MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

[Mackrel829]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

You could swap Gore into there if you would prefer, or Campusano, but Hassell has higher value.

I traded Hosmer + specs for Votto in my franchise which could also be an option since you have the budget.

Now that the Padres have just traded for Sean Manaea, do you think they'll still be looking for pitching at the deadline?

[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I’m half joking, just saying that the Cubs basically gave away Rizzo, Bryant, Baez, and Kimbrel for virtually nothing.


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Those trades hurt my soul to the core, but they got some pretty good pieces in return. From a pure baseball perspective they got good value for each of those guys, but they all obviously meant a lot to the fans as well

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[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Now that the Padres have just traded for Sean Manaea, do you think they'll still be looking for pitching at the deadline?

Short answer: yes. Can never have too much pitching.

Longer answer: really depends on their situation an how their guys are performing. Pretty much every contending team will look for bullpen help at the deadline at the very least

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[Jeffrey Smith]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I’m playing a Twins franchise and would like to trade for Joey Votto. I’m going to use a random number generator to see if he will waive his no trade clause. Trying to keep it realistic.

What would he cost me?


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[Mackrel829]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I’m playing a Twins franchise and would like to trade for Joey Votto. I’m going to use a random number generator to see if he will waive his no trade clause. Trying to keep it realistic.

What would he cost me?


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Votto's contract is pretty cumbersome. I believe he has two years left with a club option after that, and he's owed a lot of money. His value is currently -33 on Baseball Trade Values.

That means to take on Votto's contract, the Twins should be asking for something like Hunter Greene + Tyler Callihan, and there's just no way that happens.

The Reds did just trade away Jessie Winker to dump salary, and that has been their M.O. this off-season, but I can't see them giving away what it would take to shift Votto's money.

According to BTV, Sano is the Twin with the most negative value at -7.1. This brings the net value of a potential deal to -26. If the Twins were desperate to add Votto, I guess they could knock a chunk off that negative value and ask for 20ish in surplus value.

So a trade would look something like this:

Reds get:
Miguel Sano (-7.1)
-7.1

Twins get:
Joey Votto (-33)
Elly De La Cruz (21.5)
-11.5

So that gets it close and is actually a pretty reasonable deal all things considered.

As you mentioned though, Votto has a NTC and he's a lifelong Red. I'm fully expecting him to retire a Red. Also, De La Cruz is the Reds' #3 prospect and there's been a lot of buzz around him lately amongst Reds fans and media. I can't see the above trade happening in real life but I think that's as close to realistic as you're going to get.

[Jeffrey Smith]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Votto's contract is pretty cumbersome. I believe he has two years left with a club option after that, and he's owed a lot of money. His value is currently -33 on Baseball Trade Values.

That means to take on Votto's contract, the Twins should be asking for something like Hunter Greene + Tyler Callihan, and there's just no way that happens.

The Reds did just trade away Jessie Winker to dump salary, and that has been their M.O. this off-season, but I can't see them giving away what it would take to shift Votto's money.

According to BTV, Sano is the Twin with the most negative value at -7.1. This brings the net value of a potential deal to -26. If the Twins were desperate to add Votto, I guess they could knock a chunk off that negative value and ask for 20ish in surplus value.

So a trade would look something like this:

Reds get:
Miguel Sano (-7.1)
-7.1

Twins get:
Joey Votto (-33)
Elly De La Cruz (21.5)
-11.5

So that gets it close and is actually a pretty reasonable deal all things considered.

As you mentioned though, Votto has a NTC and he's a lifelong Red. I'm fully expecting him to retire a Red. Also, De La Cruz is the Reds' #3 prospect and there's been a lot of buzz around him lately amongst Reds fans and media. I can't see the above trade happening in real life but I think that's as close to realistic as you're going to get.

Ouch. I was thinking along the lines of the Hosmer rumours but as your pointing out doesn’t seem reasonable for the Reds to attach prospect capital to move Votto and any other way to pull the trade off would be unrealistic.

By the time Votto is in his last year under contract he’ll have regressed so much in game he’ll be useless.

Thanks for the response.


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[Friar Fanatic]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Now that the Padres have just traded for Sean Manaea, do you think they'll still be looking for pitching at the deadline?

If they have injuries at SP, yes.

Darvish, Musgrove, Clevinger, Snell, Manaea, with Gore, Weathers, Lamet, and Paddack able to fill in is a lot of SP depth.

Luis Castillo might not be a top priority since he would bump someone out of the rotation. It could be possible if they have 1 of those 5 are injured though

[Friar Fanatic]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Ouch. I was thinking along the lines of the Hosmer rumours but as your pointing out doesn’t seem reasonable for the Reds to attach prospect capital to move Votto and any other way to pull the trade off would be unrealistic.

By the time Votto is in his last year under contract he’ll have regressed so much in game he’ll be useless.

Thanks for the response.


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Hosmer is -50 so the Reds would get Hosmer (less $$$ per year) and could get someone like Paddack or Campusano.

The Twins don't have anyone nearly as heavy as Hosmer to unload

[Mackrel829]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

This trade is almost dead even on BTV. Is this something that the Padres would ever consider?

Imagine they're top of the division approaching the deadline and think they can stay ahead of the Dodgers.

Padres get:
Luis Castillo: 57.5
Total: 57.5

Reds get:
CJ Abrams: 68.3
Robert Hassell: 38.7
Eric Hosmer: -50.7
Total: 56.3

[CBoller1331]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

This trade is almost dead even on BTV. Is this something that the Padres would ever consider?

Imagine they're top of the division approaching the deadline and think they can stay ahead of the Dodgers.

Padres get:
Luis Castillo: 57.5
Total: 57.5

Reds get:
CJ Abrams: 68.3
Robert Hassell: 38.7
Eric Hosmer: -50.7
Total: 56.3

I'm not sure the Reds would be the team to take on Hosmer's contract, but with both those prospects attached it is certainly intriguing. I'm not sure the Padres would give up Abrams, even in a trade for a top-end pitcher and dumping Hosmer...Campusano probably more likely?? But not sure if the Reds would go for that as well as taking on Hosmer

[Mysterious]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I notice on the website you listed for baseball trade simulator valuation that star players are not given the option to be traded. Why is that? Isn’t there is a potential for a blockbuster trade? Like the Rockies trading Arenado. [emoji20]


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[GR5Noles]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I notice on the website you listed for baseball trade simulator valuation that star players are not given the option to be traded. Why is that? Isn’t there is a potential for a blockbuster trade? Like the Rockies trading Arenado. [emoji20]


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I assume it signifies that the player has a no trade clause. I know Arenado has a NTC in his.

[Mackrel829]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I'm not sure the Reds would be the team to take on Hosmer's contract, but with both those prospects attached it is certainly intriguing. I'm not sure the Padres would give up Abrams, even in a trade for a top-end pitcher and dumping Hosmer...Campusano probably more likely?? But not sure if the Reds would go for that as well as taking on Hosmer

If you take Abrams put, you can do the following as a return for Castillo:

Hosmer
Hassell
Campusano
Paddock
Gore
Morejon

That comes to 48.30. That's a tonne of stuff to give up though.

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

If you take Abrams put, you can do the following as a return for Castillo:

Hosmer
Hassell
Campusano
Paddock
Gore
Morejon

That comes to 48.30. That's a tonne of stuff to give up though.

This comes awfully close to quantity over quality.

Happy to see this thread for another year

[Mackrel829]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

This comes awfully close to quantity over quality.

Happy to see this thread for another year

I'm a Reds fan and I'd be stoked to get Hassell, Campusano and Gore back for Castillo and you're getting two other arms as well.

I was also looking at a deal with the Red Sox who at currently leading the division approaching the All Star break but that seems too much like quality over quantity lol. I was looking at getting Casas back but he's very close to Castillo in value so it would basically be a straight one for one. If Casas busts, you're screwed.