaro is hitting around .280 and Kelly Johnson/Roberts are playing well in NYY so IDK if those teams are options. For Aaron Sanchez, it looks like he just got called up to AAA, and has a 1-1 record with 17 IP, an ERA of 5.29, a WHIP of 1.53 and 29 K's vs 9 BBs. His AA stats are stellar though with a 2.24 ERA and 90 K's vs 23 BBs in 72.1 IP. I am worried about the Royals staying in contention, as they are below .500 and I feel like the Tigers will pull away, however that might entice them to make a move to bolster their rotation, so maybe getting Burnett for Colon like I was thinking earlier. Like I said, with Bubba heating up in the minors it may give them back the hope that he can contribute, and they may not be as willing to move him. Therefore, I'm not really sure about Byrd.

[KingFry]

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Thanks for all of the help, it's very much appreciated! I had Alfredo Gonzalez on the DL for the first 2 months of the season, as in real life I think he's starting small rehab starts, but I don't think it's likely he'll appear in the majors this year so I might keep him in Class A for the year. I'd probably make my rotation (in no particular order): Hamels, Pettibone, Roberto Hernandez, Ethan Martin, and then maybe either sign a veteran for a year or call up Biddle. Howard is a disaster this year hitting .168 with 9 HR and 17 RBIs. Scutaro is hitting around .280 and Kelly Johnson/Roberts are playing well in NYY so IDK if those teams are options. For Aaron Sanchez, it looks like he just got called up to AAA, and has a 1-1 record with 17 IP, an ERA of 5.29, a WHIP of 1.53 and 29 K's vs 9 BBs. His AA stats are stellar though with a 2.24 ERA and 90 K's vs 23 BBs in 72.1 IP. I am worried about the Royals staying in contention, as they are below .500 and I feel like the Tigers will pull away, however that might entice them to make a move to bolster their rotation, so maybe getting Burnett for Colon like I was thinking earlier. Like I said, with Bubba heating up in the minors it may give them back the hope that he can contribute, and they may not be as willing to move him. Therefore, I'm not really sure about Byrd.

Sanchez literally had those exact same stats! I played an AAA game with him for fun and dominated. Played a few more MLB games after and his ERA had dropped a point through two games.... With Hamels hurt and Burnett/Lee gone, I called him up and he has a 2 ERA through two games with around a 9 K/9... I was wowed. I think any of those KC ideas given sound pretty realistic and fair.

[bwoodring9]

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Sanchez literally had those exact same stats! I played an AAA game with him for fun and dominated. Played a few more MLB games after and his ERA had dropped a point through two games.... With Hamels hurt and Burnett/Lee gone, I called him up and he has a 2 ERA through two games with around a 9 K/9... I was wowed. I think any of those KC ideas given sound pretty realistic and fair.

Glad to see he's helping you! It's cool to see how many different ways a rebuild can be done! I think I'm leaning towards Burnett to KC for Colon which I think is probably the most reasonable unless they see him as their future 2nd baseman, and they might I'm not sure. Kendrick is going to TOR for Jimenez, and I'm still trying to figure out what to do with Byrd.

[k_mac]

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Thanks for all of the help, it's very much appreciated! I had Alfredo Gonzalez on the DL for the first 2 months of the season, as in real life I think he's starting small rehab starts, but I don't think it's likely he'll appear in the majors this year so I might keep him in Class A for the year. I'd probably make my rotation (in no particular order): Hamels, Pettibone, Roberto Hernandez, Ethan Martin, and then maybe either sign a veteran for a year or call up Biddle. Howard is a disaster this year hitting .168 with 9 HR and 17 RBIs. Scutaro is hitting around .280 and Kelly Johnson/Roberts are playing well in NYY so IDK if those teams are options. For Aaron Sanchez, it looks like he just got called up to AAA, and has a 1-1 record with 17 IP, an ERA of 5.29, a WHIP of 1.53 and 29 K's vs 9 BBs. His AA stats are stellar though with a 2.24 ERA and 90 K's vs 23 BBs in 72.1 IP. I am worried about the Royals staying in contention, as they are below .500 and I feel like the Tigers will pull away, however that might entice them to make a move to bolster their rotation, so maybe getting Burnett for Colon like I was thinking earlier. Like I said, with Bubba heating up in the minors it may give them back the hope that he can contribute, and they may not be as willing to move him. Therefore, I'm not really sure about Byrd.

Glad to see he's helping you! It's cool to see how many different ways a rebuild can be done! I think I'm leaning towards Burnett to KC for Colon which I think is probably the most reasonable unless they see him as their future 2nd baseman, and they might I'm not sure. Kendrick is going to TOR for Jimenez, and I'm still trying to figure out what to do with Byrd.

No problem at all man. Since I'm running a Phillies franchise too, it's nice to see what others are doing with theirs.

I agree though, SF and NYY probably aren't landing spots for Utley since their guys are playing good. I'd also assume Howard also has little value with those stats. I've actually played decently with Howard in mine, so I thought it was worth a shot.

If you really want to deal Utley though, I think the move that makes the most sense is to Toronto, just not for Sanchez. You can probably get a high B + high C. Nay or Norris + a smaller piece maybe? You'd have to ask a Jays fan for that one.

I think you can get more than Colon for Burnett though. Colon + Baez doesn't sound bad, although Bonifacio may be a bit of a stretch. Not sure what you mean by contribute with Starling though. I don't think he contributes at all this year at the major league level. I don't think his ratings in the game warrant a callup, and he's only 21. I do think that since he's playing good, they wouldn't want to move him, since he could contribute in coming years (which is probably what you meant). I'd still send them Byrd though. If you want Bonifacio, send them a low C pitching prospect or one of your many C outfield prospects if you don't think the straight up deal is fair. Collier or someone like that should work.

[RyanMan82]

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I'm the Rays in 2015, and I was looking to trade for Dayan Viciedo. The trade block says they're looking for a RP or C, although it looks like they could use a SP as well. What would I have to add onto Alex Cobb (or is that enough) to swing him. My MLB roster goes as: SP) Price, Moore, Hellickson, Archer, Cobb, Cesar Ramos, Odorizzi, Erik Bedard. RP) Jake McGee, Yusmeiro Petit, Juan Oviedo. CP) Balfour. C) Wilin Rosario, Jose Molina. 1B) Loney, Matt Paxton, Jimmy Irvin. 2B) Gabriel Reyna. 3B) Longoria. SS) Abraham Winston. LF) Joyce. CF) Jennings, Jackie Bradley Jr. RF) Myers, Marlon Byrd.

I'm only 10 games in so I won't bother posting their stats.

[Bard]

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How are the Rangers doing? If they're going out and getting Cliff Lee, it really doesn't make sense for them to sell off their closer for Walker. I get that they're without Profar, but getting rid of Odor then Andrus this offseason doesn't make sense to me. I think they'd rather have Andrus/Profar up the middle than Profar/Walker.

Seems like you're trying to do too much (and that's what I think of most 3 team trade proposals).

Lee could get more than Odor + Guzman + Gallo from Texas IMO.
Lee for Odor + Alfaro/Jackson + Gallo + Martinez if Lee is pitching well (none of those guys are A's, and Lee could easily command an A prospect.)

If the Pirates need a bullpen piece and you also want them to get Rollins, send them Rollins + Bastardo for Kingham + Jacoby Jones/Clay Holmes



This one's not bad, although you may want to find someone besides Clarkin, since the Yankees just drafted him and might be reluctant to give up on him. I think this one's fair as is though.



If the Jays are out of it, I don't think they sell the farm for Hamels.. They've learned their lesson with that. Plus, Hamels could command more than that, and I think he stays in Philadelphia rebuild or not. Spreadsheet value is two mid A's and a mid B. Sanchez + Stroman + Davis, and I don't think the Jays do that.



Okay, Samardzija wants to sign with Oakland, but does Oakland have 100+ mil that he's going to command?

I don't see Oakland as a fit, but Alcantara + Wahl + Pomeranz/Ynoa/Covey + something small like Jensen maybe?

Thanks for the response.


So...


Phillies:
Odor
Jackson
Gallo
Martinez


Rangers:
Lee


Rangers are there, few games back but easily in contention. Not on atm.


Phillies:
Kingham
Jones


Pirates:
Bastardo
Rollins


then though, Walker is pretty available now.


Nova instead of Clarkin perhaps? He has an ERA above 4.50 I believe.


Hamels doesn't really HAVE to move, just would have been an interesting move.


What I was thinking on Shark as well actually, just couldn't come up with much more. Have a deal with Detroit I could do?

[bwoodring9]

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I'm the Rays in 2015, and I was looking to trade for Dayan Viciedo. The trade block says they're looking for a RP or C, although it looks like they could use a SP as well. What would I have to add onto Alex Cobb (or is that enough) to swing him. My MLB roster goes as: SP) Price, Moore, Hellickson, Archer, Cobb, Cesar Ramos, Odorizzi, Erik Bedard. RP) Jake McGee, Yusmeiro Petit, Juan Oviedo. CP) Balfour. C) Wilin Rosario, Jose Molina. 1B) Loney, Matt Paxton, Jimmy Irvin. 2B) Gabriel Reyna. 3B) Longoria. SS) Abraham Winston. LF) Joyce. CF) Jennings, Jackie Bradley Jr. RF) Myers, Marlon Byrd.

I'm only 10 games in so I won't bother posting their stats.

I'd think Cobb would be enough, especially if they struggled last year and wanted to continue adding young pieces for their rebuild.

[Coper3000]

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Man, I really like Cliff Lee as much as the next, but that is a lot to give up for him. I still don't think they trade Gallo at all. Also, with Andrus locked up at SS, and Odor playing really good at 2B, I am starting to think that Profar might just be the odd man out in the middle infield. I think if I were a Rangers Owner that I would look to package Profar+ (at SS, as opposed to 2B, where is value is higher) for a controllable pitcher.

It's not that I don't think Lee is very, very good, and worth top prospects. It would just be hard to swallow shipping out 2 top pitchers, and 2 top hitters - 2 of which are already in the Show, and 2 which are very close. I would be more inclined to trading a lot of younger, 18 or 19 year olds - like Brinson, Guzman, and/or Demeritte.

[bwoodring9]

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No problem at all man. Since I'm running a Phillies franchise too, it's nice to see what others are doing with theirs.

I agree though, SF and NYY probably aren't landing spots for Utley since their guys are playing good. I'd also assume Howard also has little value with those stats. I've actually played decently with Howard in mine, so I thought it was worth a shot.

If you really want to deal Utley though, I think the move that makes the most sense is to Toronto, just not for Sanchez. You can probably get a high B + high C. Nay or Norris + a smaller piece maybe? You'd have to ask a Jays fan for that one.

I think you can get more than Colon for Burnett though. Colon + Baez doesn't sound bad, although Bonifacio may be a bit of a stretch. Not sure what you mean by contribute with Starling though. I don't think he contributes at all this year at the major league level. I don't think his ratings in the game warrant a callup, and he's only 21. I do think that since he's playing good, they wouldn't want to move him, since he could contribute in coming years (which is probably what you meant). I'd still send them Byrd though. If you want Bonifacio, send them a low C pitching prospect or one of your many C outfield prospects if you don't think the straight up deal is fair. Collier or someone like that should work.

Yeah sorry, contribute probably wasn't the smartest word choice, but yeah like you said I don't think they move Bubba if he got things going again in the minors. Add much as it could help my team I want to do everything I can to hold into Utley, dealt him last year in my franchise and I didn't like doing it. I don't really think I want jorge bonifacio just a name I threw out, so I think with the royals I'll just do a Burnett for colon and maybe another low c prospect, but I might wait a bit to do it to see if the royals hang in contention longer.
Still not really sure what to do with Byrd, but I definitely want to move him.