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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52791

    #16
    Re: 18 news?

    Originally posted by KnightTemplar
    Except you will lose a TON of players who SDS has taken out of the game when you finish a season and continue to the next year . They need to expand the FA list big time.
    I don't remember losing that many players. And its really no big deal to go back in and add them to the game. Their attributes don't change, just the name.
    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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    • TheKnack
      Contributor
      • Aug 2011
      • 758

      #17
      Re: 18 news?

      Originally posted by The Kid 24
      So where's this trailer?
      There is no trailer. Just another example of an internet journalist trying to break news that doesn't exist.

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      • Speedy
        #Ace
        • Apr 2008
        • 16143

        #18
        Re: 18 news?

        Maybe it's me but I'm expecting to be blown away for 2018. The past two years have felt underwhelming, especially last year, and I believe without a doubt that the dev team is going to make it right.

        Given the feedback last year, I really think they input a TON of focus surrounding franchise mode. There was brief signs of it the past couple of years with chemistry and more stats involved...I hope that maybe they got a sponsorship with Fangraphs or something to where franchise has much more immersion and makes the user spend more time being a GM than playing the game! OOTP built a great formula, I think SCEA needs to steal a bit of it.

        Maybe it will be new player models, maybe even create a stadium...that would be add-ons but I truly think franchise mode will be completely changed and make 2018 a must buy.
        Originally posted by Gibson88
        Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
        It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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        • GoDucks1224
          MVP
          • Jul 2012
          • 2623

          #19
          18 news?

          Originally posted by Speedy
          Maybe it's me but I'm expecting to be blown away for 2018. The past two years have felt underwhelming, especially last year, and I believe without a doubt that the dev team is going to make it right.

          Given the feedback last year, I really think they input a TON of focus surrounding franchise mode. There was brief signs of it the past couple of years with chemistry and more stats involved...I hope that maybe they got a sponsorship with Fangraphs or something to where franchise has much more immersion and makes the user spend more time being a GM than playing the game! OOTP built a great formula, I think SCEA needs to steal a bit of it.

          Maybe it will be new player models, maybe even create a stadium...that would be add-ons but I truly think franchise mode will be completely changed and make 2018 a must buy.


          I think you’re being way too ambitious lol. I’m quite positive they won’t be paying Fangraphs or vice versa. And I still doubt franchise will be a focus. The money is in DD and RTTS.

          They made it sound pretty clear that stadium creator won’t be in any time remotely soon.

          I personally expect some minor tweaks to franchise, improvements to the ball physics, and a heavy emphasis on DD and RTTS. I sincerely hope they fix some of the issues with middle infielders and their inability to run down grounders up the middle, the base runners who dive into 3rd on plays they should be rounding on and scoring (ever notice the amount of players who dive into third on line drives in the gaps or balls up the middle? Happens so frequently for me, and ruins my rallies or run production), catchers dropping the ball frequently, wild pitches on basically anything in the dirt, CPU baserunners seemingly automatically taking a base when a ball is dropped (catcher alwaysssss seems to throw it to the wrong side of the bag or the throw is lazy) regardless of their speed, the seemingly automatic contact made on hit and run plays by the CPU (it seems like it’s either always a foul or a successful hit), also seems like there are a lot of times where a CPU runner who is too slow rounds third when they shouldn’t and the throw Home is offline like 75% of the time (it really feels like the game compensated for the CPU’s bad decision making sometimes). I dunno. I liked 17, but these things I’m mentioning really hampered it for me. No MLB The Show game in the past has ever made me even remotely consider the possibility of it being scripted in some way until this one. Every game always had something stupid happen. Sometimes it benefitted me, but not often. Maybe I’m just paranoid because of Madden/FIFA/NHL/NBA2K (less so) and their ‘momentum’ shifts (aka, scripting). But man, I seriously cannot remember a single moment in previous Shows where I ever sat there and remotely flirted with a single fleeting thought that it was scripted. This year just felt... Off. Different.
          Last edited by GoDucks1224; 12-14-2017, 02:46 AM.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52791

            #20
            Re: 18 news?

            Originally posted by Speedy
            Maybe it's me but I'm expecting to be blown away for 2018. The past two years have felt underwhelming, especially last year, and I believe without a doubt that the dev team is going to make it right.

            Given the feedback last year, I really think they input a TON of focus surrounding franchise mode. There was brief signs of it the past couple of years with chemistry and more stats involved...I hope that maybe they got a sponsorship with Fangraphs or something to where franchise has much more immersion and makes the user spend more time being a GM than playing the game! OOTP built a great formula, I think SCEA needs to steal a bit of it.

            Maybe it will be new player models, maybe even create a stadium...that would be add-ons but I truly think franchise mode will be completely changed and make 2018 a must buy.
            I agree as I have the same expectations as you do in terms of '18.

            With '17 I felt that the devs took a big swing trying to knock it out of the park and just hooked it foul. For me, there was a lot to like about '17, but it just needed a little more "tuning". I fully expect them to polish what they added this year and also take another big swing at '18, and this time I'm thinking its coming in the way of franchise mode.

            Obviously this is all speculation and anticipation, and no one, outside of SDS, knows exactly what's in store for '18, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited and anxious to see what's in store and to get my hands on '18.
            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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            • KnightTemplar
              MVP
              • Feb 2017
              • 3282

              #21
              Re: 18 news?

              Originally posted by countryboy
              I agree as I have the same expectations as you do in terms of '18.

              With '17 I felt that the devs took a big swing trying to knock it out of the park and just hooked it foul. For me, there was a lot to like about '17, but it just needed a little more "tuning". I fully expect them to polish what they added this year and also take another big swing at '18, and this time I'm thinking its coming in the way of franchise mode.

              Obviously this is all speculation and anticipation, and no one, outside of SDS, knows exactly what's in store for '18, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited and anxious to see what's in store and to get my hands on '18.
              All speculation, but, based on history I'm not expecting much. If they add some new mode, a new "selling point", then I expect the same old historical problems with the game. This game is beyond the point where it should be running smooth as silk ( game play wise). The carry over franchise was great, but you're going to lose a ton of players when you start your next season (and not talking about the retirees). Can't this be addressed?

              I love the game, but love it scratching my head sometimes.

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52791

                #22
                Re: 18 news?

                Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                All speculation, but, based on history I'm not expecting much. If they add some new mode, a new "selling point", then I expect the same old historical problems with the game. This game is beyond the point where it should be running smooth as silk ( game play wise). The carry over franchise was great, but you're going to lose a ton of players when you start your next season (and not talking about the retirees). Can't this be addressed?

                I love the game, but love it scratching my head sometimes.
                You keep bringing up the idea of losing a "ton" of players when doing carryover saves, but I don't have that problem, unless you and I have a different idea on how many is a "ton". How many players do you lose per carryover save? Maybe being at different years within the franchise causes one to lose more than others???

                I've been doing carryover saves since it was introduced and I've never lost, anywhere near what I would consider a ton. Maybe 20 is the most??? And as I've stated previously, it doesn't take that long to re-add the players that do disappear because the only thing that changes is their name. I just go back in, edit their name and move on. Takes 10-15 minutes tops.
                Last edited by countryboy; 12-14-2017, 01:03 PM. Reason: Omitted a sentence
                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                • KnightTemplar
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 3282

                  #23
                  Re: 18 news?

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  You keep bringing up the idea of losing a "ton" of players when doing carryover saves, but I don't have that problem, unless you and I have a different idea on how many is a "ton". How many players do you lose per carryover save? Maybe being at different years within the franchise causes one to lose more than others???

                  I've been doing carryover saves since it was introduced and I've never lost, anywhere near what I would consider a ton. Maybe 20 is the most??? And as I've stated previously, it doesn't take that long to re-add the players that do disappear because the only thing that changes is their name. I just go back in, edit their name and move on. Takes 10-15 minutes tops.
                  Can always look to you
                  to not see problems. I keep bringing it up? What this is twice I’ve said it? Maybe you should think more about how you respond to people who adress some of their concerns other than you don’t have a problem with it. Gets old. I already said I love the game.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52791

                    #24
                    Re: 18 news?

                    Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                    Can always look to you
                    to not see problems. I keep bringing it up? What this is twice I’ve said it? Maybe you should think more about how you respond to people who adress some of their concerns other than you don’t have a problem with it. Gets old. I already said I love the game.
                    WTF are you talking about???

                    I asked how many players you're losing per season. I even mentioned that we could be seeing the same amount just have a different idea of what a constitutes a "ton". I even mentioned that it could be because we advance to different stages of franchise in the current installment that it causes us to see things differently.

                    So instead of answering those questions so that we can accurately discuss the issue, you choose to label me essentially as a fanboy and avoid having a discussion about the issue?

                    I guess we know where you stand.
                    Last edited by countryboy; 12-14-2017, 03:11 PM.
                    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                    • KnightTemplar
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 3282

                      #25
                      Re: 18 news?

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      WTF are you talking about???

                      I asked how many players you're losing per season. I even mentioned that we could be seeing the same amount just have a different idea of what a constitutes a "ton". I even mentioned that it could be because we advance to different stages of franchise in the current installment that it causes us to see things differently.

                      So instead of answering those questions so that we can accurately discuss the issue, you choose to label me essentially as a fanboy and avoid having a discussion about the issue?

                      I guess we know where you stand.
                      Dude, calm down, lol. You confirmed what I said, but weren't happy with my innocent use of the word "ton". How about "a lot". I don't like jumping thru hoops (changing names, changing faces, etc) and was asking if there was a fix (not from you though). Twenty, in my book, is too many. For you.....no.

                      The "fan boy" statement by you is fairly close though.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52791

                        #26
                        Re: 18 news?

                        Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                        Dude, calm down, lol. You confirmed what I said, but weren't happy with my innocent use of the word "ton". How about "a lot". I don't like jumping thru hoops (changing names, changing faces, etc) and was asking if there was a fix (not from you though). Twenty, in my book, is too many. For you.....no.
                        I never denied what you said, just trying to better understand your issue.

                        Nothing to do with not being happy, but trying to understand your broad stroke in describing your issue.

                        And you and I have a different idea on the quantity of a ton. For me, spending 15-20 minutes to add back in players lost in the carryover is worth it given that it allows me to continue a franchise that I've invested heavily in. Different strokes for different folks.

                        The "fan boy" statement by you is fairly close though.
                        If viewing an issue differently than you, and/or others, means I'm a fanboy, then I guess I'm a fanboy.
                        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10986

                          #27
                          Re: 18 news?

                          Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                          Dude, calm down, lol. You confirmed what I said, but weren't happy with my innocent use of the word "ton". How about "a lot". I don't like jumping thru hoops (changing names, changing faces, etc) and was asking if there was a fix (not from you though). Twenty, in my book, is too many. For you.....no.

                          The "fan boy" statement by you is fairly close though.
                          I know countryboy usually loves the Show (as do I) but there's no way he could be classified a ''fanboy'' or a even a ''homer'.
                          Evidence 17's issues and CB moving back to Show 16.

                          anyways, onward and upward: regarding news, I see its confirmed retro will be back for 18.
                          saw that in the christian post with a link to geek culture podcast FWIW
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                          • Scooter3
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 2680

                            #28
                            Re: 18 news?

                            Looking forward to 2018
                            Last edited by Scooter3; 12-14-2017, 10:04 PM.
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                            • tsbraves
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 251

                              #29
                              Re: 18 news?

                              Originally posted by GoDucks1224
                              I think you’re being way too ambitious lol. I’m quite positive they won’t be paying Fangraphs or vice versa. And I still doubt franchise will be a focus. The money is in DD and RTTS.

                              They made it sound pretty clear that stadium creator won’t be in any time remotely soon.

                              I personally expect some minor tweaks to franchise, improvements to the ball physics, and a heavy emphasis on DD and RTTS. I sincerely hope they fix some of the issues with middle infielders and their inability to run down grounders up the middle, the base runners who dive into 3rd on plays they should be rounding on and scoring (ever notice the amount of players who dive into third on line drives in the gaps or balls up the middle? Happens so frequently for me, and ruins my rallies or run production), catchers dropping the ball frequently, wild pitches on basically anything in the dirt, CPU baserunners seemingly automatically taking a base when a ball is dropped (catcher alwaysssss seems to throw it to the wrong side of the bag or the throw is lazy) regardless of their speed, the seemingly automatic contact made on hit and run plays by the CPU (it seems like it’s either always a foul or a successful hit), also seems like there are a lot of times where a CPU runner who is too slow rounds third when they shouldn’t and the throw Home is offline like 75% of the time (it really feels like the game compensated for the CPU’s bad decision making sometimes). I dunno. I liked 17, but these things I’m mentioning really hampered it for me. No MLB The Show game in the past has ever made me even remotely consider the possibility of it being scripted in some way until this one. Every game always had something stupid happen. Sometimes it benefitted me, but not often. Maybe I’m just paranoid because of Madden/FIFA/NHL/NBA2K (less so) and their ‘momentum’ shifts (aka, scripting). But man, I seriously cannot remember a single moment in previous Shows where I ever sat there and remotely flirted with a single fleeting thought that it was scripted. This year just felt... Off. Different.
                              Personally, I feel ya with your list. All the things you have mentioned I would like to see fixed. Plus ONE more: pitchers being hit by batted balls. It seems Ike it happens 2 or 3 times a game to me.

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                              • dherrera1015
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2016
                                • 141

                                #30
                                Re: 18 news?

                                Originally posted by Caulfield
                                I know countryboy usually loves the Show (as do I) but there's no way he could be classified a ''fanboy'' or a even a ''homer'.
                                Evidence 17's issues and CB moving back to Show 16.

                                anyways, onward and upward: regarding news, I see its confirmed retro will be back for 18.
                                saw that in the christian post with a link to geek culture podcast FWIW
                                Ah great. I didn't play this mode even once and I'm sure most people spent minimal time on it. I was hoping they'd take this out to create room for other aspects of the game. Maybe in '19 if they see people aren't playing it, as I'm sure less people will in '18. However, they have the stats to know how much each game mode is being played, and I could be completely wrong.

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