MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[dran1984]

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There's no way the Nats give up a rotation piece and a prospect for Gardner. Just look at the trade, Gio is the better piece even leaving Soto out of the equation.

Gardner for Gio has been a rumored the past 2 off seasons until the Nats got Eaton. So its not out of the realm of possibility.

[Syce]

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Gardner for Gio has been a rumored the past 2 off seasons until the Nats got Eaton. So its not out of the realm of possibility.

it was intriguing but i declined it, i figured, its still early in my franchise(3rd week of april) and my team is above .500 at the moment. also Ellsbury is on the DL

[hampshirestags]

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Thank you guys for answering my Cozart question. I was wondering what his value as Hardy is ummm, let's just say thankfully his contract is up at the end of the year.

I know realistically this would never happen but for whatever this year I am guessing the change they did to his wind up, I am having the worse time pitching with Kevin Gausman. I can't locate his pitches for whatever reason. In my Franchise it is currently June 30th and he is pitching to a 4.91 ERA, a 1.45 WHIP but is averaging nearly 9 strikeouts per 9. I am also walking about 3.5 batters per 9 innings with him as well. I will probably hold onto to him through the season unless I would be overwhelmed with an offer. As of right now he has 2.5 years of control left. What do you think is a realistic return for him?


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Hey SC! I didn't even recognize you had a Cozart value question until you said something and went back to look. For future reference, if your question goes a couple/3 pages without being answered, nobody is going to call you out for bumping it. When you do, say you bumped it and somebody will grab it. Just so you know, I used the search window and found Bard's valuation of Cozart in less than 10 minutes. The window itself seems to work better in the full site vs. mobile but that may just be my experience. To summarize though, stick with a high C + low C for Cozart (for now, that may change in a month or so when he comes crashing down) at the break unless a playoff push team needs a SS. If that's the case, post the deal and the circumstances and somebody will give you a fair trade.

As I've said before, I avoid O's deals like the plague unless I'm the one buying. I'll still try to tax myself but will 'open debate' to make sure it's a fair value for other readers. I'm not going to value Gausman but will ask you...who wants that line? Playoff push teams have guys that can spot start to get those results and you're selling too low for anybody else. Keep him and make him pitch through it.

FYI...I also have walk issues with almost everybody I pitch with. I've tinkered with sliders and even tried stepping down in difficulty but haven't been able to find, what I feel, is a good balance. It very well could be just ratings vs. game coding that's giving those results. However, I'd bet the ranch there is a thread somewhere in this forum that talks about it. If there's not, start one and I'll respond to see if we can make a little noise. Also, try the Hybrid rosters for a few games and see if that helps/hurts.

[sc050610]

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Hey SC! I didn't even recognize you had a Cozart value question until you said something and went back to look. For future reference, if your question goes a couple/3 pages without being answered, nobody is going to call you out for bumping it. When you do, say you bumped it and somebody will grab it. Just so you know, I used the search window and found Bard's valuation of Cozart in less than 10 minutes. The window itself seems to work better in the full site vs. mobile but that may just be my experience. To summarize though, stick with a high C + low C for Cozart (for now, that may change in a month or so when he comes crashing down) at the break unless a playoff push team needs a SS. If that's the case, post the deal and the circumstances and somebody will give you a fair trade.



As I've said before, I avoid O's deals like the plague unless I'm the one buying. I'll still try to tax myself but will 'open debate' to make sure it's a fair value for other readers. I'm not going to value Gausman but will ask you...who wants that line? Playoff push teams have guys that can spot start to get those results and you're selling too low for anybody else. Keep him and make him pitch through it.



FYI...I also have walk issues with almost everybody I pitch with. I've tinkered with sliders and even tried stepping down in difficulty but haven't been able to find, what I feel, is a good balance. It very well could be just ratings vs. game coding that's giving those results. However, I'd bet the ranch there is a thread somewhere in this forum that talks about it. If there's not, start one and I'll respond to see if we can make a little noise. Also, try the Hybrid rosters for a few games and see if that helps/hurts.

Thanks Hampshiretags. I try not to bump thing that I figure will come up again. I hate to be that guy. Lol. I did try the searching but I probably gave up too soon before seeing Bard's post.

I'll give the hybrid rosters a try. I was using 1.5. I know this isn't the place but are you using a slider set? Or just adjust as you go? I feel weird that I pitch better with Ubaldo than I do Gausman.


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[hampshirestags]

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Thanks Hampshiretags. I try not to bump thing that I figure will come up again. I hate to be that guy. Lol. I did try the searching but I probably gave up too soon before seeing Bard's post.

I'll give the hybrid rosters a try. I was using 1.5. I know this isn't the place but are you using a slider set? Or just adjust as you go? I feel weird that I pitch better with Ubaldo than I do Gausman.


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Seriously, don't worry about bumping if you've given it a couple of pages. There is no rhyme/reason to how I (and assume others) pick up posts and there is always more people asking questions than answering them. Other than trying to stay out of deals when there is already a line of communication open with somebody else, it's open season.

I'm sure you know there is an entire subject thread dedicated to sliders but as I've said before, if we're slow around here, there's enough experience to answer the one-off question (unless the mods step in and say stop...then we stop!). I typically use Armor and Sword and have for years (he pops in/out of this thread). This year I'm having BB issues (could just be me...but all of a sudden?) so I've experimented and tinkered with very minor adjustments. When the 2 yr old is napping, hop in there and read up. It's some good info and you may find something that fits your need.

[sc050610]

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Seriously, don't worry about bumping if you've given it a couple of pages. There is no rhyme/reason to how I (and assume others) pick up posts and there is always more people asking questions than answering them. Other than trying to stay out of deals when there is already a line of communication open with somebody else, it's open season.

I'm sure you know there is an entire subject thread dedicated to sliders but as I've said before, if we're slow around here, there's enough experience to answer the one-off question (unless the mods step in and say stop...then we stop!). I typically use Armor and Sword and have for years (he pops in/out of this thread). This year I'm having BB issues (could just be me...but all of a sudden?) so I've experimented and tinkered with very minor adjustments. When the 2 yr old is napping, hop in there and read up. It's some good info and you may find something that fits your need.

I use the same set. Walks except for Gausman weren't much of an issue for me. I've had the exact opposite issue I guess you could call it as I felt I was just striking way too many guys out the Oriole rotation. Starter would last 5-6 innings and have 10-12 strikeouts. I'll check back over there to see if anything else has been changed since I last checked over there a week or two.



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[Gagnon39]

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I'm in late June as the Cubs and will be looking to acquire a lefty reliever before the deadline. What might it take to get the one of the following? I prefer not to part with Happ or Jiminez.

Here's a couple pitcher's I have my eye on:

Sean Doolittle (Athletics are last in the AL West)

3.28 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 0.5 WAR,

Jake McGee (Rockies pretty much out of contention)

4.58 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, 0.1 WAR

I'd be interested in any other lefty options as well.



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[kinsmen7]

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Have we come to a conclusion on Joey Votto's value? I apologize if I missed it but I searched the thread and couldn't find an agreed upon answer.

I just made it to the 2017 World Series (haven't played game 1 yet) with the Jays, so obviously this move would take place in the off season. I know Votto has maybe said he prefers to say with the Reds but if he was ever going to waive I think the Jays coming off a World Series would be believable.

Not sure there is a prospect I would be against moving for him, as despite his massive contract I could use a LH bat to pair with Donaldson. Only prospect I don't have is SRF as I traded him already. Thanks in advance.

I'm also curious about this. I've looked back and can't find the answer (apart from that there's a near zero chance that he ever gets moved). I'm in a similar situation (Though I still have SRF). I've got budget room with Joey Bats/Estrada/Liriano coming off the books (Though I enjoy the challenge of pitching with Estrada, so I might keep him). Hate to be a bumper and if the question has been answered I apologize profusely, but I'm definitely curious about it!

[bryanm1982]

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In my Pirates franchise I'm 0.5 games ahead in the wild card race but I don't have a lot of power on my team. I have Hansen as my everyday 2B but he is only hitting .250 and Harrison is hurt but coming back in a few days he is only batting .238 with 2 HR. It is July 1st and Kang and McCutchen lead the team with only 12 HR. What would it take to get Frazier from the White Sox who are in last place? He is hitting over .300 and has 18 HR. And Davidson is raking in the MiLB for them. Would I have to give up Meadows or Glasnow? I've been wanting to save them for a Quintana trade later on if need be.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I'm also curious about this. I've looked back and can't find the answer (apart from that there's a near zero chance that he ever gets moved). I'm in a similar situation (Though I still have SRF). I've got budget room with Joey Bats/Estrada/Liriano coming off the books (Though I enjoy the challenge of pitching with Estrada, so I might keep him). Hate to be a bumper and if the question has been answered I apologize profusely, but I'm definitely curious about it!

If we assume Votto is a 5 WAR player going forward, and he's been at least that 6 out of the last 7 years and the one he didn't he was hurt and only played 60 games it helps figure value.

That would be 7 years and 5 WAR average. So

35(WAR) x $10(Using that figure because I am lazy. There would be inflation) = $350 value. - $170 million remaining gives us a surplus value of $180 million dollars, which is a huge number. His contract will probably make a team hesitant to do that. But the Jays will have to part with SRF, Vlad Jr & Alford to make something happen there

[kinsmen7]

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If we assume Votto is a 5 WAR player going forward, and he's been at least that 6 out of the last 7 years and the one he didn't he was hurt and only played 60 games it helps figure value.

That would be 7 years and 5 WAR average. So

35(WAR) x $10(Using that figure because I am lazy. There would be inflation) = $350 value. - $170 million remaining gives us a surplus value of $180 million dollars, which is a huge number. His contract will probably make a team hesitant to do that. But the Jays will have to part with SRF, Vlad Jr & Alford to make something happen there

Yeeeeeehaw. That's just about the entire farm which is pretty much what I figured. Thanks!

[Hardworker33]

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I know Markakis is worth an old pair of socks but does Wainwright is worth an old pair of gloves?


Just asking since my hands are freezing..


If so, I might swing the deal in the offseason, put Wainwright as #5 starter to give another year to my prospects.


Right now I roll with the best pitching staff (stat wise) in the Majors (hard to believe haha) with


Teheran
Foltynewicz
Garcia
Blair
Wisler


I've signed Shintaro Fujinami when I started my Franchise and I don't plan on resigning Garcia in my 1st offseason. I'd like to keep Fujinami for another year in AAA (at least 1/2 season) so could use Wainwright as my #5.


Big contract for big contract

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I know Markakis is worth an old pair of socks but does Wainwright is worth an old pair of gloves?


Just asking since my hands are freezing..


If so, I might swing the deal in the offseason, put Wainwright as #5 starter to give another year to my prospects.


Right now I roll with the best pitching staff (stat wise) in the Majors (hard to believe haha) with


Teheran
Foltynewicz
Garcia
Blair
Wisler


I've signed Shintaro Fujinami when I started my Franchise and I don't plan on resigning Garcia in my 1st offseason. I'd like to keep Fujinami for another year in AAA (at least 1/2 season) so could use Wainwright as my #5.


Big contract for big contract

Wainwright is a good bit more valuable than Markakis. He was worth almost 3x as many WAR last season

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[Hardworker33]

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Wainwright is a good bit more valuable than Markakis. He was worth almost 3x as many WAR last season

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Thanks! Looks like another year with him is a must.. I'm still wishing to find a trash for trash player *contract* swap.


At least, I'm playing decent with Kemp but can't hit with Markakis.

[milldaddy35]

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Would the CWS trade David Robertson for Minnesota Twins catcher Mitch Graver? Last year they had a similar trade lined up with a Nationals Catcher, but the deal fell through. I am thinking the trade would be fair. Graver is on a similar track as Servino, and also has options left. If not, what would I have to add to get Robertson?