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  • Dirty_D_
    Rookie
    • Nov 2014
    • 230

    #1546
    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by AC
    You, and most people itt need to start thinking about whether or not they would do this trade if they were on the other side of it. That's the only way to come up with fair trades.
    What do you think the fair trade would be to get Harvey to Boston ?!?

    I would be trading Harvey.
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    • MindBeats
      Rookie
      • Mar 2012
      • 365

      #1547
      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Dirty_D_
      I've been looking at trying to deal Harvey in my chise as the Mets do you have names ???
      I was thinking something like Espinoza, Eduardo Rodriguez and maybe Benitendi. But at this point I dunno, as I said, I'm not very good with trades. That's why I come here, I like to get you guise's insight. I'm kinda new to baseball. Only been watching it for about 5 years since I'm from Europe and I'm only now starting to look at trades and how they make sense. But obviously I still got a lot to learn
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      • Dirty_D_
        Rookie
        • Nov 2014
        • 230

        #1548
        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by MindBeats
        I was thinking something like Espinoza, Eduardo Rodriguez and maybe Benitendi. But at this point I dunno, as I said, I'm not very good with trades. That's why I come here, I like to get you guise's insight. I'm kinda new to baseball. Only been watching it for about 5 years since I'm from Europe and I'm only now starting to look at trades and how they make sense. But obviously I still got a lot to learn
        I would need more. Much more for you guys to get Harvey. As a true Met fan our system is thin with a lot of maybe talent and no guys that have spots at the show. Conforto is the only guy that has paned out that's not a pitcher. So trading Havery should get us some of those guys with a lot of upside. Just IMO
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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #1549
          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

          That's a lot better. I find the best trades hurt a bit. I think that's completely fine value wise, but I don't know if the Mets would do it philosophically. I think they'd rather target a young hitter. Think like one of these guys.

          http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...0637&players=0

          That should have a filter on it for players with less than 5 WAR. So guys like Yelich, Joc, Polanco, maybe Odor, etc. I'm not sure who the Sox have like that, although if JBJ is legit then maybe thee's a fit. Mookie is too much, I wouldn't deal him for Harvey honestly. Xander might work, actually, but he might be a bit much.
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          • MindBeats
            Rookie
            • Mar 2012
            • 365

            #1550
            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by AC
            That's a lot better. I find the best trades hurt a bit. I think that's completely fine value wise, but I don't know if the Mets would do it philosophically. I think they'd rather target a young hitter. Think like one of these guys.

            http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...0637&players=0

            That should have a filter on it for players with less than 5 WAR. So guys like Yelich, Joc, Polanco, maybe Odor, etc. I'm not sure who the Sox have like that, although if JBJ is legit then maybe thee's a fit. Mookie is too much, I wouldn't deal him for Harvey honestly. Xander might work, actually, but he might be a bit much.
            Yeah I was actually thinking JBJ. So what would the trade be?
            Harvey for JBJ and the A's?
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            Soccer (It's football, not soccer!!): SL Benfica
            Baseball: Oakland A's/ San Francisco Giants
            Football: San Francisco 49ers

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            • AC
              Win the East
              • Sep 2010
              • 14951

              #1551
              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

              Well you won't be able to make that yet. We don't really know if JBJ can sustain any of this. Would have to wait until the offseason more than likely. If it was now it'd probably be JBJ + Benintendi etc
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              • Dirty_D_
                Rookie
                • Nov 2014
                • 230

                #1552
                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by AC
                That's a lot better. I find the best trades hurt a bit. I think that's completely fine value wise, but I don't know if the Mets would do it philosophically. I think they'd rather target a young hitter. Think like one of these guys.

                http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...0637&players=0

                That should have a filter on it for players with less than 5 WAR. So guys like Yelich, Joc, Polanco, maybe Odor, etc. I'm not sure who the Sox have like that, although if JBJ is legit then maybe thee's a fit. Mookie is too much, I wouldn't deal him for Harvey honestly. Xander might work, actually, but he might be a bit much.
                Originally posted by MindBeats
                Yeah I was actually thinking JBJ. So what would the trade be?
                Harvey for JBJ and the A's?

                What you guys think about something like this !?

                Mets get

                Jackie Bradley Jr
                Yoan Moncada
                Anderson Espinoza

                Red Sox get

                Matt Harvey
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                • MindBeats
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 365

                  #1553
                  Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Dirty_D_
                  What you guys think about something like this !?

                  Mets get

                  Jackie Bradley Jr
                  Yoan Moncada
                  Anderson Espinoza

                  Red Sox get

                  Matt Harvey
                  I'd prefer to switch Moncada with Benintendi or Devers, but other than that looks good. But let's see what AC or the others say
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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #1554
                    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                    If they end up trading him that probably works. I could legit see the Sox losing that trade so it's probably fair.

                    I'm still not sold Harvey gets traded, but if someone in here wants him that bad I think I'm at the point I could reasonably see it. Actually, let me make one change.

                    Mets get

                    Jackie Bradley Jr
                    Yoan Moncada
                    Anderson Espinoza

                    Red Sox get

                    Matt Harvey
                    Curtis Granderson
                    Logan Verrett

                    I think that works, although I still think it'd probably be Boogers going the other way. Seems like kind of a natural fit with the Mets not having a real SS. Just kinda complicated with Bogaerts doing this whole inflated BABIP act over 2 years.
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                    • MindBeats
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 365

                      #1555
                      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by AC
                      If they end up trading him that probably works. I could legit see the Sox losing that trade so it's probably fair.

                      I'm still not sold Harvey gets traded, but if someone in here wants him that bad I think I'm at the point I could reasonably see it. Actually, let me make one change.

                      Mets get

                      Jackie Bradley Jr
                      Yoan Moncada
                      Anderson Espinoza

                      Red Sox get

                      Matt Harvey
                      Curtis Granderson
                      Logan Verrett

                      I think that works, although I still think it'd probably be Boogers going the other way. Seems like kind of a natural fit with the Mets not having a real SS. Just kinda complicated with Bogaerts doing this whole inflated BABIP act over 2 years.
                      This trade looks good. At least I'm willing to do it. Thanks for the patient help
                      My teams:

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                      Baseball: Oakland A's/ San Francisco Giants
                      Football: San Francisco 49ers

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                      • Dirty_D_
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 230

                        #1556
                        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by AC
                        If they end up trading him that probably works. I could legit see the Sox losing that trade so it's probably fair.

                        I'm still not sold Harvey gets traded, but if someone in here wants him that bad I think I'm at the point I could reasonably see it. Actually, let me make one change.

                        Mets get

                        Jackie Bradley Jr
                        Yoan Moncada
                        Anderson Espinoza

                        Red Sox get

                        Matt Harvey
                        Curtis Granderson
                        Logan Verrett

                        I think that works, although I still think it'd probably be Boogers going the other way. Seems like kind of a natural fit with the Mets not having a real SS. Just kinda complicated with Bogaerts doing this whole inflated BABIP act over 2 years.

                        I will be making this trade in the offseason.
                        Last edited by Dirty_D_; 05-19-2016, 09:34 PM.
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                        • BlueJays09
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 2553

                          #1557
                          MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                          I am approaching the end of season 1 and playoffs are around the corner. I am just looking at some players futures with my team and Devon Travis stands out.

                          He missed the first month and a half and since his return he hasn't been great. He is hitting .254 with 5 homers and 21 RBI. This last month has been much better as before that he was down to .231 with no homers lol. September he has found his stroke again. Obviously his playoff performance will have a better indicator of his value but what could I get for him In the offseason?

                          Also, I want to move Kevin Pillar. He is batting .262 with 4 homers, 19 RBI and 14 steals with his normal top defence. I have Alford and Dwight smith impressing and will likely go to them next year. As for 2b I will look to FA or use the hot Zack Walters full time.

                          I could deal both as a package or separate. I could also add guys like Jesse Chavez, JA Happ, or Drew Hutchinson for an upgrade. I would be looking for either a nice starter, good pen option or a bat upgrade (to replace Bautista or EE). If that isn't plausible I will just take some decent prospects to rebuild my farm.

                          This deal would be made during the offseason of course and there haven't been many deals this year so most rosters remain the same. I am looking to make 1 bigger deal or 2 smaller deals this offseason.

                          Thanks!


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                          • pootytang
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 116

                            #1558
                            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by AC
                            Pineda ~= Smyly > Odo > Cobb
                            This is ludicrous to me.

                            Odorizzi war 2015- 3.6
                            Pineda war 2015- 1.7

                            Cobb was worth 4 wins each of the last two seasons he pitched, his value is at an all time low because of TJ but Pineda has never in his career pitched as well as Alex Cobb.

                            Smyly has the highest potential of all these guys but is on a 2.8m contract with less team control than Odo and has never produced like Cobb or Odo. He's a better, younger, cheaper, Michael Pineda with more potential.

                            Odorizzi>Smyly>Pineda>Cobb

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                            • MindBeats
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 365

                              #1559
                              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                              What does an A prospect along with Porcello (83ovr 2.60ERA 0.83WHIP) and Sandoval get me in terms of Outfielders? What team would accept a trade like that and for what kind of player.
                              This trade is really to get rid of Sandoval cuz I need the cap space, but I'm adding an A and a pitcher to just get a decent player in return.
                              But you let me know please.
                              Thanks
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                              Baseball: Oakland A's/ San Francisco Giants
                              Football: San Francisco 49ers

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                              • GamecocksLaw17
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 1503

                                #1560
                                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by pootytang
                                This is ludicrous to me.

                                Odorizzi war 2015- 3.6
                                Pineda war 2015- 1.7

                                Cobb was worth 4 wins each of the last two seasons he pitched, his value is at an all time low because of TJ but Pineda has never in his career pitched as well as Alex Cobb.

                                Smyly has the highest potential of all these guys but is on a 2.8m contract with less team control than Odo and has never produced like Cobb or Odo. He's a better, younger, cheaper, Michael Pineda with more potential.

                                Odorizzi>Smyly>Pineda>Cobb
                                Pineda had a 3.5 WAR last season and Odorizzi had a 2.9 so that is a start to crush that. Pineda is 27 as opposed to the other two being 26 so we really can't make age an issue. ERA and wins don't help us, we have to look at SIERA and FIP.

                                Pineda: SIERA- 3.09 FIP- 3.34 xFIP- 2.95
                                Odorizi: SIERA- 3.90 FIP- 3.61 xFIP- 3.96
                                Smyly: SIERA- 3.25 FIP- 3.91 xFIP-3.47

                                As you can see, Pineda outpreformed both Odorizzi and Smyly in peripherals. The Trop is pretty pitcher friendly, while we all know Yankee Stadium and their short porch is not. I know you're a rays fan, so its hard to separate that, but the basic numbers do lean Pineda as the best of the 3.

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