Fictional Rosters have made me love The Show again!!

[ShowTyme15]

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I’ve put in enough work on this one to start thinking this will be a carryover for me as well. Although I will have to stop tinkering with the Roster first! justmunc did a really good job crafting his set and it was a ton of fun back in the day but I do remember him saying something along the lines that it was too much work to add service time. So kudos goes to Bacon for being able to craft a set AND add service time.

If you are looking for more service time guys download VolsFan's set as well and pull some from his as well.

[bacon96]

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Showtyme, you inspired me and I’m on board the Marlins train! I reinstalled 17/18 to grab some of my favourite players from justmuncs 2017 roster and will sprinkle them throughout Bacons Roster on their correct teams if their salary stays within Bacons limits.

My Marlins scored Tim Teixiera a Florida born Trout like CF signed to a 10 year deal. Jernigan is now in the process of being converted to 2B which has has seen a 5 point bump in his overall. A side benefit has been I can’t believe how much easier it is to bat at Marlins Park instead of Fenway especially when Bacon loves to throw in a funky action or two.

Bacon, as you know I’m in the laborious process of adding service time to a couple of dozen players and find it hard to comprehend how you’ve done nigh on a couple of thousand. I’ve also just noticed that for the most part you have done realistic options for players when you were simming. It’s something I didn’t even think of when adding service time and I might have to go back and redo a couple of the older players and burn some options along the way to fit with how perfect your Roster is. Options are something SCEA couldn’t even get right this year and you are a one man band. Well done!

So many kind words, thank you. Service time and options go together really well and I knew from the start that I needed (somewhat) realistic options. As for when I had been simming service, you can thank the endless amount of youtube videos out there because I consistently consumed hours of youtube at any given time trying to sim stats/service and use options...it really is a tough process and takes tons of patience. Lastly, I really hope MLB 20 goes back to giving us the ability to backdate simmed years (if you tried the workaround on 19, you'll understand) because I haven't been able to add as many service time players throughout the game in this most recent cycle. This has caused my focus to turn towards bettering the minor leagues like specific prospects, filling out AAA with better talent and the lower minors as well. All around, it'll be a much more rounded roster that I upload (hopefully) in March or very early April.

[bacon96]

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Also, somewhat related to my previous posts, I'll be starting a thread here on OS similar to the traditional franchise discussion thread but just for fictional rosters. This hypothetically would include discussions about my own roster, Volsfan39's and any other community created projects in the vault so look for that shortly after MLB20 drops!

Baseball is Better!

[tuckermaine]

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I don’t understand Bacons fictional roster...how does the game play better?
Also is it not different than when I create my Highschool team...right..
So it is just fictional players correct..?

[No.27]

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I don’t understand Bacons fictional roster...how does the game play better?
Also is it not different than when I create my Highschool team...right..
So it is just fictional players correct..?

The way the players are rated is different than the Default Rosters. It’s taken me a couple of years to embrace the difference but I couldn’t see myself going back to the Default Roster which to me now seems vanilla in comparison to Bacons Roster.

One key area for me is that the Steal rating and Base Runner aggressiveness are often much higher than the Default Roster. For example my Marlins SS is rated Speed 69 Steal 56 BR AGG 78! I use Auto Baserunning and I’m continually seeing him pushing for extra bases and taking off for crazy steal attempts. His opinion of himself as a base runner far outweighs his speed and ability. It might seem more haphazard than the Default Roster but it’s an area in my opinion where a Fictional Roster has captured real life baserunning far better than the Default Roster.

Another point of difference is that hitters lefty/righty splits are more extreme and frequent. You can’t just look at the overall and assume a level of ability. Tampa Bays 82 rated switch hitting no 2 just took my lefty starter to the cleaners because I hadn’t checked his power was rated 42 righties and 92 lefties! You really have to do your homework and be on the ball with your bullpen management.

There also seems to be broader range of Fielding ability 10-99! I use autofielding and have seen lots of great animations of both good and bad fielding! It’s to the point where you have to make decisions on whether you carry a dud in the field just for his bat or a light hitting ace in field plays to support your No.5 starter. My Marlins SS/2B are both rated 99 Fielding and even though the are limited against lefties play 1/2 in the lineup everyday making my pitching staff so much better.

To me it’s the ratings that are the strong suit of Bacons Roster and play differently than the Default. The Fictional part is the icing on the cake. Best way to see the difference is to jump in for a few games and try it for yourself.

[tuckermaine]

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The way the players are rated is different than the Default Rosters. It’s taken me a couple of years to embrace the difference but I couldn’t see myself going back to the Default Roster which to me now seems vanilla in comparison to Bacons Roster.

One key area for me is that the Steal rating and Base Runner aggressiveness are often much higher than the Default Roster. For example my Marlins SS is rated Speed 69 Steal 56 BR AGG 78! I use Auto Baserunning and I’m continually seeing him pushing for extra bases and taking off for crazy steal attempts. His opinion of himself as a base runner far outweighs his speed and ability. It might seem more haphazard than the Default Roster but it’s an area in my opinion where a Fictional Roster has captured real life baserunning far better than the Default Roster.

Another point of difference is that hitters lefty/righty splits are more extreme and frequent. You can’t just look at the overall and assume a level of ability. Tampa Bays 82 rated switch hitting no 2 just took my lefty starter to the cleaners because I hadn’t checked his power was rated 42 righties and 92 lefties! You really have to do your homework and be on the ball with your bullpen management.

There also seems to be broader range of Fielding ability 10-99! I use autofielding and have seen lots of great animations of both good and bad fielding! It’s to the point where you have to make decisions on whether you carry a dud in the field just for his bat or a light hitting ace in field plays to support your No.5 starter. My Marlins SS/2B are both rated 99 Fielding and even though the are limited against lefties play 1/2 in the lineup everyday making my pitching staff so much better.

To me it’s the ratings that are the strong suit of Bacons Roster and play differently than the Default. The Fictional part is the icing on the cake. Best way to see the difference is to jump in for a few games and try it for yourself.

Thank you for the reply
Wow..baserunning aggressiveness is what I’m trying to achieve in 19 I play. Cpuvs cpu
But...
What baserunning aggressiveness rating ...there is none you mean stealing aggressiveness right

[No.27]

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Thank you for the reply
Wow..baserunning aggressiveness is what I’m trying to achieve in 19 I play. Cpuvs cpu
But...
What baserunning aggressiveness rating ...there is none you mean stealing aggressiveness right

If you load Bacons Roster then go to Roster Control/Edit Player you will find BR Aggressiveness is the last Player Attribute. Bacon has done a lot of editing work to increase this attribute throughout the League and made base running for more lively as a consequence. For example just recently I was behind by one in the 8th inning of a game and my aforementioned SS led off the inning with a single and next batter up blooped one over the 1st baseman’s head down towards the RF corner. I don’t think my SS ever had any intention of stopping at 2nd and charged his way to 3rd. The RF pumped up by his powerful arm (another Bacon speciality) threw to 3rd looking for the out instead of protecting 2nd. The SS made it by a whisker and in the confusion the batter snuck round to second when there was only ever a single in it. A couple of contact hits later and I was back in the lead due mainly due to the influence of the BR Aggressiveness attribute. Note this is not to be confused with the Steal Frequency Slider which I have set at Default.

[Jeffrey Smith]

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With rebranding in the game in 20 I’m definitely going to run a second franchise using Bacons roster and rebrand every team.

Gonna treat it like an independent league and play all my games in minor league stadiums.


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[Jeffrey Smith]

Fictional Rosters have made me love The Show again!!

Oops not sure how to post pictures

[No.27]

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With rebranding in the game in 20 I’m definitely going to run a second franchise using Bacons roster and rebrand every team.

Gonna treat it like an independent league and play all my games in minor league stadiums.


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The stars have certainly aligned this year in regards to the new features and Bacons Roster coming into its own. What you have done with the League looks great.

[Jeffrey Smith]

Fictional Rosters have made me love The Show again!!

INDEPENDENT LEAGUE


Northern League

Toronto
Ottawa
Montreal
Buffalo
Rochester

Halifax
Moncton
Maine
St. John’s
Newport

Winnipeg
Saskatchewan
Edmonton
Calgary
Vancouver


Southern League


Sacramento
Las Vegas
Tijuana
Portland
Salt Lake City

Albuquerque
Oklahoma
El Paso
Shreveport
Nebraska

New Orleans
Mobile
Jacksonville
Charlotte
Myrtle Beach

This is what I’m thinking to rebrand all teams using Bacons roster.


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[tuckermaine]

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If you load Bacons Roster then go to Roster Control/Edit Player you will find BR Aggressiveness is the last Player Attribute. Bacon has done a lot of editing work to increase this attribute throughout the League and made base running for more lively as a consequence. For example just recently I was behind by one in the 8th inning of a game and my aforementioned SS led off the inning with a single and next batter up blooped one over the 1st baseman’s head down towards the RF corner. I don’t think my SS ever had any intention of stopping at 2nd and charged his way to 3rd. The RF pumped up by his powerful arm (another Bacon speciality) threw to 3rd looking for the out instead of protecting 2nd. The SS made it by a whisker and in the confusion the batter snuck round to second when there was only ever a single in it. A couple of contact hits later and I was back in the lead due mainly due to the influence of the BR Aggressiveness attribute. Note this is not to be confused with the Steal Frequency Slider which I have set at Default.

Ok I’m really excited here..I’m going to fire up 19 had put away because of baserunning passiveness. Two more things and I’ll leave you alone...
Maybe three...
How do I get Bacons roster..and more importantly..” is there a slider set that works best with this?”
Lastly ..The BR Aggressiveness attribute is on the player itself right ..i don’t remember this as I though BR Aggressiveness was tied to base stealing ..
Anyway thanks a ton ...

[Jeffrey Smith]

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The stars have certainly aligned this year in regards to the new features and Bacons Roster coming into its own. What you have done with the League looks great.

With the devs saying that commentary will be specific too rebranded teams a whole new league would feel fresh and unique.

I’m actually more excited for this than the full minor league rosters.

Crazy.


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[No.27]

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Ok I’m really excited here..I’m going to fire up 19 had put away because of baserunning passiveness. Two more things and I’ll leave you alone...
Maybe three...
How do I get Bacons roster..and more importantly..” is there a slider set that works best with this?”
Lastly ..The BR Aggressiveness attribute is on the player itself right ..i don’t remember this as I though BR Aggressiveness was tied to base stealing ..
Anyway thanks a ton ...

Your welcome. Go to the Roster Vault hit triangle search username Cwebs96 and Bacons Fictional Roster 19 will come up download that one. For CPU/CPU I’d start with Default All Star and adjust from there as you see how the games play. The beauty of a Fictional Roster is that it doesn’t really have to mimic real life and you can tailor the gameplay to however you want it to be. Yes the BR AGG is tied to player and you don’t have to adjust anything. Pick a team with lots of speed and have fun!

[bacon96]

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Looks like there will be yet another fictional roster provided by @tuckermaine with details here on OS. MLB20 will be full of tons of fictional rosters!

Baseball is Better!