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  • CameRoN0407
    It's a New England Thing
    • Oct 2012
    • 3328

    #4261
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by AC
    93 overall wow that's terrible oh man that's only 94% of possible OVR points

    Lol @ ba

    Any contract Trout is on is worth it idc
    It means he's declining from his 99 overall possessed at age 22.

    That's the only stat we could use at this point in time.

    Not if he's declining 6 overall points from 7 years. Not to count that the Show regresses rapidly at a particular age.
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    • kmoser
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      • Jul 2012
      • 1398

      #4262
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by CameRoN0407
      It means he's declining from his 99 overall possessed at age 22.



      That's the only stat we could use at this point in time.



      Not if he's declining 6 overall points from 7 years. Not to count that the Show regresses rapidly at a particular age.

      What do you think his value is them? He will probably drop to a 90 by then end of the year, 88 at the most.


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      • CameRoN0407
        It's a New England Thing
        • Oct 2012
        • 3328

        #4263
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by kmoser
        What do you think his value is them? He will probably drop to a 90 by then end of the year, 88 at the most.


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        Wow, that's a little to excessive. He'll probably drop to a 92 at most. I still say A, high B, high B, low B
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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #4264
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Jr.
          He's regressing. You can't compare him to the player he is in real life. He's not the same in the game.
          I see that, but he's still a high quality stud. He's still Mike Trout. A 93 overall is nothing to scoff at and without the data we need to analyze we have to assume he's at least similar.
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          • CameRoN0407
            It's a New England Thing
            • Oct 2012
            • 3328

            #4265
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by AC
            I see that, but he's still a high quality stud. He's still Mike Trout. A 93 overall is nothing to scoff at and without the data we need to analyze we have to assume he's at least similar.
            It's not nothing to scoff at, It's like an older version of Goldschmidt now, with a lower average.
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            • Jr.
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              • Feb 2003
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              #4266
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by AC
              I see that, but he's still a high quality stud. He's still Mike Trout. A 93 overall is nothing to scoff at and without the data we need to analyze we have to assume he's at least similar.
              I'm just offering my opinion. I wouldn't trade 2 90+ OVR players in their prime for him when he's starting to regress and has a big contract.

              He can still bring in a nice haul of prospects, though
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              • kmoser
                MVP
                • Jul 2012
                • 1398

                #4267
                MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by AC
                I see that, but he's still a high quality stud. He's still Mike Trout. A 93 overall is nothing to scoff at and without the data we need to analyze we have to assume he's at least similar.

                His speed has gone down and his contact and power attributes have only gone down a few. His speed is still a 91 or 92. Still a threat on the base baths. He's only 30. I think MLBTS regression system is still a bit excessive. When Jose Fernandez was 32 his Ovr was in the high 70s and same thing with Paul Goldy


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                • WaitTilNextYear
                  Go Cubs Go
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16830

                  #4268
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by AC
                  Castro's got a -3.7 UZR/150 in a stable number of innings. I dunno if I'd call that fielding his position, but I haven't watched a ton of Arismendy.
                  Aaaaaand this is why no one really trusts defensive metrics farther than they can throw their computer. Sad that state of the art can be so wrong at times.
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                  • Berserker2020
                    Rookie
                    • May 2012
                    • 161

                    #4269
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by CameRoN0407
                    Probably a mid A, high B, high B



                    Man, as a fellow Red Sox fan, I do not agree with trading Lester. But, if you insist, LAD and SEA do certainly not need pitching. The Angels do, but you probably won't get much back. The Giants aren't in a severe need for pitching with MadBum, Cain, and Timmeh, but could net us a nice package. Same with Arizona. How's Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Houston (silly question but had to ask because Houston was 2nd in the AL West in one of my franchises) doing? Also, how is Lester doing?
                    I'm not completely set on trading him but just wanted to find out what kind of package I could get in return and possibly look to resign him during free agency. Pittsburgh is in the hunt but Minnesota & Houston are not close. Also saw that Colorado & A's could be in. Lester is currently 9-5 with an era around 2.9.
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                    • CameRoN0407
                      It's a New England Thing
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3328

                      #4270
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Berserker2020
                      I'm not completely set on trading him but just wanted to find out what kind of package I could get in return and possibly look to resign him during free agency. Pittsburgh is in the hunt but Minnesota & Houston are not close. Also saw that Colorado & A's could be in. Lester is currently 9-5 with an era around 2.9.
                      Well he's worth a high B, and mid B. So that can correlate to a low-mid A IMO

                      Alright:

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                      ARI: Trahan (?), if High B add a mid B

                      PIT: Josh Bell(?)

                      COL: David Dahl(?)

                      OAK: Matt Olson

                      I'm not near my PS4, so just tell me the potentials of the players with question marks please.
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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
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                        #4271
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                        Aaaaaand this is why no one really trusts defensive metrics farther than they can throw their computer. Sad that state of the art can be so wrong at times.
                        Do you have specific reasons for not liking defensive metrics?
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                        • rovert22044
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 2509

                          #4272
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Alright guys. Going to be starting my Astros franchise here soon. First thing I want to do is get rid of Chris Carter. One player I'm interested in is Phillies 1B Darin Ruf. What kind of trades do you see happening here? I'm not sure if I should offer them more than that or they should offer me more (don't know too much on Ruf). I appreciate the responses.
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                          • jdiaz891
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 148

                            #4273
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Im the Mets at the all star break. Theres teams in my franchise that are wayyyyy out of it and i feel like they should start selling.

                            Philles are 17.5 gb
                            Reds, Pirates, Cubs are over 12 gb
                            Padres, Rockies, Giants are over 14gb
                            Orioles and Yankees are over 10gb
                            White Sox, Indians are over 13 gb

                            Any trade ideas?? looking for realism and fairness

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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14951

                              #4274
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by jdiaz891
                              Im the Mets at the all star break. Theres teams in my franchise that are wayyyyy out of it and i feel like they should start selling.

                              Philles are 17.5 gb
                              Reds, Pirates, Cubs are over 12 gb
                              Padres, Rockies, Giants are over 14gb
                              Orioles and Yankees are over 10gb
                              White Sox, Indians are over 13 gb

                              Any trade ideas?? looking for realism and fairness
                              Players that could be dealt:

                              Lee, Rollins, Utley, Hamels, Byrd, Papelbon
                              Latos, Cueto, Bruce, Phillips, Liriano, Martin, Jackson, Wood, Samardzija, Schierholtz
                              Kennedy, Headley, Quentin, Grandal, anyone not named Cashner generally, CarGo, De La Rosa, Blackman, Pablo, Lincecum
                              Cruz, Reimold, a starting pitcher or two, Hardy, CC, Teixeira
                              De Aza, Viciedo, Gillaspie, Beckham, Alexei, Swisher, Masterson, Bourn
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                              • jdiaz891
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 148

                                #4275
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by AC
                                Players that could be dealt:

                                Lee, Rollins, Utley, Hamels, Byrd, Papelbon
                                Latos, Cueto, Bruce, Phillips, Liriano, Martin, Jackson, Wood, Samardzija, Schierholtz
                                Kennedy, Headley, Quentin, Grandal, anyone not named Cashner generally, CarGo, De La Rosa, Blackman, Pablo, Lincecum
                                Cruz, Reimold, a starting pitcher or two, Hardy, CC, Teixeira
                                De Aza, Viciedo, Gillaspie, Beckham, Alexei, Swisher, Masterson, Bourn
                                i feel like out of the whole list Lee Byrd Papelbon Samardzija headley and maybe jackson are on there way out thats just me tho oh yea and hardy.

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