CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

[raneman85]

CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

And he's out of the game after one pitch and a long fly out. Not Acker but Ley a lefty to pitch to Northrop. Good strategy by the CPU.

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[hitman23]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I had an opposite event happen. The starter stayed in all 11 innings and his pitch count was up over 150. Every inning he came out with fresh energy. The box score at the end of the game showed multiple pitchers through the game but while in the game it continued to be the same guy. I saved a screen shot of it.

That is bizarre.

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[forme95]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Has anyone gone a month or + with this and see if it settles as a season progresses? Just curious.

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[squashbuggie]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

do you fellas mean to tell me that if you give majority of pitchers 85-99 stamina, that when you bat vs cpu - they still pull the starter too early ? when it comes to the sim engine, the sliders will not help that much. you need to edit stamina.

[bronxbombers21325]

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I was thinking about this, as I have experienced it as well. In today's game this isn't all that unrealistic. Most teams these days rely heavily on their bullpens. Seems there are more teams than not that only keep their starters in they the 6th inning max.

[jvalverde88]

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Julio Teheran finished the inning with 108 pitches and didn't come out for the next inning. I've had pitchers taken out with 60-65 pitches thrown in 5th-6th inning on QC, so I really think it might be a QC problem IMO because I've never had that happen to me with QC off.

[Hardworker33]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I'm really happy that my thread was an eye opener for many posters. As others previously said, I'd like to congratulate everyone as it was constructive feedbacks, which is awesome!

With that being said (I've read all posts since I created it), I can confirm that it's not a normal thing after playing ~50 QC games in my franchise. SP has never went above 5 IP. I'd say my average length by SP is yanked in the 3rd with 40-50 pitches after allowing 8 runs or 1 run as if it doesn't matter.

I still play my franchise as it's pretty much the only mode I play in + being into my 3rd season, I literally felt in love with the team I've built haha. However, it really has an effect on my enjoyment when you know SP will not go deeper than 3 innings. The Show is a sim game, which I absolutely love (not an arcade kind of guy for video games) but realism is deeply affected according to me.

Not much concern, as I'm pretty confident SCEA will acknowledge that and fix it since they are pretty much the only ones listening to their community!

[knich]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Once again. I disagree. I think it is an issue. Here is a simple test. Start a franchise. Simply sim about five or ten games. Then go look at the box scores for most of those games. You will see that the ave SP pitched about 5 and 1/3 innings for all the teams. The relievers are totaling more innings than the starters. This is not the way it should be.

I believe the overall ave for major league baseball for starting pitchers is 6 and 1/3 innings. Unless a starter is getting rocked, hurt, or throwing way to many pitches. A starter that is keeping his team with in 2 runs is designated to throw at least 6 full innings.

The other problem with the logic in this game is when they pull the starting pitcher, they leave the reliever in to long and I believe they are coming in cold. Most relievers in MLB will not throw over 3 innings. In show 17, it seems if they put in relief in the 4th or 5th inning. He will pitch till the 8th depending on the situation.

Some don't feel that this is a game killer. I think it really takes the realism out of franchise. There are four major parts of baseball. Pitching, Hitting, Fielding. and they all relate to STRATEGY. And for me, the strategy and logic of all these are crucial for franchise play. Pulling pitchers to early or too late completely changes the outcome of games and screws up the realism of stats.. I realize that this is only a video game and it can't be humanized but once again this was not an issue in the Show 16. They had it pretty close. Something has changed in the logic. And it needs to be adjusted for franchise play.

For those that don't have a problem with it or don't care about stats realism. That is awesome. Enjoy the game as is. But please don't criticize those of us that do see it as an issue or say there is nothing wrong. To many people agree that it isn't right. If the devs have people saying they don't have a problem with it, they may just feel why bother fixing it. Just my opinion. I think they just need to tweak it, it is just a little off maybe by an inning or two.

For myself, it is enough to ruin a serious franchise for me. But I can always go back to 16 until fixed.

I agree with everything except I'm NEVER going back to 16. Let's fix it. Game is awesome!

[knich]

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Julio Teheran finished the inning with 108 pitches and didn't come out for the next inning. I've had pitchers taken out with 60-65 pitches thrown in 5th-6th inning on QC, so I really think it might be a QC problem IMO because I've never had that happen to me with QC off.

That's great but it is not just a QC problem.

[EWRMETS]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

That's great but it is not just a QC problem.

There's nothing conclusive that there is an issue in regular play.

[themoneyteam1212]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

There's nothing conclusive that there is an issue in regular play.

Uhhhh. Yes their is bruh

[underdog13]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

There's nothing conclusive that there is an issue in regular play.

They are defently being puller earlier than last years game. And it seems like the majority of the people are believe it's not good.

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[Mike Lowe]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

A separate hook slider for bullpen and starters would help.

I like that they've toned down the starter complete games and shutouts, but it went a tad too far. They must also remedy the long reliever turning into essentially a 6th starter pitching sometimes 100 innings or more.

Must also keep relievers at less innings pitched than appearances, not more.

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[EWRMETS]

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They are defently being puller earlier than last years game. And it seems like the majority of the people are believe it's not good.

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They are being pulled earlier in real life as well. Average innings per start dropped from consistently around 6 to 5.6. With bullpening gaining steam, expect the trend to continue.

[knich]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

They are being pulled earlier in real life as well. Average innings per start dropped from consistently around 6 to 5.6. With bullpening gaining steam, expect the trend to continue.

That may be true but that's not what we're talking about. Perhaps you watched the Cardinals v. Cubs starters last night. They were not arbitrarily pulled in the 5th inning.