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  • WaitTilNextYear
    Go Cubs Go
    • Mar 2013
    • 16830

    #226
    Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

    Originally posted by KnightTemplar
    In all fairness there’s a TON of negative posts, a TON, and I still believe a lot of the game play problems are w/the gamer, and not the game. To me, a lot of it’s silly. I appreciate him because w/o some kick back this place would be nothing but another Shownation. Just look at their Facebook page, post after post of just whining, sorry, criticism.
    Yep. The truth is somewhere in the middle. It can be frustrating no matter which "side" you're on and especially when you don't consider yourself on any "side" at all. No doubt there is a bunch of "user error" and "minuscule sample size" and "my settings/TV are different than yours" problems with many criticisms of the game and these can preclude any sort of apples to apples comparison.

    It'll continue to be messy and people will continue to take offense to one another, but as long as we're obeying the almighty TOS and somewhat open to reason, that's as good as it's gonna get on the internet in this day and age, imo.

    My only point in this entire discussion was to try to get people to see how their earned reputation in this community affects the point they are trying to make. Just like nobody is going to take Coca Cola's spokesmodel seriously about the virtues of the product, nobody is going to take PepsiCo's CEO's position on Coke seriously either. There is a matter of "consider the source" that we all probably do unconsciously when reading posts in here. I'd prefer that there were no "sides" either, but a lot of people seem predisposed toward one bent or the other.
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    • KnightTemplar
      MVP
      • Feb 2017
      • 3282

      #227
      Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

      Originally posted by BegBy
      Despite me saying you white knight the game I still believe that you wish for a realistic game. I absolutely know that you help people with your streams and sliders. I've watched your games. I've used your sliders. I'm not saying that you're wrong. I just wish that when I turned on the game, I got the same results.


      I fully recognize there is user error on my part. I'm in no way shape or form suggesting otherwise. I even mentioned in a post in another thread a while back that people struggle and won't admit that it might be on them and that they play at a skill level well above their pay grade. I'm just saying that right now, no matter what I do, I can't play realistic baseball because I can't hit at all. Once you have no ability to hit, all the numbers go crazy. I'll end games with their pitcher(s) throwing 100-110 pitches a game. Their strike percentage will be around 70 because Vet is so terrible, yet I press X on a ball right down the middle, and I am lucky to see it leave the infield.


      When you're in my situation and guys like you make posts that intimate (could be me) that we're doing it wrong and the game is great and we also know that the game was/is great because just a couple of weeks ago I was having as much fun as one could have playing a video game - it's frustrating. Again...I can't win a single game. I can't hit. I don't want to beat the ball around all the time. I don't. I just want to do better than 4.6 hits per game, 0.40 homers a game, 0 triples in 20 games. I don't want to ground into a double play 7 times out of 10. I don't to know that even if by some fluke I kept them off the board that come the 6th inning they are getting hits and I am automatically done because I already have 3 of my hits and mathematically I cannot get more runs than them now.


      Patches have changed the game and from what I can tell it has made it so that I just can't hit. I'd like to be in your shoes. Unfortunately I'm stuck wearing mine.


      I'll watch some of your last few games on Twitch. Maybe I'll see something that'll help me. I appreciate your efforts, sir and just because I think you white knight the game doesn't mean I think you're wrong. They aren't mutually exclusive.
      I have a brother-in-law who LOVES baseball. He plays in a softball league, has done so for years. Came up from Mexico for a visit, saw the game and was ready to go. I put the game on ROOKIE, I put his sliders up, I threw every pitch a fastball down the center. I tried everything for him. He was really into the game, actually stood up in front of the t.v.

      He was capable of striking out 26 times a game. When he finally put a ball in play I just sighed. He’s played 3 or 4 times now. It’s painful. I don’t want him visiting anymore.

      He means well.

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      • BegBy
        Banned
        • Feb 2009
        • 1212

        #228
        Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

        Originally posted by KnightTemplar
        I have a brother-in-law who LOVES baseball. He plays in a softball league, has done so for years. Came up from Mexico for a visit, saw the game and was ready to go. I put the game on ROOKIE, I put his sliders up, I threw every pitch a fastball down the center. I tried everything for him. He was really into the game, actually stood up in front of the t.v.

        He was capable of striking out 26 times a game. When he finally put a ball in play I just sighed. He’s played 3 or 4 times now. It’s painful. I don’t want him visiting anymore.

        He means well.



        If you're saying I suck, then just say it. It's not offensive to me in any way, and probably rightly deserved. If that's not what you're saying then I have no idea what you mean.



        I'm saying prior to the last few patches I was playing on Legend, getting K'd close to 10 times a game yet still hitting. Pitchers threw on the black and nibbled. Loved it. I was still able to play and compete. Now...not so much. So going from Legend to Vet doesn't just suck because of ego - it sucks because Vet is bleh. Pitchers throw meatballs a lot more often and stats just get quite unrealistic. Seeing hanging breaking balls right down the pipe get drilled right into a fielder's glove or a weak pop fly is not enjoyable. Pretty not fun from my perspective. Let alone I'm still not winning or hitting.

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52728

          #229
          Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

          Originally posted by BegBy
          If you're saying I suck, then just say it. It's not offensive to me in any way, and probably rightly deserved. If that's not what you're saying then I have no idea what you mean.



          I'm saying prior to the last few patches I was playing on Legend, getting K'd close to 10 times a game yet still hitting. Pitchers threw on the black and nibbled. Loved it. I was still able to play and compete. Now...not so much. So going from Legend to Vet doesn't just suck because of ego - it sucks because Vet is bleh. Pitchers throw meatballs a lot more often and stats just get quite unrealistic. Seeing hanging breaking balls right down the pipe get drilled right into a fielder's glove or a weak pop fly is not enjoyable. Pretty not fun from my perspective. Let alone I'm still not winning or hitting.


          I don’t know if this will do anything but you could try deleting and re-installing the patch?

          Long shot but worth a try???


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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #230
            Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

            Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
            Yep. The truth is somewhere in the middle. It can be frustrating no matter which "side" you're on and especially when you don't consider yourself on any "side" at all. No doubt there is a bunch of "user error" and "minuscule sample size" and "my settings/TV are different than yours" problems with many criticisms of the game and these can preclude any sort of apples to apples comparison.

            It'll continue to be messy and people will continue to take offense to one another, but as long as we're obeying the almighty TOS and somewhat open to reason, that's as good as it's gonna get on the internet in this day and age, imo.


            My only point in this entire discussion was to try to get people to see how their earned reputation in this community affects the point they are trying to make. Just like nobody is going to take Coca Cola's spokesmodel seriously about the virtues of the product, nobody is going to take PepsiCo's CEO's position on Coke seriously either. There is a matter of "consider the source" that we all probably do unconsciously when reading posts in here. I'd prefer that there were no "sides" either, but a lot of people seem predisposed toward one bent or the other.
            most of the time we're preaching to the choir, & we know it. But when we see something that seems out of line, you (not ''you'' specifically, ''you'' in general) you have to know you're going to get called on it, otherwise like it was alluded to earlier, OS becomes Shownation. I don't think anyone Pro-Show is trying to convert anyone to their way of thinking, & we're not concerned if others view us as shills. I also don't think people who constantly post negatively about the game are trying to convince those of us who do enjoy the game that we should put it down and play something else. I think they are mostly just venting. But OS is a great forum that allows both sides to opine on the matter.


            What I wanna know is there any hope that SDS can patch in a way for offline bunts to react differently than bunts online.
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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21789

              #231
              MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

              Originally posted by BegBy
              If you're saying I suck, then just say it. It's not offensive to me in any way, and probably rightly deserved. If that's not what you're saying then I have no idea what you mean.



              I'm saying prior to the last few patches I was playing on Legend, getting K'd close to 10 times a game yet still hitting. Pitchers threw on the black and nibbled. Loved it. I was still able to play and compete. Now...not so much. So going from Legend to Vet doesn't just suck because of ego - it sucks because Vet is bleh. Pitchers throw meatballs a lot more often and stats just get quite unrealistic. Seeing hanging breaking balls right down the pipe get drilled right into a fielder's glove or a weak pop fly is not enjoyable. Pretty not fun from my perspective. Let alone I'm still not winning or hitting.


              The only thing I can say is you need to maybe simply stop playing for a week. Just step away, play some other games.

              You are in a deep freeze at the plate. I am telling you no way it is the patch. Its really in your head.

              I have been fine from day one and going strong. I have had some cold spells here and there. But what you are describing is....you are flat out sucking *** at this game right now.

              Step away.

              Come back and try again.

              Seriously. It is the best advice I can give you. This is not a slider issue nor a patch issue.

              It is a horrendous slump.


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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52728

                #232
                Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                Yep. The truth is somewhere in the middle. It can be frustrating no matter which "side" you're on and especially when you don't consider yourself on any "side" at all. No doubt there is a bunch of "user error" and "minuscule sample size" and "my settings/TV are different than yours" problems with many criticisms of the game and these can preclude any sort of apples to apples comparison.

                It'll continue to be messy and people will continue to take offense to one another, but as long as we're obeying the almighty TOS and somewhat open to reason, that's as good as it's gonna get on the internet in this day and age, imo.

                My only point in this entire discussion was to try to get people to see how their earned reputation in this community affects the point they are trying to make. Just like nobody is going to take Coca Cola's spokesmodel seriously about the virtues of the product, nobody is going to take PepsiCo's CEO's position on Coke seriously either. There is a matter of "consider the source" that we all probably do unconsciously when reading posts in here. I'd prefer that there were no "sides" either, but a lot of people seem predisposed toward one bent or the other.
                I was going to be out but I want to say something. And this isn't posted directly at you, just using your quote as a point to branch off for my comment since the discussion has slightly changed.

                First and foremost I do have issues with the game and I speak out on those. Like when my carryover franchise was f'd up and I couldn't carry it over in spring training but had to sim to the regular season I was upset. And I let SDS know about it. We discussed and I moved on. My schedule in my carryover is out of whack. Series are starting two days late (weekend series games on mine are Sunday, Monday, Tuesday) It sucks and I don't like it but I've said my piece and I've moved on. Hell I didn't play '17 last year for my franchise because I was frustrated by the unbalanced gameplay and I didn't want to hold off playing my franchise until they fixed it. I just chose to play '16 and go about my business.

                The fact that I choose to post more about my positive experiences rather than the negative experiences shouldn't result in my opinion being viewed as skewed just because someone doesn't take the time, or visit the community enough, to know my overall view of the game.

                As for addressing every negative post, that for one isn't true. What I've addressed are issues that people are experiencing that I haven't. And this isn't for the sake of saying that they are wrong for their experience and I'm right. I address them and point out that I'm not experiencing said issue to let them know that, there is possibly a way of "fixing" their problem. It's why I share my experience, my play style, and I try to ask questions. Or I may point out what I think is happening to cause them to see said issue. Like the one video that Baseball Purist posted about his fielder not picking up the ball, I pointed out that it appeared the angle taken was bad. Just wasn't to shut him up or make him feel he was wrong, but rather point out what I thought might be happening. Then I expected him to respond with what he did or his thoughts.

                Like with the whole comeback AI talk. At one point, I asked those that are having the issue to point out what they thought could be triggering it. Nothing condescending about it, but rather trying to open a dialogue in an attempt to find a common factor as to why they may be seeing what they are seeing. If it was something hard coded into the game, then everyone would be experiencing it anytime they had a lead on the CPU late in the game. Unfortunately that dialogue fizzled out because it was basically I'm seeing it and anyone who says otherwise is lying or what have you. And sadly that seems to be a growing trend these days on this forum. If you don't agree with the issue at hand and support it 100% then far too often the dialogue turns to a pissing contest. And I'm big enough to admit that there are times that I get frustrated with certain posters posting the same issues year in and year out and refuse to engage in any type of civil discussion. And yes at times I've made comments about those posts that do not lead to anything constructive.

                What used to be great about OS was that you could have an issue and the community could discuss it. People would bounce ideas off of each other and try to help their fellow community member. We didn't always agree, but 95% of the time the discussion was civil and handled maturely. Unfortunately that happens far too infrequently these days, because as I said before, its almost like you're not allowed to post anything positive about the game or disagree with an "issue" without being labeled as a, well whatever.

                I will continue to post in the same manner I've been posting and I'll continue to point out when I see something differently than someone else. It's not that I'm defending the game or protecting SDS or white knighting, or what have you. It's because, believe it or not, I'm trying to help.

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                • callmetaternuts
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 7045

                  #233
                  Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  It's not about winning or anything.

                  Honestly its growing tired of being accused of "white knighting" for the game simply because I state that I don't see some of the issues that others are seeing, which I don't.

                  I thought that if I put out a full game's worth of video (minus the first two innings due to my error) then maybe people will understand why I'm stating that I'm not seeing issues, which is because I'm not.
                  WHAT ARE YOU HIDING IN THOSE FIRST TWO INNINGS???????
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                  • Sqeeshy
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 97

                    #234
                    Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                    Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                    No AUTO fielding is not a problem at all.
                    I play with auto fielding and I've had issues of outfielders running past a slow roller in front of them. My most striking issue just occurred about 10 minutes ago in the third game of my new Reds franchise. 8th inning tied at 1 with 2 outs and a runner on third, Daniel Murphy hits a hard grounder to 1st which Joey Votto fields, and, instead of touching 1st when I held circle, jogs on a straight path to the dugout allowing the runner to score, ruled an E3. I rage quit and am completely disheartened.

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                    • KnightTemplar
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 3282

                      #235
                      Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                      Originally posted by BegBy
                      If you're saying I suck, then just say it. It's not offensive to me in any way, and probably rightly deserved. If that's not what you're saying then I have no idea what you mean.



                      I'm saying prior to the last few patches I was playing on Legend, getting K'd close to 10 times a game yet still hitting. Pitchers threw on the black and nibbled. Loved it. I was still able to play and compete. Now...not so much. So going from Legend to Vet doesn't just suck because of ego - it sucks because Vet is bleh. Pitchers throw meatballs a lot more often and stats just get quite unrealistic. Seeing hanging breaking balls right down the pipe get drilled right into a fielder's glove or a weak pop fly is not enjoyable. Pretty not fun from my perspective. Let alone I'm still not winning or hitting.
                      Friend, not saying that at all. I apologize if you took it that way. You were being honest and that’s appreciated. Just pointing out how much the gamer matters too. I could NEVER manual run the bases. You want to have a good laugh i’ll have to make a video.

                      Hell, I don’t understand how somebody can finish Far Cry 5 in 10 hours, or less
                      When I haven’t even made a dent in it since release date.

                      Again, just trying to add a bit of humor. I,love my brother-in-law, just don’t want to play The Show against him.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52728

                        #236
                        Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                        Originally posted by Sqeeshy
                        I play with auto fielding and I've had issues of outfielders running past a slow roller in front of them. My most striking issue just occurred about 10 minutes ago in the third game of my new Reds franchise. 8th inning tied at 1 with 2 outs and a runner on third, Daniel Murphy hits a hard grounder to 1st which Joey Votto fields, and, instead of touching 1st when I held circle, jogs on a straight path to the dugout allowing the runner to score, ruled an E3. I rage quit and am completely disheartened.
                        That is an issue/bug with AUTO fielding from what I've gathered from the forum. I haven't seen it with MANUAL fielding so I'm not sure if I'm just lucky thus far or if its only on AUTO.

                        Unfortunately there is nothing you can do from what I've read. I thought you might be able to press the L stick to take over, but since its AUTO fielding that doesn't do anything.

                        One thing I will ask though, is if you press L1 (throw cancel) will it make him stop? My thinking is I wonder if you can press L1 to cancel the throw and then press circle again to make him run to the base correctly?

                        Cumbersome I know that it might work????
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52728

                          #237
                          Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                          Originally posted by callmetaternuts
                          WHAT ARE YOU HIDING IN THOSE FIRST TWO INNINGS???????
                          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                          • Sqeeshy
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 97

                            #238
                            Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            That is an issue/bug with AUTO fielding from what I've gathered from the forum. I haven't seen it with MANUAL fielding so I'm not sure if I'm just lucky thus far or if its only on AUTO.

                            Unfortunately there is nothing you can do from what I've read. I thought you might be able to press the L stick to take over, but since its AUTO fielding that doesn't do anything.

                            One thing I will ask though, is if you press L1 (throw cancel) will it make him stop? My thinking is I wonder if you can press L1 to cancel the throw and then press circle again to make him run to the base correctly?

                            Cumbersome I know that it might work????
                            I tried to press the left stick to take over and it did nothing. Didn't try to cancel the throw, but once he passed first I did press X to try and get the ball home and nothing happened. It was as if he locked into the animation as soon as he fielded the ball. Other than that and a few minor fielding issues, I have had no problems whatsoever in any other facet (using Armor's sliders, in case anyone was wondering). Unfortunate that it had to happen at such a crucial point in the game.

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52728

                              #239
                              Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                              Originally posted by Sqeeshy
                              I tried to press the left stick to take over and it did nothing. Didn't try to cancel the throw, but once he passed first I did press X to try and get the ball home and nothing happened. It was as if he locked into the animation as soon as he fielded the ball. Other than that and a few minor fielding issues, I have had no problems whatsoever in any other facet (using Armor's sliders, in case anyone was wondering). Unfortunate that it had to happen at such a crucial point in the game.
                              Doesn't sound as if throw cancelling would work then.

                              Damn that sucks, especially for it to happen in that situation.

                              Did you make a bug report on Shownation for the devs? If not I would recommend it so that they can see what is happening and hopefully find a fix. It's bad enough it happens but not having at least a way of counteracting it is absolutely demoralizing.
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                              • Armor and Sword
                                The Lama
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21789

                                #240
                                Re: MLB The Show 18 Patch 1.10 Available, Patch Notes Here

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                That is an issue/bug with AUTO fielding from what I've gathered from the forum. I haven't seen it with MANUAL fielding so I'm not sure if I'm just lucky thus far or if its only on AUTO.

                                Unfortunately there is nothing you can do from what I've read. I thought you might be able to press the L stick to take over, but since its AUTO fielding that doesn't do anything.

                                One thing I will ask though, is if you press L1 (throw cancel) will it make him stop? My thinking is I wonder if you can press L1 to cancel the throw and then press circle again to make him run to the base correctly?

                                Cumbersome I know that it might work????


                                Actually I have answered how to combat this bug a million times and here it goes again. I auto field and manual throw......when I get a grounder to first and i want my fielder to take it and step on the bag I simply get control of the first baseman with my LS and move him to the bag and he engages in the step on the bag animation.

                                No issues.

                                DO not press the circle button if you auto field and manual throw on balls it to the first basemen unless you want to toss it to a pitcher covering.

                                Never saw the bug again when employing this tactic.
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