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  • ZoltanZ
    Rookie
    • Apr 2015
    • 196

    #121
    Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

    Honestly, I have seen it both ways. I have seen the CPU pull a pitcher in the bottom of the 6th, right after the pitcher made the final out by striking out in the top of the 6th. I have also seen the CPU keep pitchers into the 8th inning if their pitch count was low or if they have a nice lead.

    This always annoyed my in 16 with my RTTS SP. It seemed like the manager would give me the hook as soon as I gave up a hit after the 5th inning. So much so, that I rarely got a win because the bullpen would blow it. That is why I am holding off on a RTTS SP right now until there is more clarity.

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    • squashbuggie
      Banned
      • Dec 2016
      • 371

      #122
      Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

      Originally posted by mkulick25
      I'm sorry but I am not going to manually adjust the stamina for hundreds of starting pitchers. There has to be an easier way and I believe that it'll get resolved in a patch. If you have a current roster that is available with these stamina edits that you can share with the rest of us that would be great.
      I politely disagree. lol. I have revamped and perfected the 1994 roster of phil parent and that is almost complete with SP edits. it does not take very long at all. I will likely carry over the OSFM 16 into the 17 season and edit that and the 07 roster (maybe) will I am in a season file. so, no current file to share,

      thanks and enjoy

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      • Ebpmd
        MVP
        • Dec 2013
        • 1191

        #123
        Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

        For classic 25 man rosters editing the starting pitches only took 15-20 minutes. Really wasn't a big deal. You don't need to edit relievers. Obviously more time consuming with 90 man rosters. For my classic season I felt it well worth the time.

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        • squashbuggie
          Banned
          • Dec 2016
          • 371

          #124
          Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

          Originally posted by bcruise
          CPU game: Sonny Gray



          Situation. Is. Everything.

          Large lead, so he gets more of a buffer. Even let him stay in with a runner on (I was surprised to see that, figured he was gone for sure when that happened). The hook came to start the 7th, 6 IP 1 ER 2 BB 7 K

          No stamina edits. Still default sliders except contact.
          very cool. I only pitch and never hit vs cpu. the stamina edits are WELL worth the minimal time it takes. Great work as always. bcruse.

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          • CleveCluby
            Pro
            • Feb 2003
            • 808

            #125
            Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

            I am sorry squashbuggie. I completely disagree with you. At least on my end. It is not a stamina issue. It may help in certain situations but it does not prevent them from pulling the pitcher. I have seen them pull the pitcher in the 5th inning when his energy is nearly half full, 60 pitches even when his stamina is in the high 80's and he is labeled a WORKHORSE. It is an issues with pitching logic.

            As many believe, I think it is just a matter of some minor adjustments but it is an issue that needs addressed. I really wish there was a work around but if there is I haven't found it. And I have tried everything I can think of, Including raising the stamina. It wasn't a problem in 16, although there were some problems with logic in 16, this wasn't one of them. And as far as complaining. People have every right to complain, Some people rant and rave about these situations, but in this case I think the post have been very informative and well constructed.

            A complaint is a complaint, but in this case, Many,many people see it as an issue with the game and are talking about it in hopes of finding a resolution. The more people who report it, the more it may be looked into and the quicker it may be resolved. So please don't tell people to quit complaining. As long as they do it in a constructive manner, I believe they have every right too. We do spend money on a product and I think everyone posting on here has been helpful.
            When I do something right, No one ever remembers.
            When I do something wrong, No one ever forgets.!

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            • squashbuggie
              Banned
              • Dec 2016
              • 371

              #126
              Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

              Originally posted by CleveCluby
              I am sorry squashbuggie. I completely disagree with you. At least on my end. It is not a stamina issue. It may help in certain situations but it does not prevent them from pulling the pitcher. I have seen them pull the pitcher in the 5th inning when his energy is nearly half full, 60 pitches even when his stamina is in the high 80's and he is labeled a WORKHORSE. It is an issues with pitching logic.

              As many believe, I think it is just a matter of some minor adjustments but it is an issue that needs addressed. I really wish there was a work around but if there is I haven't found it. And I have tried everything I can think of, Including raising the stamina. It wasn't a problem in 16, although there were some problems with logic in 16, this wasn't one of them. And as far as complaining. People have every right to complain, Some people rant and rave about these situations, but in this case I think the post have been very informative and well constructed.

              A complaint is a complaint, but in this case, Many,many people see it as an issue with the game and are talking about it in hopes of finding a resolution. The more people who report it, the more it may be looked into and the quicker it may be resolved. So please don't tell people to quit complaining. As long as they do it in a constructive manner, I believe they have every right too. We do spend money on a product and I think everyone posting on here has been helpful.
              you are right and see, I never bat vs cpu and only pitch and sim games. I misunderstood the issue. however, stamina edits to SP does really help the sim stats. thx for the correction

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              • Ebpmd
                MVP
                • Dec 2013
                • 1191

                #127
                Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                I think most agree this is an issue. Does anyone know if "they" acknowledge that there is a problem and do they plan on fixing it. Changing stamina or not... the ideal solution is to fix the problem. They are usually quite good at taking care of things so I'd figure a fix will eventually come. Hopefully sooner as opposed to later.

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                • Bullit
                  Bacon is Better
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5004

                  #128
                  Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                  Miami just pulled the starter in the 5th after 80+ pitches to go to the bullpen.

                  LOL Sorry really not trying to Troll. I just thought it was really funny. My first thought was "Hey isn't that what the folks on OS are trying to fix."

                  I am really not trying to take anything away from you guys and I hope you can figure something out that works for you. I just am not having an issue with it.
                  I probably should not even post it, but hope you all take it as it was intended. Just trying to lighten things up a bit.
                  In Loving memory of my "Cricket" 1/2/96 - 11/19/2012

                  My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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                  • bcruise
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23274

                    #129
                    Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                    Originally posted by Bullit
                    Miami just pulled the starter in the 5th after 80+ pitches to go to the bullpen.

                    LOL Sorry really not trying to Troll. I just thought it was really funny. My first thought was "Hey isn't that what the folks on OS are trying to fix."

                    I am really not trying to take anything away from you guys and I hope you can figure something out that works for you. I just am not having an issue with it.
                    I probably should not even post it, but hope you all take it as it was intended. Just trying to lighten things up a bit.
                    Wow, that's only a 2-1 game. It really is exactly what we're talking about here.

                    Nats with the bullpen up and Strasburg at ~80 pitches.
                    Last edited by bcruise; 04-03-2017, 02:04 PM.

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                    • mikekilc
                      Just started!
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 2

                      #130
                      Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                      Went through 3 test games and the CPU seems to have an even keeled approach to the SP's. It left Tanaka in the game at 114 pitches against the Rays with the Yankees up 3-2 (assuming that had something to do with his "Workhorse" quirk). Bucholz was left in the game until the mid 6th when he gave up a grand slam to Eugenio Suarez (ineffective pull), and then Chase Anderson had thrown 87 pitches into the mid 6th and was in the yellow on his energy meter.

                      It really seems that the stamina is a huge part of the CPU's decision making this year and quirks can influence the formula it uses. Im a fan

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                      • Will I Am
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 931

                        #131
                        Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                        Originally posted by Bullit
                        Miami just pulled the starter in the 5th after 80+ pitches to go to the bullpen.

                        LOL Sorry really not trying to Troll. I just thought it was really funny. My first thought was "Hey isn't that what the folks on OS are trying to fix."

                        I am really not trying to take anything away from you guys and I hope you can figure something out that works for you. I just am not having an issue with it.
                        I probably should not even post it, but hope you all take it as it was intended. Just trying to lighten things up a bit.
                        Opening day.

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                        • RoyceDa59
                          Chillin
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 3830

                          #132
                          Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                          I am not seeing an issue with this in right now as I actually like it. I have seen a pitcher (Ubaldo) give up 3 runs and 4 walks in by the 3rd inning a got pulled by the CPU.

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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #133
                            Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                            Originally posted by Will I Am
                            Opening day.
                            Martinez, Lester, and Archer all threw over 100 pitches yesterday.

                            Your point? (unless I'm misunderstanding the Opening Day comment).

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                            • djep
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1128

                              #134
                              Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                              Played the first 9 games in the my Yankees franchise, 6 of which were against the Rays. Nate Eovaldi pitched in relief in all 6 games, throwing 19.2 innings.

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                              • Will I Am
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 931

                                #135
                                Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                                Originally posted by bcruise
                                Martinez, Lester, and Archer all threw over 100 pitches yesterday.

                                Your point? (unless I'm misunderstanding the Opening Day comment).
                                Exactly my point and Volquez isn't exactly a true #1. You also cannot point to one example.

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