CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

[jtshurtleff]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Ian Kennedy (85 stamina) going 7 deep with a pitch count in the 90's (and yellow energy). Still default sliders (except an experimental contact tweak for other reasons):





I'm playing the same game as you guys - I promise. And that's why I'm worried about a patch overcorrection.

This is good to see, and I have seen similar results in 1-0 or 2-1 games. I played the Tigers and was up 1-0 on a 3rd inning bloop single and Verlander went 7 and threw 92 pitches. On the flip side I faced the Pirates and Nova was up 4-0 and at 78 pitches through 6 and they pulled him. I think it has a ton to do with stamina rating which is fine but I think they need to do something to tweak it and make stamina not the most deciding factor. It needs to be available stamina remaining, then situation, then pitch count. If a guy is at 80 pitches or so, has say 30% of his stamina left and is up 3-2 then he should stay in, no matter the inning unless he gets into trouble, say a runner on 2nd with less than 2 out. I also think pitchers who come out for another inning after hitting 80 pitches and then walk the first guy they face should be taken out. I have also yet to see a CPU mound visit which is a little strange to me. I think if they just do some minor tweaking to the formula to make situation not matter quite as much we will see better results. I think it's very heavily weighted and should just be dropped slightly.

[EWRMETS]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

This is good to see, and I have seen similar results in 1-0 or 2-1 games. I played the Tigers and was up 1-0 on a 3rd inning bloop single and Verlander went 7 and threw 92 pitches. On the flip side I faced the Pirates and Nova was up 4-0 and at 78 pitches through 6 and they pulled him. I think it has a ton to do with stamina rating which is fine but I think they need to do something to tweak it and make stamina not the most deciding factor. It needs to be available stamina remaining, then situation, then pitch count. If a guy is at 80 pitches or so, has say 30% of his stamina left and is up 3-2 then he should stay in, no matter the inning unless he gets into trouble, say a runner on 2nd with less than 2 out. I also think pitchers who come out for another inning after hitting 80 pitches and then walk the first guy they face should be taken out. I have also yet to see a CPU mound visit which is a little strange to me. I think if they just do some minor tweaking to the formula to make situation not matter quite as much we will see better results. I think it's very heavily weighted and should just be dropped slightly.

I looked at Nova's pitch logs: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...&t=p&year=2016

In your situation, maybe he should have stayed in but most of his outings he threw in the 70s or 80s. He's below average so if you get 6 innings from him you take it.

[HypoLuxa13]

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An interesting situation I just want to report on -
I started a Mariners franchise yesterday, and in the opening day game at Houston, I lit up Keuchal in the 1st and 2nd inning - 6 runs on 6 hits and a walk. I had him up to 48 pitches through 2 innings but they didn't pull him. Then he retired 8 in a row (last out of 2nd, 1-2-3 3rd and 4th innings, 1st out in the 5th). His pitch count was at around 70. A ground ball up the middle for a base hit, and they immediately pulled him. I thought this was odd in a way since he had settled in and was cruising. But expected given his overall totals 6 ER, 7 hits, and a walk.

Then, they bring in a releiver, Brady Rodgers I think. And he proceeds to pitch the rest of the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th inning for them. I managed only 2 more hits and 1 more walk against Rodgers, his pitch count ended around 60 pitches. And we get Matt's soon to be too repetitive line of "And he's in his 5th inning of work out of the bullpen now. You just don't see that much anymore" (or whatever Matt says).

[jtshurtleff]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

An interesting situation I just want to report on -
I started a Mariners franchise yesterday, and in the opening day game at Houston, I lit up Keuchal in the 1st and 2nd inning - 6 runs on 6 hits and a walk. I had him up to 48 pitches through 2 innings but they didn't pull him. Then he retired 8 in a row (last out of 2nd, 1-2-3 3rd and 4th innings, 1st out in the 5th). His pitch count was at around 70. A ground ball up the middle for a base hit, and they immediately pulled him. I thought this was odd in a way since he had settled in and was cruising. But expected given his overall totals 6 ER, 7 hits, and a walk.

Then, they bring in a releiver, Brady Rodgers I think. And he proceeds to pitch the rest of the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th inning for them. I managed only 2 more hits and 1 more walk against Rodgers, his pitch count ended around 60 pitches. And we get Matt's soon to be too repetitive line of "And he's in his 5th inning of work out of the bullpen now. You just don't see that much anymore" (or whatever Matt says).

This happened in my first game of franchise. Lit up the started for 8 runs in 3.1 innings, guy came out of the bullpen and went 4.2 innings and then got pulled. He actually gave up 3 more runs and threw 71 pitches. It was very odd.

[CleveCluby]

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Well it seems obvious that there is a problem. Some posters don't feel there is one but from what I have read, the majority of us do. Rather it's a patch or an adjustment, I feel it needs to be addressed. I know it can be fixed because the starter problem did not exist in 16. I have faith that the devs are aware of it by now and will address it. Other than a few other glitches, I think the game is awesome.

Personally I can play it in season or live, But with the SP problem, I can't enjoy franchise until this is fixed. Like everyone else I hope they don't over adjust it but the pitching logic is way out of wack. Even if the Pitching HOOK slider would work that would at least be a work around, but as I said, it does not seem to have an affect regardless of the setting. Or even adjusting stamina.

So I guess all we can do is wait and see, But they have always supported this game and I really think they will make an effort to fix it. I just hope it comes soon. I would like to start or even resume my franchise.

[countryboy]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Out of curiosity, has anyone experienced this issue while playing a carryover franchise game?

[miamikb2001]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Out of curiosity, has anyone experienced this issue while playing a carryover franchise game?

Yes it exists in carryover as well I been playing mine from last year.Honestly i think it just needs a slight tweak not a ton as some would probaly like.


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[Ebpmd]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I've seen it also in carry over '75 season.

[countryboy]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Thanks guys.

I figured it did just wanted to check.

[squashbuggie]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Thanks guys.

I figured it did just wanted to check.

yes, do these kinda edits per pitcher ability and it fixes issue:

Stamina - 99 - elite

95 - very good

90 - good

85 - solid and reliable

80 - average

75 - good prospect (higher if they are over 21-yrs. old)

70 - basic prospect

CG/SHO is still realistic.

this will fix the problem and people should just do these edits and stop complaining.

thanks and enjoy

[countryboy]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

yes, do these kinda edits per pitcher ability and it fixes issue:

Stamina - 99 - elite

95 - very good

90 - good

85 - solid and reliable

80 - average

75 - good prospect (higher if they are over 21-yrs. old)

70 - basic prospect

CG/SHO is still realistic.

this will fix the problem and people should just do these edits and stop complaining.

thanks and enjoy

Question, does this need to be done for simulated games as well? In other words, does the SP being pulled early effect simulated games or is it only games that are actually played.

And if you need to do this for every pitcher, that is a very tall task, especially if SCEA patches the issue, because then you'll have to go back and edit the pitchers a second time.

[Ebpmd]

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I have tried those edits fir my carry over 75 season and it makes a big difference. More so with regular counts. Lesser degree with QC. Seen starters going into at least 7th if not longer and routinely throwing 100+ pitches. My only fear is what happens if they do patch this and we've made the stamina corrections??? Are you required to download patch?

[countryboy]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I have tried those edits fir my carry over 75 season and it makes a big difference. More so with regular counts. Lesser degree with QC. Seen starters going into at least 7th if not longer and routinely throwing 100+ pitches. My only fear is what happens if they do patch this and we've made the stamina corrections??? Are you required to download patch?

If you want to have access to online portions of this game (cards, DD, Conquest, online games, etc...) then yes you'll have to download the patch.

If you don't care, then you can always bypass the patch

[mkulick25]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

yes, do these kinda edits per pitcher ability and it fixes issue:

Stamina - 99 - elite

95 - very good

90 - good

85 - solid and reliable

80 - average

75 - good prospect (higher if they are over 21-yrs. old)

70 - basic prospect

CG/SHO is still realistic.

this will fix the problem and people should just do these edits and stop complaining.

thanks and enjoy

I'm sorry but I am not going to manually adjust the stamina for hundreds of starting pitchers. There has to be an easier way and I believe that it'll get resolved in a patch. If you have a current roster that is available with these stamina edits that you can share with the rest of us that would be great.

[bcruise]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

CPU game: Sonny Gray



Situation. Is. Everything.

Large lead, so he gets more of a buffer. Even let him stay in with a runner on (I was surprised to see that, figured he was gone for sure when that happened). The hook came to start the 7th, 6 IP 1 ER 2 BB 7 K

No stamina edits. Still default sliders except contact.