MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

[metallidevils]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

Seems like half the people here think you need to tweak the settings and half don't. If I start a game and don't touch the menus, the game basically looks like there is no HDR on at all.

[hazelhood19]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

If you change any of your settings while in the pause menu of a game, your colors are going to be jacked up. Even if all you do is change the graphic mode (enhanced, 4K, high frame-rate) the colors will be horrible.

In order to keep the colors correct, you need to make any changes in the main menu. So, in short: DO NOT CHANGE GRAPHIC SETTINGS WHILE PAUSED

[ODogg]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

Many are starting to think this is how it's intended to work and it's not. Like you, I agree that it gets extremely bright and washed out but whatever floats your boat right? I'm beyond happy with how The Show looks on my KS8500 as the TV has been one of my better purchases along with the pro.

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Yeah it appears so. Well whatever looks best to people but it's definitely a bug because the screen shouldn't get that ultra-bright and washed out like that. If people are counting on how that is the way they like it they will not like it when Sony fixes the bug.

[ODogg]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

If you change any of your settings while in the pause menu of a game, your colors are going to be jacked up. Even if all you do is change the graphic mode (enhanced, 4K, high frame-rate) the colors will be jacked.

In order to keep the colors correct, you need to make any changes in the main menu. So, in short: DO NOT CHANGE GRAPHIC SETTINGS WHILE PAUSED

This is correct. And if you do then you will simply have to exit the game and restart it.

[Keirik]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

Anyone have this game with a pro and a sony x930d 65"?

[mike24forever]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

Slideritist has many forms but this is the most intriguing. 1 slider and 3 options have created 1000's of posts. Amazing.

[Artman22]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

After reading some of the stuff I read on this thread I'm going to try and help out a bit. I'll also try to explain what HDR does since it's quite obvious some here don't know.
Here's 2 TVs side by side. Both with backlights maxed, the same blu-ray movie and the one on the left without HDR while the one on the right has HDR. The one on the right is going to be darker because HDR is about details being enhanced by contrast and brightness.

HDR in these current sets work best under dark conditions. It will look bland and dark in day time viewing or bright rooms because tv's nits fluctuate and most tvs except Samsungs can't reach nit levels of 1000 and over for HDR. This makes OLED not as good for HDR content as their max is about 570 to 600 nits even though they are better in other areas.

The tv on the right is darker but has better details. One example is the sun and how it shines. Look how you can't even see the sun on the left and looks way over contrast without HDR.

Look at this other example. Here we have a dark sky and even though the tv on the right is darker because of HDR you can see more stars. HDR will continue to improve in future sets once they can offer better brightness nits for HDR content. For now Samsungs ks8000 and above are the better choice because of the level of nits they can achieve during HDR even though they have flaws which make OLED better but not for gaming.

Putting Dynamic contrast on anything but OFF makes it much brighter at the expense of details being loss like the pictures on the right show. It might be appealing to the average joe but reference setting after forcing your eyes will yield better lasting results.



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[ODogg]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

After reading some of the stuff I read on this thread I'm going to try and help out a bit. I'll also try to explain what HDR does since it's quite obvious some here don't know.
Here's 2 TVs side by side. Both with backlights maxed, the same blu-ray movie and the one on the left without HDR while the one on the right has HDR. The one on the right is going to be darker because HDR is about details being enhanced by contrast and brightness.

HDR in these current sets work best under dark conditions. It will look bland and dark in day time viewing or bright rooms because tv's nits fluctuate and most tvs except Samsungs can't reach nit levels of 1000 and over for HDR. This makes OLED not as good for HDR content as their max is about 570 to 600 nits even though they are better in other areas.

The tv on the right is darker but has better details. One example is the sun and how it shines. Look how you can't even see the sun on the left and looks way over contrast without HDR.

Look at this other example. Here we have a dark sky and even though the tv on the right is darker because of HDR you can see more stars. HDR will continue to improve in future sets once they can offer better brightness nits for HDR content. For now Samsungs ks8000 and above are the better choice because of the level of nits they can achieve during HDR even though they have flaws which make OLED better but not for gaming.

Putting Dynamic contrast on anything but OFF makes it much brighter at the expense of details being loss like the pictures on the right show. It might be appealing to the average joe but reference setting after forcing your eyes will yield better lasting results.



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Thank you for explaining this better than I could as I was thinking about trying to attempt it. Oh hell I'll add to your excellent explanation with my own

Yes HDR can make your screen look more dark but it's not anything that is "broke". As I've said before HDR offers much greater contrast so "normal" screens may not look as bright as you remember non-HDR screens looking. Think of it this way. To get a better picture you need to try to emulate real life which has a very wide range of colors and brightness levels but all details remain. HDR emulates that by providing a far wider range and although all details do not remain a far greater amount will remain than on a non-HDR screen if you have a good set.

On a television that is non-HDR, in the past, we've all had a slightly narrow range of colors and brightness and we have gotten used to it being that way. But with HDR we suddenly have a much wider range of brightness levels and to allow things to "pop" or look visually fantastic, or resembling real life, you are going to have darker darks along with brighter brights.

In other words you'll have more extremes on both sides and much like in real life, the baseline for brightness is going to be way lower. Real life is not "bright" like our TVs of the past but yet that's what many of us are used to from 20-30 or whatever years of tv watching and gaming.

So here's my advice for those of you who think everything is right on your set and your game but it all looks "too dark" and you are thinking that something is wrong: STICK WITH IT!

Simply use it for a while until you get used to it. Sometimes it may only take 30 minutes for some people, other times it may take days. But if you just immediately go "this doesn't look right" and just go and turn off HDR then you're really missing out and it is your own fault.

This whole discussion reminds me of music and how everything has gone the other way. All music today released is recorded on a bright, or high volume/amplitude level. If you listen to a CD from 1973 that hasn't been remastered it will sound very low volume. But there's a greater dynamic range from low to high, something missing in today's music.

How do I know about this? Well simple, I have a friend who is a musician and he explained it all to me. If you've ever listened to music from recent and then old music you will hear the difference in volume levels.

Fortunately for us the television world is realizing the right direction is to move to a far wider range of contrast instead of the inverse which is where the music industry is heading..

[Beasnizzle99]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

so I have tried to search this thread for any info, I have a samsung un40ku6300 4k Tv, with the ps4 slim, I messed around with HDR on and off in the game, anyone else have any input on a 4k with a slim on the show?

[ODogg]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

so I have tried to search this thread for any info, I have a samsung un40ku6300 4k Tv, with the ps4 slim, I messed around with HDR on and off in the game, anyone else have any input on a 4k with a slim on the show?

Do you have the most recent firmware for that TV? A firmware launched in February that updated the HDR aspect.

[Beasnizzle99]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

Do you have the most recent firmware for that TV? A firmware launched in February that updated the HDR aspect.

yes my TV updated recently, I have HDR on hdmi 1, wich is where i have the ps4 plugged in, and I am able to turn on HDR on the console and in game, with it on and no intensity, it looks dark, and max intensity is very bright, im assuming this is correct and i need to find the happy median?

[ODogg]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

yes my TV updated recently, I have HDR on hdmi 1, wich is where i have the ps4 plugged in, and I am able to turn on HDR on the console and in game, with it on and no intensity, it looks dark, and max intensity is very bright, im assuming this is correct and i need to find the happy median?

Yeah, I would try slightly less than 50%, say 45% or so, on that HDR slider and then adjust from there as you see fit..

EDIT: be aware that when you change this slider it jacks up your picture so you'll need to restart the game. So here's what you'd do, go in and change the HDR slider to 45%. Quit the game, restart it and play for a bit, see what you think. If you don't like it, then adjust the slider, quit and restart the game and etc.

[hazelhood19]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

After reading some of the stuff I read on this thread I'm going to try and help out a bit. I'll also try to explain what HDR does since it's quite obvious some here don't know.
Here's 2 TVs side by side. Both with backlights maxed, the same blu-ray movie and the one on the left without HDR while the one on the right has HDR. The one on the right is going to be darker because HDR is about details being enhanced by contrast and brightness.

HDR in these current sets work best under dark conditions. It will look bland and dark in day time viewing or bright rooms because tv's nits fluctuate and most tvs except Samsungs can't reach nit levels of 1000 and over for HDR. This makes OLED not as good for HDR content as their max is about 570 to 600 nits even though they are better in other areas.

The tv on the right is darker but has better details. One example is the sun and how it shines. Look how you can't even see the sun on the left and looks way over contrast without HDR.

Look at this other example. Here we have a dark sky and even though the tv on the right is darker because of HDR you can see more stars. HDR will continue to improve in future sets once they can offer better brightness nits for HDR content. For now Samsungs ks8000 and above are the better choice because of the level of nits they can achieve during HDR even though they have flaws which make OLED better but not for gaming.

Putting Dynamic contrast on anything but OFF makes it much brighter at the expense of details being loss like the pictures on the right show. It might be appealing to the average joe but reference setting after forcing your eyes will yield better lasting results.



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Great post, Artman. That first picture you posted with the sun, on the left is exactly how your picture will look if you change your HDR settings while your game is paused. Super-bright and washed out all to hell.

[mosdef328]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

Quick question, I have a PS4 Pro, but I play on a normal 1080p tv that doesn't support 4k or HDR. Can I play the game on high frame rate mode? Or do I need a new tv to take advantage of anything the PS4 would do for The Show?

[seasprite]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

Great post, Artman. That first picture you posted with the sun, on the left is exactly how your picture will look if you change your HDR settings while your game is paused. Super-bright and washed out all to hell.

Even if you change your difficulty and leave visual settings alone, it will still do the super bright stuff. Happened to me last night when I simply went into gameplay settings in the pause menu and bumped up my batting difficulty. Resumed game and BAMMM everything is washed out