MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Tmizzle]

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This. You also didn't let us know how Travis is playing in AAA

I didn't post that because like I stated in the Original post, CPU offers are usually shyt and I never take them serious but this one enticed me. If you want to know, Travis is hitting .220 with 1 HR and 21 RBIs

[AC]

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Travis is not getting traded for a prospect

[Tmizzle]

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Travis is not getting traded for a prospect

Like I stated, It was a CPU offered trade. He is rotting in Triple-A as Barney is hitting the cover off the ball.

[Mattchu12]

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David Robertson is pitching pretty rough for the Chicago White Sox at the start of June in my franchise. He'd be a candidate to get bumped from the closer's role if he wasn't making so much money (12M per for the next three seasons) as Albers, Duke, and Jones are all excelling.

Robertson is 1-2 with a 4.50 ERA over 16 IP for a 0.11 WAR.

What kind of value does he have for a White Sox team that is 25-30, last and five games out in the AL Central, and five games out of the Wild Card with only three teams below them? Is he someone that brings back prospects (if so, what caliber?) or is he at the bad-contract swap level?

[CBoller1331]

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David Robertson is pitching pretty rough for the Chicago White Sox at the start of June in my franchise. He'd be a candidate to get bumped from the closer's role if he wasn't making so much money (12M per for the next three seasons) as Albers, Duke, and Jones are all excelling.

Robertson is 1-2 with a 4.50 ERA over 16 IP for a 0.11 WAR.

What kind of value does he have for a White Sox team that is 25-30, last and five games out in the AL Central, and five games out of the Wild Card with only three teams below them? Is he someone that brings back prospects (if so, what caliber?) or is he at the bad-contract swap level?

16 IP is a pretty small sample size, so a 4.50 ERA shouldn't take much value out of a guy with a track record like Robertson's, however, early June is too, well....early...for a team 5 GB to consider selling.

If they're still out of it by mid/late July, he probably could get back one prospect, but probably not a very highly regarded one. The contract isn't all that bad...maybe it limits the type of prospect they get, but it shouldn't be detrimental to his trade value

[HolyStroke3]

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Offseason prior to 2018, looking to move a few guys

SP Henderson Alvarez, 77 ovr. 13-12, 3.04 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 105 K, 210.0 IP. 1 year/ 4.0 M remaining
3B Danny Valencia, 75 ovr. .262/.423/.728, 20 HR, 56 RBI, 480 AB. 2 years/ 2.7 M per year remaining

Looking for prospects in return. What is fair value?

[Mattchu12]

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16 IP is a pretty small sample size, so a 4.50 ERA shouldn't take much value out of a guy with a track record like Robertson's, however, early June is too, well....early...for a team 5 GB to consider selling.

If they're still out of it by mid/late July, he probably could get back one prospect, but probably not a very highly regarded one. The contract isn't all that bad...maybe it limits the type of prospect they get, but it shouldn't be detrimental to his trade value

I'm just doing early planning. No trades planned until July. As the Yankees, I'd be down to move Chapman and then bring in Robertson to replace him. Just curious what his value is if he's still struggling come July and the White Sox are still trailing.

[HolyStroke3]

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Heading into 2018, targeting a few pitchers for a long relief role with the A's. Heres their current info and 2017 stats


Roenis Ellis (BOS), 29 yo, 77 ovr, 3.057 service time. 7-13, 4.88 ERA, 1.49 WHIP, 101 K, 151.1 IP

John Lamb (MIA), 27 yo, 73 ovr, 1.024 service time. 1-3, 3.92 ERA, 1.35 WHIP, 40 K, 41.1 IP

Sammy Solis (WAS), 29 yo, 72 ovr, 1.025 service time. Only made 1 appearance in 2017: 3 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 ER

Brett Oberholtzer (PHI), 28 yo, 75 ovr, 3.127 service time. 5-4, 4.75 ERA, 1.49 WHIP, 30 K, 55 IP


Looking for opinions on return prospect value for those guys

[Mattchu12]

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It's mid-June and Chase Headley is hitting .280/.330/.423 with 5 HR, 16 RBI, and 2 SB for a WAR of 0.52 right now.

I'm planning to go in hard on Yulieski Gourriel once we see what he signs for, so I'd like to ship Headley out before then. What kind of return can I get for Headley?

Teams that Headley would be an upgrade for at either 3B, 1B, or DH are White Sox, Tigers, Twins, Angels, Athletics, Astros, Braves, Nationals, and Brewers. The White Sox, Athletics, Braves, and Brewers are more than five games out of the Wild Card, so I don't consider them in it, but Headley is locked up for three seasons at $13MM per.

I am able to eat $17.1MM of the $39MM left on his deal, but would rather not do that unless it made a big difference. Thoughts?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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It's mid-June and Chase Headley is hitting .280/.330/.423 with 5 HR, 16 RBI, and 2 SB for a WAR of 0.52 right now.

I'm planning to go in hard on Yulieski Gourriel once we see what he signs for, so I'd like to ship Headley out before then. What kind of return can I get for Headley?

Teams that Headley would be an upgrade for at either 3B, 1B, or DH are White Sox, Tigers, Twins, Angels, Athletics, Astros, Braves, Nationals, and Brewers. The White Sox, Athletics, Braves, and Brewers are more than five games out of the Wild Card, so I don't consider them in it, but Headley is locked up for three seasons at $13MM per.

I am able to eat $17.1MM of the $39MM left on his deal, but would rather not do that unless it made a big difference. Thoughts?

You will need to wait till July to get a better picture but yeah you're going to have to eat most of that salary to get anything for Headley. He isn't worth his salary and I gave a hard time believing he is an upgrade for anyone trying to make the playoffs. If he was you wouldn't be so keen on trading him.

He's not an upgrade for the Nats, the Tigers, Twins or Angels. Angels already have an overpaid corner infield guy. Astros would probably rather use their young guys than give prospects for a guy past his prime. My math could be wrong but a .52 WAR in mid June is maybe a 2 WAR season? That's not very going to make people want him.

[Mattchu12]

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You will need to wait till July to get a better picture but yeah you're going to have to eat most of that salary to get anything for Headley. He isn't worth his salary and I gave a hard time believing he is an upgrade for anyone trying to make the playoffs. If he was you wouldn't be so keen on trading him.

He's not an upgrade for the Nats, the Tigers, Twins or Angels. Angels already have an overpaid corner infield guy. Astros would probably rather use their young guys than give prospects for a guy past his prime. My math could be wrong but a .52 WAR in mid June is maybe a 2 WAR season? That's not very going to make people want him.

I'm only willing to move him because I don't think my Yankees are going to make the playoffs, and I think Gourriel will be better than him and want to sign him whenever we find out what he'll be available for money wise.

When I say upgrade, I'm referring to how their current 3B, 1B, or DH is statistically performing. Zimmerman, Castellanos, Plouffe, and Escobar have all been pretty bad so far. The Angels are bad across the board, really. He would be a statistical upgrade over Escobar and Cron. Obviously some guys have other factors to take into account, but I'm just talking immediate statistical value.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I'm only willing to move him because I don't think my Yankees are going to make the playoffs, and I think Gourriel will be better than him and want to sign him whenever we find out what he'll be available for money wise.

When I say upgrade, I'm referring to how their current 3B, 1B, or DH is statistically performing. Zimmerman, Castellanos, Plouffe, and Escobar have all been pretty bad so far. The Angels are bad across the board, really. He would be a statistical upgrade over Escobar and Cron. Obviously some guys have other factors to take into account, but I'm just talking immediate statistical value.

What's the WAR for Escobar, Cron, Zimmerman, Castellanos, and Plouffe. Not to mention Castellanos is a young former top prospect, Zimmerman has a huge deal, Twins could just use Sano at 3rd

[Scrapps]

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I'm only willing to move him because I don't think my Yankees are going to make the playoffs, and I think Gourriel will be better than him and want to sign him whenever we find out what he'll be available for money wise.

When I say upgrade, I'm referring to how their current 3B, 1B, or DH is statistically performing. Zimmerman, Castellanos, Plouffe, and Escobar have all been pretty bad so far. The Angels are bad across the board, really. He would be a statistical upgrade over Escobar and Cron. Obviously some guys have other factors to take into account, but I'm just talking immediate statistical value.

If the Angels are bad across the board, why would they be interested in giving up anything for an aging, overpaid, below average player? They would be sellers, looking for prospects.

[Tmizzle]

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If the Angels are bad across the board, why would they be interested in giving up anything for an aging, overpaid, below average player? They would be sellers, looking for prospects.

I agree with you on that. I think you should just ride with Headley.

[Mattchu12]

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What's the WAR for Escobar, Cron, Zimmerman, Castellanos, and Plouffe. Not to mention Castellanos is a young former top prospect, Zimmerman has a huge deal, Twins could just use Sano at 3rd

I've played a little deeper into June, so here are the adjusted WAR's. Headley isn't exactly setting the world on fire via WAR, but I think part of that has to do with the fact that he's been caught stealing a few times on blunders on my part.

He's hitting .288/335/.458 with 7 HR, 20 RBI, and 2 SB overall.

Headley = 0.60 WAR

Castellanos = -0.97 WAR
Plouffe = -0.01 WAR
Cron = -1.67 WAR
Escobar = 1.04 WAR (I didn't look at his WAR originally, but was surprised to see this. Feel like he was doing much worse than this when I last checked.)
Zimmerman = 0.04 WAR

Obviously, like I said before, there are other factors to take into account. You're right about Castellanos, he's young and capable of turning it around. Sano could move back to third, he's putting up MVP type numbers. Cron is young and super cheap. Escobar has been bette than Headley as it turns out, but could easily slide to second and bump Giavotella out of the lineup, who is at -0.20 WAR. Zimmerman has a big contract and was the face of the franchise.

Honestly, just looking to dump Headley and get fair value for him.

If the Angels are bad across the board, why would they be interested in giving up anything for an aging, overpaid, below average player? They would be sellers, looking for prospects.

They're a half game out of the wild card, so they're not completely out of it. I meant they're bad across their options that Headley could replace, but as I noted above, it turns out Escobar is actually having a better year than Headley by WAR. He would still be a major improvement over Cron, and Headley at 3B could slide Escobar over to second and bump out Giavotella from the lineup.

Like I said, just looking for potential matches and what fair value is.