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  • yanks22009
    Rookie
    • Jan 2012
    • 121

    #361
    Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

    I think I may have found a work around for the people who like to use QC but feel turned off due to pitchers coming out in the 4th/5th/6th innings while dealing.


    Currently, I am in my Yankees franchise playing against the Rays with Matt Andriese on the mound. Through 4 innings, I had only mustered 3 hits off of him.


    In the 5th inning, I saw the pop up that Jumbo Diaz was warming up in the bullpen. So I decided to go to switch the the rays, and I sat down both of the relievers that were warming up. I switched back to the Yanks and then flew out with Castro. Next guy up, the same two relievers were warming up. So i did it again and switched to the rays and sat the relievers down and then switched back and finished the at bat.


    I've noticed that once you get to the 5th inning, the CPU will start warming relievers up after every batter if you use this method, but I am now in the 7th inning and Andriese is still in the game with 67 pitches. I will see how long I am able to keep him in the game using this method.'

    Edit:
    The Rays brought in Jumbo Diaz in the bottom of the 8th inning just now. I'm not sure if he was warming up before the last out of the top of the 8th, but I will have to check into that the next time. Another possible solution would be to switch to the rays right after the last out of the top of the 8th happens. But I am encouraged to see Andriese make it through 7 innings using this strategy.
    Last edited by yanks22009; 04-11-2017, 06:13 PM.

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    • forme95
      MVP
      • Nov 2013
      • 3118

      #362
      Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

      My problem isn't the starting pitchers. They have been good for the most part. My issue is occasionally, not often, but it has happened. The manager will leave the reliever in there when he is being rocketed on (one game for one inning for 9 runs. Small ball, not even hr's) no confidence and still leaves him out there. It's a rare occurance, and has only happened a few times, but it does mess up the immersion into the game.

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      • ninertravel
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 4833

        #363
        Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

        I have tried everything I give up, the game is rigged soon as it get's to the 5th innings the runs start happening the hits start happening and the walks, and then the CPU pulls the starter as soon as someone is on base then the flood gates open, it can be 0-0 with no hits untill the 5th innings then the base runners get on base and the CPU has a heart attack and pulls the starter and we get a 10-8 game

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        • ninertravel
          MVP
          • Aug 2015
          • 4833

          #364
          Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

          If you wanna know how to get around it, you have to move your controller to the CPU team after every single at bat from the 5th innings and then move back to your team . that way it stops the CPU from making a ******* change./ it is the ONLY fix right now. I was able to make Chris sale go 8 innings and lost the game 2-1 from doing this, if I didn't he would have been pulled and I would have won the game 8-2

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          • CleveCluby
            Pro
            • Feb 2003
            • 808

            #365
            Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

            Originally posted by yanks22009
            I think I may have found a work around for the people who like to use QC but feel turned off due to pitchers coming out in the 4th/5th/6th innings while dealing.


            Currently, I am in my Yankees franchise playing against the Rays with Matt Andriese on the mound. Through 4 innings, I had only mustered 3 hits off of him.


            In the 5th inning, I saw the pop up that Jumbo Diaz was warming up in the bullpen. So I decided to go to switch the the rays, and I sat down both of the relievers that were warming up. I switched back to the Yanks and then flew out with Castro. Next guy up, the same two relievers were warming up. So i did it again and switched to the rays and sat the relievers down and then switched back and finished the at bat.


            I've noticed that once you get to the 5th inning, the CPU will start warming relievers up after every batter if you use this method, but I am now in the 7th inning and Andriese is still in the game with 67 pitches. I will see how long I am able to keep him in the game using this method.'

            Edit:
            The Rays brought in Jumbo Diaz in the bottom of the 8th inning just now. I'm not sure if he was warming up before the last out of the top of the 8th, but I will have to check into that the next time. Another possible solution would be to switch to the rays right after the last out of the top of the 8th happens. But I am encouraged to see Andriese make it through 7 innings using this strategy.
            I'm glad that is working for you. I have tried that several times, As soon as I see them put up relievers, ( I use two controllers and leave theirs in the middle ) I go set them down. and put controller back in the middle.

            I have even tried switching teams after 2 outs and bat for the CPU team making sure that I have control when the inning ends so that they can't put in relief. As soon as I switch back to my team, they pitch to that batter and then put in relief with out having anyone in there bullpen..

            Now here's the thing, They have done this a couple of times and even though their starter is still in the game the announcer will say they brought in relief from the pen. And on the very next batter. They do. I honestly don't believe there is a work around for this issue. i have tried every thing I can possibly think of. Nothing has worked consistently. I believe only a patch is gonna fix this.
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            • ninertravel
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 4833

              #366
              Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

              Just to counter this not only does this have a problem with starting pitchers, it has a problem with Closers, I have seen the CPU pull a closer 5 times now in a 1 run game because he has put 2 runners on base, rather then get the final out and save the CPU panics and puts in some other guy to get that 1 out and save, which leaves to even more blown saves.

              I believe they screwed up the A1 this year because they focused to much on the whole lefty v lefty matchups so far to many changes happen now when they shouldn't, that is why players warm up in the BP early because the A1 logic looks at your lineup and sees the whole lefty matchup

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              • yanks22009
                Rookie
                • Jan 2012
                • 121

                #367
                Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                Originally posted by CleveCluby
                I'm glad that is working for you. I have tried that several times, As soon as I see them put up relievers, ( I use two controllers and leave theirs in the middle ) I go set them down. and put controller back in the middle.

                I have even tried switching teams after 2 outs and bat for the CPU team making sure that I have control when the inning ends so that they can't put in relief. As soon as I switch back to my team, they pitch to that batter and then put in relief with out having anyone in there bullpen..

                Now here's the thing, They have done this a couple of times and even though their starter is still in the game the announcer will say they brought in relief from the pen. And on the very next batter. They do. I honestly don't believe there is a work around for this issue. i have tried every thing I can possibly think of. Nothing has worked consistently. I believe only a patch is gonna fix this.
                Yeah just had a game now against the Cardinals and Micheal Wacha got pulled in the 4th inning even though I was doing what I thought was a workaround. The CPU did a mound visit and then right after that pulled Wacha

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                • ninertravel
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 4833

                  #368
                  Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                  Originally posted by CleveCluby
                  I'm glad that is working for you. I have tried that several times, As soon as I see them put up relievers, ( I use two controllers and leave theirs in the middle ) I go set them down. and put controller back in the middle.

                  I have even tried switching teams after 2 outs and bat for the CPU team making sure that I have control when the inning ends so that they can't put in relief. As soon as I switch back to my team, they pitch to that batter and then put in relief with out having anyone in there bullpen..

                  Now here's the thing, They have done this a couple of times and even though their starter is still in the game the announcer will say they brought in relief from the pen. And on the very next batter. They do. I honestly don't believe there is a work around for this issue. i have tried every thing I can possibly think of. Nothing has worked consistently. I believe only a patch is gonna fix this.
                  It can be done, as soon as you play your at bat, if you get out, get on base or whatever quickly switch the other control to their team, because thankfully this year you can pause the game during a animation last year you couldn't switch to them, wait till the animation finish and your about to take your next pitch, switch back to your own team again and then take your at back, and rince and repeat till you feel that the CPU should be pulling a starter. you gotta change the controller before each at bat and then stops the CPU from warming up a player in the BP and making a change at all.

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                  • ninertravel
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 4833

                    #369
                    Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                    Originally posted by Bullit
                    No Quick Counts, No Quick Manage. Playing every inning default everything at All Star
                    I wish I was getting your results then I don't use Quick counts, unless the score is 8-0 the CPU will always pull a pitcher in the 5th innings, and I never see them get past the 6th EVER. unless it is a blowout.

                    the issue is the AI is not going by the stamina or pitch counts, it goes by 2 things, the score in the game, and the righty and lefty matchup new logic they have in the game.

                    Which btw that is another issue the righy left matchup thing is crap, because I can pinch hit after the CPU puts in a lefty against a left, I can pinch hit for a righty, the rules state I should not be able to do this, SCEA have to look into that pinch hitting rule

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                    • bobeureally27
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 760

                      #370
                      Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                      Originally posted by ninertravel
                      I wish I was getting your results then I don't use Quick counts, unless the score is 8-0 the CPU will always pull a pitcher in the 5th innings, and I never see them get past the 6th EVER. unless it is a blowout.



                      the issue is the AI is not going by the stamina or pitch counts, it goes by 2 things, the score in the game, and the righty and lefty matchup new logic they have in the game.



                      Which btw that is another issue the righy left matchup thing is crap, because I can pinch hit after the CPU puts in a lefty against a left, I can pinch hit for a righty, the rules state I should not be able to do this, SCEA have to look into that pinch hitting rule



                      There's no rule broken by pinch hitting after the other team brings in a new pitcher. Happens all the time...


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                      • KnightTemplar
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 3282

                        #371
                        Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                        Originally posted by ninertravel
                        I wish I was getting your results then I don't use Quick counts, unless the score is 8-0 the CPU will always pull a pitcher in the 5th innings, and I never see them get past the 6th EVER. unless it is a blowout.

                        the issue is the AI is not going by the stamina or pitch counts, it goes by 2 things, the score in the game, and the righty and lefty matchup new logic they have in the game.

                        Which btw that is another issue the righy left matchup thing is crap, because I can pinch hit after the CPU puts in a lefty against a left, I can pinch hit for a righty, the rules state I should not be able to do this, SCEA have to look into that pinch hitting rule
                        6, 5, 9, 2.2, 4.2, 5, 7, 4, 5, 6, 7...CPU SP first 11
                        games. I look at the box scores and don't see anything unreasonable. Use only QCs.

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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27738

                          #372
                          Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                          Originally posted by ninertravel
                          Which btw that is another issue the righy left matchup thing is crap, because I can pinch hit after the CPU puts in a lefty against a left, I can pinch hit for a righty, the rules state I should not be able to do this, SCEA have to look into that pinch hitting rule
                          Actually, you do. You can absolutely pinch hit after a pitching change and it's a very common practice.
                          Last edited by kehlis; 04-11-2017, 10:10 PM.

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                          • ninertravel
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 4833

                            #373
                            Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                            hang on a minute so your saying that the rule is the manger knows before hand who the batter is gonna be before they bring a pitcher in ? or is it the other way around. I thought Houston got in trouble for this a couple of years ago. where they couldn't change the pitcher after they found out a lefty was in. or something like that.

                            so your saying a real life a lefty comes out to face another lefty then all of a sudden a manager can hook that lefty for a righty batter?? because I have never seen that happen I thought by the rule was they had to face that 1 at bat.

                            just on the game point of view too i wish we could in advance pinch hit, seems strange hearing the commentator saying someone is coming in to bat and they go to the plate then you pinch hit them,, no big deal just a presentation thing.

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                            • bobeureally27
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 760

                              #374
                              Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                              Originally posted by ninertravel
                              hang on a minute so your saying that the rule is the manger knows before hand who the batter is gonna be before they bring a pitcher in ? or is it the other way around. I thought Houston got in trouble for this a couple of years ago. where they couldn't change the pitcher after they found out a lefty was in. or something like that.



                              so your saying a real life a lefty comes out to face another lefty then all of a sudden a manager can hook that lefty for a righty batter?? because I have never seen that happen I thought by the rule was they had to face that 1 at bat.



                              just on the game point of view too i wish we could in advance pinch hit, seems strange hearing the commentator saying someone is coming in to bat and they go to the plate then you pinch hit them,, no big deal just a presentation thing.


                              The rule that you are thinking of is a pitcher who enters the game must face one batter. With all due respect, you must not have watched much baseball if you have never seen a pinch hitter when a new pitcher comes in. Happens all the time.


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                              • ninertravel
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 4833

                                #375
                                Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                                Originally posted by bobeureally27
                                The rule that you are thinking of is a pitcher who enters the game must face one batter. With all due respect, you must not have watched much baseball if you have never seen a pinch hitter when a new pitcher comes in. Happens all the time.


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                                Your not understanding what I mean, have you ever seen a batter come to the plate start off 0-2 then get pinched hit???? I have never seen a manager do that, on MLB the show you can do that. then who you pinch hit for starts on a 0- 2 count this NEVER happens in the majors (QC actually screw this up even more)

                                but yes I think that is the rule I was thinking of.

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