MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[TitoFranc]

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No. Just no. The Yankess, Sox, and Dodgers would all hang up on you immediately. Again, you're severely overrating Indian players.

Lol I have yet to overrated any Indians players. You just apparently don't underswhat it mean for a player to be one of the best at their position which brings in to question why you post in this thread.

Funny how underrated Indians players are here. You can be a top 10 pitcher in baseball of an MVP candidate 2 years running and OS sports think they won't bring back top talent lol

[TitoFranc]

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the last 2 seasons Brantley has over 1100 ABS and he leads major league baseball LFers in BA, OBP, Doubles out of players who have played LF the last 2 years he's third in HRs, second in RBIs, and leads in OPS while playing gold glove calibur defense.

But good thing being one of the top OF in baseball of the last 2 years doesn't have value lol I swear you guys don't actually watch baseball

Cespedes who hasn't been as good as Braney brought back Micha Fulmer for 2 months of play, Brantley could bring back a Schwarber + BP arm + Min league guy type of deal easy, same as Judge.

[k_mac]

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Lol I have yet to overrated any Indians players. You just apparently don't underswhat it mean for a player to be one of the best at their position which brings in to question why you post in this thread.



Funny how underrated Indians players are here. You can be a top 10 pitcher in baseball of an MVP candidate 2 years running and OS sports think they won't bring back top talent lol

I think what everyone is trying to say is that no team would give a "Schwarber ++" type of package for a half of a season of Michael Brantley regardless of his stats and history. If there's a contract agreed upon before a trade, then you could absolutely get more back. But you're talking about giving up huge future pieces for like 2-3 months of, yes, a very good player, but one that isn't a lock to resign with your team. No sane GM would do any of the packages you're suggesting.

Nobody is doubting your Indians players or has a vendetta against you and your team.. You just have to objectively think about both sides of a trade.

[kenp86]

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Chisenhall for trout. Rajai for Harper. Brantley for altuve and correa. I mean how could they not do these? The great potential of Lonnie, the world class speed of rajai and the greatest hitter of all time in Brantley. Sounds like they're robbing you in these deals man.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Lol I have yet to overrated any Indians players. You just apparently don't underswhat it mean for a player to be one of the best at their position which brings in to question why you post in this thread.

Funny how underrated Indians players are here. You can be a top 10 pitcher in baseball of an MVP candidate 2 years running and OS sports think they won't bring back top talent lol

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Nobody is doubting your Indians players or has a vendetta against you and your team.. You just have to objectively think about both sides of a trade.

And furthermore, why keep coming back for advice to a thread you can't see eye to eye with over anything regarding the Indians? If you ask for advice and no less than 5 or 6 separate people all say "nope, bad idea"--it's bad form to try and refute them all and it probably means you ought to at least reconsider your ask. In most cases in life, it might say something if you are the only one that agrees with your position...and it might not be what you want to hear.

My initial instinct was that you were overrating Brantley as well. No doubt he's a good player and an All Star most years, but with defensive limitations/platoon limitations/health issues and vanishing team control, you are not realistically raiding an entire farm system although you might like to.

[TitoFranc]

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I think what everyone is trying to say is that no team would give a "Schwarber ++" type of package for a half of a season of Michael Brantley regardless of his stats and history. If there's a contract agreed upon before a trade, then you could absolutely get more back. But you're talking about giving up huge future pieces for like 2-3 months of, yes, a very good player, but one that isn't a lock to resign with your team. No sane GM would do any of the packages you're suggesting.

Nobody is doubting your Indians players or has a vendetta against you and your team.. You just have to objectively think about both sides of a trade.

Except it's for a full season, not half and it's trading him to markets thst have the willingness to sign him to the money he would probably get on the open market, so it was thinking subjectively. What people who think Michael Brantley wouldn't bring back a haul are people think he plays for the Indians so he can't be that good. I mean cespedes brought back a guy who's a top 50 prospect in baseball this year for only 2 months, not a whole season, and he hasn't been as good as Brantley over the last 2 years.

I mean if Brantley played for another team I don't think anyone would be saying Bradley Zimmer is too much to give up for Brantley.

[TitoFranc]

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Chisenhall for trout. Rajai for Harper. Brantley for altuve and correa. I mean how could they not do these? The great potential of Lonnie, the world class speed of rajai and the greatest hitter of all time in Brantley. Sounds like they're robbing you in these deals man.

Isn't trolling a ban offense ?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Here's an idea, Tito. Just do the Indians trades you want or don't do them, but running them by here doesn't seem to be getting you anywhere.

[TitoFranc]

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And furthermore, why keep coming back for advice to a thread you can't see eye to eye with over anything regarding the Indians? If you ask for advice and no less than 5 or 6 separate people all say "nope, bad idea"--it's bad form to try and refute them all and it probably means you ought to at least reconsider your ask. In most cases in life, it might say something if you are the only one that agrees with your position...and it might not be what you want to hear.

My initial instinct was that you were overrating Brantley as well. No doubt he's a good player and an All Star most years, but with defensive limitations/platoon limitations/health issues and vanishing team control, you are not realistically raiding an entire farm system although you might like to.

So people can't have a discussion? Well time to shut the forum down then, sounds like no reason for it to exist by your logic.

It's not my fault everyone under values Indians players like thinking Gallo is bringing back 5 years control of a top 10 pitcher in baseball or Michael Brantley is only bringing back mid level player for a full season of control plus playing for markers that would sign him.

I thought this place was supposed to be realistic?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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So people can't have a discussion? Well time to shut the forum down then, sounds like no reason for it to exist by your logic.

It's not my fault everyone under values Indians players like thinking Gallo is bringing back 5 years control of a top 10 pitcher in baseball or Michael Brantley is only bringing back mid level player for a full season of control plus playing for markers that would sign him.

I thought this place was supposed to be realistic?

Disagreeing with everyone and overvaluing players on your favorite team is actually not "having a discussion"--it's being contrarian and argumentative.

My initial point stands, if you aren't getting anything out of this thread (if it's not realistic and full of bad ideas), why keep coming back?

[TitoFranc]

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Here's an idea, Tito. Just do the Indians trades you want or don't do them, but running them by here doesn't seem to be getting you anywhere.

Yeah shame on me for being realistic

[TitoFranc]

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Disagreeing with everyone and overvaluing players on your favorite team is actually not "having a discussion"--it's being contrarian and argumentative.

My initial point stands, if you aren't getting anything out of this thread (if it's not realistic and full of bad ideas), why keep coming back?

I'm still waiting for where I've once overrated an Indians player. Oh my bad for pricing the 2 players I've talked about happen to be at the top of baseball at their positions. I guess they just should play worse to make this place more realistic.

If you don't like discussion then maybe you should leave yourself. Nm

[TitoFranc]

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So let me ask you all this, the Indians could use a RF, if I wanted to trade for Cespedes, would I be able to get him without giving up Bradley Zimmer or Clint Frazier ?

Edit: He has a 1 year opt out, so in this scenario they are shopping him because he said he would opt out

[eF 5ive]

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So let me ask you all this, the Indians could use a RF, if I wanted to trade for Cespedes, would I be able to get him without giving up Bradley Zimmer or Clint Frazier ?

He just re signed with the mets, I don't think they realistically look to shop him. (IMO)

[TitoFranc]

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He just re signed with the mets, I don't think they realistically look to shop him. (IMO)

He has a 1 year opt out though. Let's say he tells them Hes going to opt out