MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Davis and Stilson are terrible lol. I don't know who's in OSFM but take Conner Greene or something.

I'd love to have Greene--he's probably my favorite prospect in the entire Toronto system-- but I'm surprised you think the Jays would pay that for Cashner after saying Reid-Foley was unlikely to be moved for that level of pitcher. Some sources have (or had in preseason) Greene being the higher rated (some have him as #1 in the Jays system or just behind Alford) out of him and Reid-Foley. MLB has Greene #2 behind Alford. The BA midseason Top 100 has Reid-Foley at #84 and Greene at #90. Reid-Foley is crushing A+ in real life and Greene has just been ok at A+/AA. I'll have to consider that. I'd much rather get Greene than D.J. Davis + Stilson from a value standpoint. In fact, if Davis + Stilson were the best return I could get, I'd have to entertain hanging onto Cashner and QO'ing him for the draft pick.

Maybe I can do something like Cashner + Quackenbush/pen arm for Greene + small piece (like Stilson or Davis). Cecil is out for awhile so I think adding a pen arm going along with Cashner would be a good fit.

And it might be taking "realism" a bit far, but Conner Greene being a model and actor on the side would fit well in SoCal after life in baseball, lol. No, I'm serious. And, yes, I spend far too much time thinking about these details.

[KBLover]

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Some sources have (or had in preseason) Greene being the higher rated (some have him as #1 in the Jays system or just behind Alford) out of him and Reid-Foley. MLB has Greene #2 behind Alford. The BA midseason Top 100 has Reid-Foley at #84 and Greene at #90. Reid-Foley is crushing A+ in real life and Greene has just been ok at A+/AA. I'll have to consider that. I'd much rather get Greene than D.J. Davis + Stilson from a value standpoint. In fact, if Davis + Stilson were the best return I could get, I'd have to entertain hanging onto Cashner and QO'ing him for the draft pick.

Maybe I can do something like Cashner + Quackenbush/pen arm for Greene + small piece (like Stilson or Davis). Cecil is out for awhile so I think adding a pen arm going along with Cashner would be a good fit.

I know irl > all so don't shoot me for asking this, but how is Greene developing in your franchise? I would think if Greene is slowing down/hitting a bump in his development, perhaps he wouldn't be thought of so highly.

Basically, is his trajectory in your franchise like it is in the real game?

[BlueJays09]

MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

WTNY - I think I dealt Foley, Davis and Another C prospect for Cashner, Norris in my last franchise thanks to the help here.


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[AC]

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Some sources have (or had in preseason) Greene being the higher rated (some have him as #1 in the Jays system or just behind Alford)

This is pretty outdated/inaccurate. Greene's last 125 innings have had FIPs over 4.

[kenp86]

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Cubs and Yankees have agreed to a deal that will send closer Chapman to Chicago for minor league infielder Gleyber Torres, minor league outfielder Billy McKinney, pitcher Adam Warren and another player.

Looks to me to be a good trade for both sides. Cubs get a legitimate closer and much needed BP help. Yanks get a couple good spects in McKinney and Torres while getting Warren back. Basically a Chapman for Castro, Torres and McKinney trade in the end. Now time to go put this through for the cubs team I run on the show

[Tmizzle]

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Cubs and Yankees have agreed to a deal that will send closer Chapman to Chicago for minor league infielder Gleyber Torres, minor league outfielder Billy McKinney, pitcher Adam Warren and another player.

Looks to me to be a good trade for both sides. Cubs get a legitimate closer and much needed BP help. Yanks get a couple good spects in McKinney and Torres while getting Warren back. Basically a Chapman for Castro, Torres and McKinney trade in the end. Now time to go put this through for the cubs team I run on the show

I usually don't do real life trades in my season as I see it as a different season in existence. That is just me

[kenp86]

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I usually don't do real life trades in my season as I see it as a different season in existence. That is just me

Cubs are one of the six teams I use in my GM. So this is a trade I'd love to do. Torres and McKinney wouldn't see the field being blocked by better players while I finally get a dominant closer

[Tmizzle]

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We are at the end of Juneand trades are happening left and right. The Rays, Dodgers and Phillies keep sending me trade offers for Kurt Suzuki. As you guys know, I am going to pull a trade for Mesoraco once he is activated from his DL stint so Suzuki is not needed. I was going to DFA him but teams seem very interested in the defensive minded catcher. The Rays sit in first in the AL East at 39-32 1.5 games ahead of the Blue Jays, The Dodgers sit in first at 47-27 7 games up on the Giants and the Phillies sit in first place at 42-32 and are 1/2 game up on the Mets. All three need upgrades at catcher and in my opinion the Phillies and Rays need it the most. I honestly don't care what I get for him so any thoughts on the value? He is not having a great season at all so I guess they want him as a veteran presence and a starter as for me he splits time with Murphy until I upgrade the position. I was thinking a C level prospect or even just a low MLB player?

[Tmizzle]

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Cubs are one of the six teams I use in my GM. So this is a trade I'd love to do. Torres and McKinney wouldn't see the field being blocked by better players while I finally get a dominant closer

If the players didn't already get dealt in your season then go ahead and pull it. I am way to far in my twins season to pull that trade as I believe Chapman was already dealt.

[B Easy]

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My main point would be that I don't think 5-13 makes any team out of contention. I know this is a fantasy franchise, so realism is already out the window, but I would wait on this. The values also depend on what point these players are at in their careers, for Cepeda and Fisk. If it's '77 Fisk and '87 Gwynn, that's at the peak of both of their careers and you'd be flatly rejected. Stats don't really matter 18 games into the season.

In terms of long-term value, Gwynn was a 65 WAR player and Cepeda was a 50 WAR player. Both had different skill sets so they are hard to compare. Fisk was a 68 WAR player, although, he was mostly just a really good player for a long, long time rather than an all-timer. Getting both Gwynn and Fisk for Cepeda+ would most likely not be feasible.

Appreciate the feedback.

I get what you're saying about being in/out of contention only 18 games into the season, however I'm running a one-off season with not a lot of emphasis on long term goals (or realism )

I know the Pad's would never deal a prime, '87 Gwynn (nor would they deal a '77 Fisk for that matter) however I think if I'm able to pony up enough for one or the other (or both), I wouldn't feel AS bad; I'm well aware this whole ordeal isn't realistic.

I'll report back if I decide to make a move!

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Appreciate the feedback.

I get what you're saying about being in/out of contention only 18 games into the season, however I'm running a one-off season with not a lot of emphasis on long term goals (or realism )

I know the Pad's would never deal a prime, '87 Gwynn (nor would they deal a '77 Fisk for that matter) however I think if I'm able to pony up enough for one or the other (or both), I wouldn't feel AS bad; I'm well aware this whole ordeal isn't realistic.

I'll report back if I decide to make a move!

Might be helpful if you let us know some other players on your team so we can suggest players that might fit the trade. All we really know is you want Gwynn and Fisk. And you have Cepeda but who else could be involved?

[HolyStroke3]

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At the 2018 trade deadline in a 30 team control franchise, I play as Oakland. I'm at 53-53, 4 out of the wildcard. Baltimore is 43-62 and Adam Jones is a free agent at the end of the season

OAK gets: CF Adam Jones
Jones- 88 ovr, .276/.311/.473, 18 HR, 60 RBI

BAL gets: SP Nolan Washington, 2B Franklin Barreto
Washington- 76 ovr 82 pot 21 yo, 5-9, 5.20 ERA, 1.76 WHIP, 113 K, 128 IP (AAA)
Barreto- 71 ovr 89 pot 22 yo, .255/.309/.359, 4 HR, 30 RBI (AAA)

[Tmizzle]

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At the 2018 trade deadline in a 30 team control franchise, I play as Oakland. I'm at 53-53, 4 out of the wildcard. Baltimore is 43-62 and Adam Jones is a free agent at the end of the season

OAK gets: CF Adam Jones
Jones- 88 ovr, .276/.311/.473, 18 HR, 60 RBI

BAL gets: SP Nolan Washington, 2B Franklin Barreto
Washington- 76 ovr 82 pot 21 yo, 5-9, 5.20 ERA, 1.76 WHIP, 113 K, 128 IP (AAA)
Barreto- 71 ovr 89 pot 22 yo, .255/.309/.359, 4 HR, 30 RBI (AAA)

Didn't you post this before?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I know irl > all so don't shoot me for asking this, but how is Greene developing in your franchise? I would think if Greene is slowing down/hitting a bump in his development, perhaps he wouldn't be thought of so highly.

Basically, is his trajectory in your franchise like it is in the real game?

He doesn't really have many stats and it's just 2016 so there hasn't been a lot of alternate reality divergence from his real life reputation/hype/value.

I can give you some attributes though....

Conner Greene: 21 y/o, 68 OVR, 80 POT, 77 STAM, 57 H/9, 45 K/9, 71 BB/9, 40 HR/9, 42 Control, 52 Velocity, 72 Break

This is pretty outdated/inaccurate. Greene's last 125 innings have had FIPs over 4.

Hey, I'm not gonna argue with you there, lol. If I have AC's blessing to get Greene from the Jays, then that's exactly what I plan on doing.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Last one is 1B/3B Brett Wallace.

Contract Info: 2.5 years of team control at $1.0MM this season and escalating a bit over that period.

Vitals: 29 y/o, 72 OVR, C POT [56/50 Contact | 65/53 Power | 32 Vision | 57 Discipline | 66/64/51/61 Defensive ratings | 40 Speed]

Triple Crown Stats: .234, 13 HR, 37 RBI

Volume Stats: 252 AB, 13 BB, 74 K, 10 2B, 0 3B, 3 Errors (.988)

Rate Stats (career norms): 27.72 K% (29.17) | 4.87 BB% (7.10) | .234/.270/.429 (.245/.309/.408)

Nutshell Stats: 1.00 WAR (1.7 WAR pace)

Potentially Interested Teams: Angels (53-40, 2nd place), Brewers (51-40, 2nd place/2.5 WC lead), Mets (50-42, 1st place).

The Angels are in the mix and basically don't have any left-handed bats aside from Calhoun. I find that odd. Wallace could take some platoon at-bats from Cron/Pujols. Neither are having a great year. That Wallace could help at 1B/3B/DH makes LAA a natural fit.

The Brewers are a surprise and don't even need a ton of help at 1B/3B because Andy Wilkins and Will Middlebrooks are doing ok. I just kind of like the fit here for the rebuilding Brew Crew with Wallace having some team control left and Chris Carter out for a couple of months.

For the Mets, Duda is batting .215 and Flores is batting .232. Wallace would give them another 1B/3B option and pinch batter with some pop.

What I hope to accomplish here: Again, not a salary dump as Wallace is arb-eligible at a fairly inconsequential rate for 2 more years.

Wallace has some versatility, but doesn't really fit my long term vision for the team in terms of excelling at contact/defense/speed/pitching/obp. He doesn't really excel at any of those. With Jon Singleton likely to get another look at 1B and a Top prospect I got in this years draft also a 1B'man and with Solarte fairly well entrenched at 3B and Ryan Schmipf also an option there, I want to get whatever I can for Wallace.

Prospects I have interest in (in this price range)...not married to these exact guys:

I don't really have anything specific in mind here. A near-ready position player would be ideal, but those guys are hard to get.

Taylor Ward of the Angels would be nice, but I'm not sure if Wallace commands that type of return. The Angels don't have a lot on their farm, either. A couple of other options here would be INF Roberto Baldoquin, OF Rafael Ortega, or C Jett Bandy.

The surprising Brewers probably aren't dealing key prospects since they are rebuilding and just got lucky (25th best team according to the radial graphs). Maybe someone like OF Keon Broxton or OF Rymer Liriano would be available. RPs Damien Magnifico and Jed Bradley are a bit interesting.

As for the Mets, Dilson Herrera would be great, but again not likely to be moved for someone like Brett Wallace having just an ok season. Some bullpen arms such as Akeel Morris, Domingo Tapia, and Josh Smoker are likely the best fit.