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  • The JareBear
    Be Good To One Another
    • Jul 2010
    • 11560

    #136
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

    Originally posted by HypoLuxa13
    I'm beginning to think we'll need a Graphics impressions thread separate from the normal impressions thread.

    Even if you leave 720p out of the comparison, there are still 6 combinations of hardware. Then throw in the different visual modes available on the Pro and things are going to get confusing very quickly...

    I personally have 60" 1080p w/no HDR feature. So I have no interest in getting a PS4 Pro unless the "Enhanced Visuals" mode or "High Frame Rate" mode are found to be hugely noticeable upgrades (which I'm guessing will be very subjective as to what "hugely noticeable" means to each individual).
    I definitely feel what you are saying here. The Show is putting the Pro and Pro Mode enhancements on a lot of peoples radar for the first time, but the truth is that the Pro has been out since November and many games have offered different rendering modes for Pro owners. Some games, like Nioh and RotTR, have offered 3 different options just like The Show is doing (Nioh does it in a different way, but still three modes nonetheless). This is all new to The Show, but not new in general, if that makes sense.

    It might all sound confusing on paper but when the game gets here it will make a lot more sense. There are sites dedicated to performance/technical analysis of games and hardware, like NX Gamer and Digital Foundry. Right at release, or maybe just very shortly after, we are going to have a detailed breakdown (assuming SCEA doesn't provide one of their own, beforehand) of what the true resolution is of each mode (pixel counting) and what each mode's frame rate is. The frame rate won't change display to display, nor will the internally rendered resolution of each mode (that's all within the Pro itself).

    You and Blzer both said you are looking to see massive upgrades for 1080p displays, and that by itself, as you said as well, will be entirely subjective. Hopefully you both, and anyone else, will be able to see the Pro in action live, or play on one even, when The Show hits to see if what it offers is worth it for you.

    If you just go off of screenshots or youtube videos, it might be hard to tell if the upgrade is "hugely noticeable" for 1080p owners. Feeling the frame rate boost, or seeing the crisper image that "enhanced visuals" down sampling will offer, are both things better experienced live, in person.

    Originally posted by hb5239799
    I'm in the same boat. I'm going to call around various vendors to see who is going to demo the game, on a pro + 4k HDR setup, then make a trip and see in the flesh...and base my upgrading decisions from there.
    This is a good idea, and is your best bet to know for sure. Comparison videos with compression (especially youtube videos) and comparing screen shots on whatever display you have doesn't always tell the whole tale. Just playing on a Pro, or at least watching it live, will be what should really tell you if it is worth a look or not, for you.
    Last edited by The JareBear; 03-18-2017, 02:38 PM.
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    • MetsFan16
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      • Nov 2011
      • 1416

      #137
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

      Originally posted by MetsFan16
      I'm so jealous of you all. Being a college kid on a budget doesn't allow me to drop this kind of money on new toys. Soon though!


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      But when you get that refund check in the mail... I took it straight to the bank, brought my OG PS4 to GameStop got a cool $150 trade in value and bought this beaut.
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      • Artman22
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        • Jul 2006
        • 4984

        #138
        MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

        Some that are saying they don't need the PS4 pro have obviously never played the pro on a good 4k HDR TV. I bought it at launch and been extremely happy with my purchase. In fact, since owning the pro I've barely played by Xbox slim because the difference is that noticeable. Those holding out because of financial reasons is different, but those holding out because they don't see a reason to are losing out big time. I tried MLB the show 16 with boost mode enabled and the game played a lot smoother. I can only imagine MLB 17. I guess another reason is because of only having a 1080p set, but even so with down sampling and higher framerates is still a no brainer for me.


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        • Da-Man
          Pro
          • Aug 2008
          • 625

          #139
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

          Originally posted by The JareBear
          Pretty cool that The Show has sold some Pros already on here. I wonder if we will see the same movement when/if Madden announces their Pro features down the line?

          Anyway, hope you guys are happy with your purchases.

          Super curious to see what the frame rate in each rendering mode ends up being. DF will be over that analysis as soon as they get the game I bet
          I think for Madden we'll see it running on project scorpio at e3 instead of the pro since EA and Microsoft are partners.

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          • The JareBear
            Be Good To One Another
            • Jul 2010
            • 11560

            #140
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

            So I am curious, for you guys with 4k displays. If you have to choose between 30fps and crystal clear, flawless clarity and image quality with 4k rendering, or buttery smooth 60fps but standard HD resolution (just hypothetical question, obviously we don't know what framerate mode will do yet), which one would you choose?

            It would be a harder choice for me to make than I think I realize. I would be going back and forth between the two constantly, comparing the experience.

            Just curious how you guys would choose, in that scenario.

            Originally posted by Da-Man
            I think for Madden we'll see it running on project scorpio at e3 instead of the pro since EA and Microsoft are partners.
            Very true. I forgot about that.
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            • fsufan4423
              Stop the Nonsense
              • Apr 2006
              • 1071

              #141
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

              Originally posted by The JareBear
              So I am curious, for you guys with 4k displays. If you have to choose between 30fps and crystal clear, flawless clarity and image quality with 4k rendering, or buttery smooth 60fps but standard HD resolution (just hypothetical question, obviously we don't know what framerate mode will do yet), which one would you choose?

              It would be a harder choice for me to make than I think I realize. I would be going back and forth between the two constantly, comparing the experience.

              Just curious how you guys would choose, in that scenario.



              Very true. I forgot about that.

              I have a 4K setup and the great thing is, with the Pro, you don't have to settle. If I choose to play one game with 4K and switch it out the next game...I can. I did the same with Tomb Raider.

              I see it this way, when I upgraded from the PS3 and 360 to the PS4 and Xbox One for graphics and performance reasons. It's the same logic for the Pro and One S. If you had a PS3 and upgraded to PS4, ask yourself why. Why there seems to be a so much debating is baffling to me.
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              • Blzer
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                • Mar 2004
                • 42515

                #142
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                I don't have a 4K set, but the non-4K options are an obvious winner for me. 30 FPS for baseball just wouldn't cut it when there is a smoother 60 FPS option available.

                That said, if there is 4K screen-capturing allowed on PS4, I wouldn't be able to help myself but do all of my screenshots in 4K, of course.
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                • DanH35
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 2324

                  #143
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                  Originally posted by The JareBear
                  So I am curious, for you guys with 4k displays. If you have to choose between 30fps and crystal clear, flawless clarity and image quality with 4k rendering, or buttery smooth 60fps but standard HD resolution (just hypothetical question, obviously we don't know what framerate mode will do yet), which one would you choose?

                  It would be a harder choice for me to make than I think I realize. I would be going back and forth between the two constantly, comparing the experience.

                  Just curious how you guys would choose, in that scenario.



                  Very true. I forgot about that.
                  That's what I did with Rise of the Tomb Raider. I ultimately picked the 4K option.

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                  • The JareBear
                    Be Good To One Another
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 11560

                    #144
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                    Originally posted by DanH35
                    That's what I did with Rise of the Tomb Raider. I ultimately picked the 4K option.
                    Me too.

                    In Nioh I went with framerate (action mode). I see split pretty evenly on what I choose with Pro games that offer options. I went with resolution in inFamous and Horizon (Horizon barely drops any frames in resolution mode anyway).

                    For The Show it would be tough for me because I feel like that framerate boost could go a long way as far as actually playing the game.
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                    • Aensland
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                      • May 2014
                      • 246

                      #145
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                      Originally posted by The JareBear
                      So I am curious, for you guys with 4k displays. If you have to choose between 30fps and crystal clear, flawless clarity and image quality with 4k rendering, or buttery smooth 60fps but standard HD resolution (just hypothetical question, obviously we don't know what framerate mode will do yet), which one would you choose?
                      For FPS, sports, and fighting games, I'd choose 60fps all the way. If it were an RPG, I may go the 4k@30fps route instead.

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                      • ricky24
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 4888

                        #146
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                        Great news. Was waiting to hear this.

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                        • ricky24
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                          • Jan 2014
                          • 4888

                          #147
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                          Anyone play the show on a ks8000? I'm wondering if having to use game mode will kind of cut in to the benefits of these options.

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                          • bjthomas121
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 819

                            #148
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                            Originally posted by ricky24
                            Anyone play the show on a ks8000? I'm wondering if having to use game mode will kind of cut in to the benefits of these options.
                            I'm wondering this too..I have a ks8500 so idk if I should use sport mode or game mode. Or no mode at all and just leave the screen setting a neutral.

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                            • PVarck31
                              Moderator
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16869

                              #149
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                              Originally posted by ricky24
                              Anyone play the show on a ks8000? I'm wondering if having to use game mode will kind of cut in to the benefits of these options.
                              Originally posted by bjthomas121
                              I'm wondering this too..I have a ks8500 so idk if I should use sport mode or game mode. Or no mode at all and just leave the screen setting a neutral.
                              Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you should always use game mode. It cuts down input lag dramatically.

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                              • mbergh22
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                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1380

                                #150
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                                I am thinking of getting a ps4 pro. I have a sony xbr43x800d. 4k hdr.

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                                Last edited by mbergh22; 03-19-2017, 12:33 AM.

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