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  • BlueJays09
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    • Jul 2011
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    #31
    Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

    A few minor trade scenarios I’m working on with my Jays to address some bench needs. I’m wondering how best to make it work.

    From Oakland I was looking at Piscotty, but he’s -8.6. I don’t really have anyone In the negatives that I would want to trade. Even it I added Trivino (1.1) that’s still quite a minus so I doubt it’s feasible to acquire him. I could give up a lottery ticket type minor leaguer I guess but not sure if they would be that bothered as it’s only one more year to pay him.

    Another one I was looking at was with Seattle. I would acquire Dylan Moore (1.9) and Billy Hamilton (0) for Thomas Hatch (1.4) and Cemeron Eden (0.6). I also like White from Seattle but he’s -11.7 so I have the same issues as above with Oakland.

    Any input would be appreciated on how to work through negative values haha! Just looking for depth moves to improve my bench a little so most guys I’m after aren’t highly valued.


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    • Instant C1a55ic
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      #32
      Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

      Despite Jose Ramirez just re-upping with Cleveland, I am still going to try and deal for him in my Blue Jays 'chise. Not sure what my package will look like per say, prolly something including Cavin Biggio.

      Ill post the trade as soon as I get around to it.
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      • Instant C1a55ic
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        #33
        Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by GR5Noles
        I assume it signifies that the player has a no trade clause. I know Arenado has a NTC in his.
        I have a silly ritual for NTC trades in my franchises. (I google to see if the player has one, so if anyone has a better way, please let me know lol)

        I build a trade to see if I even have the capital to acquire them. Once the trade is set, I literally flip a coin. Its best 2 out of three to see if they would waive their no trade clause.
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        • Cuse 15
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          • Jul 2008
          • 421

          #34
          Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

          Going to start a franchise as the Nationals, looking to get Gleyber Torres and Miguel Andujar (for some reason, I hit well with them) what would a trade look like? With DJ and IKF and the kids behind them in Scranton, Torrres will be the odd man out at some point

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          • Bgrd1080
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            • Jul 2012
            • 527

            #35
            Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

            Playing as San Diego, still early into April of my franchise. The Padres need help in the outfield corners. Also could use a bat as Tatis is out till June. Was hoping to find a way to get Laureano, I know he plays CF typically but him and Grish could play anywhere if you ask me.

            Is Ramon Laureano to SD feasible/plausible? I know technically he's out the first month of the season so I moved him down to AA for Oakland due to PED's. They haven't called him up yet in game, but also only 15 games into the season.

            ***Also going to make the Paddock/Rogers trade SD just made this morning so perhaps another outfielder doesn't make sense as SD just got backup OF Rooker from Minnesota.
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            • Mackrel829
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              • Mar 2019
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              #36
              Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Bgrd1080
              Playing as San Diego, still early into April of my franchise. The Padres need help in the outfield corners. Also could use a bat as Tatis is out till June. Was hoping to find a way to get Laureano, I know he plays CF typically but him and Grish could play anywhere if you ask me.

              Is Ramon Laureano to SD feasible/plausible? I know technically he's out the first month of the season so I moved him down to AA for Oakland due to PED's. They haven't called him up yet in game, but also only 15 games into the season.

              ***Also going to make the Paddock/Rogers trade SD just made this morning so perhaps another outfielder doesn't make sense as SD just got backup OF Rooker from Minnesota.
              Hassell, Gore, and a player to be named later gets it done.

              I'm not sure it makes sense in April but if you're in it by the deadline I think it makes perfect sense for both parties.

              If you put Tatis back in the outfield, an outfield of Tatis, Grisham and Laureano would be nasty.

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              • Friar Fanatic
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                • May 2012
                • 471

                #37
                Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Mysterious
                I notice on the website you listed for baseball trade simulator valuation that star players are not given the option to be traded. Why is that? Isn’t there is a potential for a blockbuster trade? Like the Rockies trading Arenado. [emoji20]

                It's only for players that almost have no chance of getting traded. When Arenado was traded it didn't say none, it said low.

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                Originally posted by Mackrel829
                If you take Abrams put, you can do the following as a return for Castillo:

                Hosmer
                Hassell
                Campusano
                Paddock
                Gore
                Morejon

                That comes to 48.30. That's a tonne of stuff to give up though.
                Originally posted by Mackrel829
                I'm a Reds fan and I'd be stoked to get Hassell, Campusano and Gore back for Castillo and you're getting two other arms as well.

                I was also looking at a deal with the Red Sox who at currently leading the division approaching the All Star break but that seems too much like quality over quantity lol. I was looking at getting Casas back but he's very close to Castillo in value so it would basically be a straight one for one. If Casas busts, you're screwed.
                Padres would most likely not dump Hosmer and take a big pitcher they don't need in the same deal.

                Recently they almost traded Hosmer and Paddack to NYM for Dom Smith. They also declined a trade for Bryan Reynolds that included Abrams and Hassell. I think you could either A) take on Hosmer and get Campusano or Paddack. Or B) Trade Castillo and get someone possibly like Hassell. No shot of getting 2 of Hassell, Gore, Abrams, and Campusano. But pairing one of them up with Paddack, Weathers, Morejon, or something

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                • Bgrd1080
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                  • Jul 2012
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                  #38
                  Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Mackrel829
                  Hassell, Gore, and a player to be named later gets it done.

                  I'm not sure it makes sense in April but if you're in it by the deadline I think it makes perfect sense for both parties.

                  If you put Tatis back in the outfield, an outfield of Tatis, Grisham and Laureano would be nasty.


                  A's didn't get nearly that haul for Matt Olson or Chapman? You still think Gore has to go for Laureano who isn't the defensive player or hitter that Chapman is? I figured I'd have to pay a pretty penny but someone in the top 10 of the minors or maybe 2
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                  • MrSerendipity
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                    • Jun 2013
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                    #39
                    Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Bgrd1080
                    A's didn't get nearly that haul for Matt Olson or Chapman? You still think Gore has to go for Laureano who isn't the defensive player or hitter that Chapman is? I figured I'd have to pay a pretty penny but someone in the top 10 of the minors or maybe 2
                    Yeah, Gore has to go. Laureano is worth a pretty penny, even with the suspension. And the Athletics historically value arms in return. This is how I'd frame a trade if you want my input.

                    SD Receives:
                    Laureano
                    Puk

                    OAK Receives:
                    Hassell
                    Gore
                    Weathers
                    Mazara

                    This gives San Diego the star outfielder you're seeking, as well as a rotation arm that still holds a bit of potential. Oakland in return gets a future stud in the outfield that they hope can replicate Laureano's value, two top young arms and a body (Mazara) to fill the gap left in the OF. Campusano gets brought up in a lot of Padre trades but he isn't an option here as Oakland is already stacked at Catcher. If you're really bothered by how much you're giving up here, you could swap out Gore and replace him with Robert Gasser. Just know that if you do that, you're technically working the A's over on value a bit. Not so much it's criminal but you're "winning" the trade.
                    Last edited by MrSerendipity; 04-08-2022, 04:53 PM.
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                    • MrSerendipity
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                      • Jun 2013
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                      #40
                      Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Friar Fanatic
                      Padres would most likely not dump Hosmer and take a big pitcher they don't need in the same deal.

                      Recently they almost traded Hosmer and Paddack to NYM for Dom Smith. They also declined a trade for Bryan Reynolds that included Abrams and Hassell. I think you could either A) take on Hosmer and get Campusano or Paddack. Or B) Trade Castillo and get someone possibly like Hassell. No shot of getting 2 of Hassell, Gore, Abrams, and Campusano. But pairing one of them up with Paddack, Weathers, Morejon, or something
                      The Hosmer situation is such an anomaly. Judging by his trade value, you'd guess the dude literally can't swing a bat or field a ball but that isn't the case. He's serviceable enough to deal with, you just hate how much you're paying for it. I agree with your assessment. Going after a top player and trying to move Hosmer creates such a value albatross that you end up adding players you normally wouldn't just to get a deal done. I honestly think SD had their best opportunity in that deal with NYM as Paddack was expendable. But even then, you saw they valued getting something in return for Paddack as opposed to just losing him to get rid of Hosmer. It's tough. He's difficult to work a trade for in the same way Schwarber used to be difficult, only for opposite reasons.
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                      • Friar Fanatic
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                        • May 2012
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                        #41
                        Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Bgrd1080
                        A's didn't get nearly that haul for Matt Olson or Chapman? You still think Gore has to go for Laureano who isn't the defensive player or hitter that Chapman is? I figured I'd have to pay a pretty penny but someone in the top 10 of the minors or maybe 2
                        Read the below quote below, great info. There is a reason that the Padres haven't traded for a star OF. For example, the Pirates wanted Weathers, Paddack, AND Abrams for Reynolds. Gore has low value since he fell out of the top 100. You're better off keeping him and shipping players like Campusano, Hassell, Paddack, Morejon, and Weathers for lesser players. In my franchise I traded PIT Campusano, Hassell, Paddack, and Weathers. It's slightly more value than Reynolds is worth, but I didn't mind the overpay. You can swap out Gore for Weathers if you want. But Gore's value is pretty low now. It's not what it used to be.

                        Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                        Yeah, Gore has to go. Laureano is worth a pretty penny, even with the suspension. And the Athletics historically value arms in return. This is how I'd frame a trade if you want my input.

                        SD Receives:
                        Laureano
                        Puk

                        OAK Receives:
                        Hassell
                        Gore
                        Weathers
                        Mazara

                        This gives San Diego the star outfielder you're seeking, as well as a rotation arm that still holds a bit of potential. Oakland in return gets a future stud in the outfield that they hope can replicate Laureano's value, two top young arms and a body (Mazara) to fill the gap left in the OF. Campusano gets brought up in a lot of Padre trades but he isn't an option here as Oakland is already stacked at Catcher. If you're really bothered by how much you're giving up here, you could swap out Gore and replace him with Robert Gasser. Just know that if you do that, you're technically working the A's over on value a bit. Not so much it's criminal but you're "winning" the trade.
                        Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                        The Hosmer situation is such an anomaly. Judging by his trade value, you'd guess the dude literally can't swing a bat or field a ball but that isn't the case. He's serviceable enough to deal with, you just hate how much you're paying for it. I agree with your assessment. Going after a top player and trying to move Hosmer creates such a value albatross that you end up adding players you normally wouldn't just to get a deal done. I honestly think SD had their best opportunity in that deal with NYM as Paddack was expendable. But even then, you saw they valued getting something in return for Paddack as opposed to just losing him to get rid of Hosmer. It's tough. He's difficult to work a trade for in the same way Schwarber used to be difficult, only for opposite reasons.
                        Yeah Hosmer is a nightmare situation lol. I think they have shown more of a willingness to deal him with some valued players and just get minimal in return. Tough situation for sure though.

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                        • shiftythomas
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                          • Aug 2007
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                          #42
                          Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Can anyone help with trade suggestions for improving the Rangers pitching staff? I would like to make them more competitive in year one. I’m not plugged into MLB like I am with the NFL, so any suggestions would be welcome.

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                          • orioles0615
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                            #43
                            Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Is there a way in 30 team control to cancel bad trades without having force trade on?

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                            • Friar Fanatic
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                              #44
                              Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by shiftythomas
                              Can anyone help with trade suggestions for improving the Rangers pitching staff? I would like to make them more competitive in year one. I’m not plugged into MLB like I am with the NFL, so any suggestions would be welcome.
                              Kyle hendricks from the Cubs
                              Merill Kelly from tbe DBacks
                              Means from the Orioles
                              Freeland from the Rockies

                              Some bigger targets could be Luis Castillo and Mahle from the Reds
                              Marquez from the Rockies


                              Originally posted by orioles0615
                              Is there a way in 30 team control to cancel bad trades without having force trade on?
                              I just reverse the trade after it happens. If you cant do it without forcing you can edit a player to a 99, trade him back to get the trade done, then edit the player back to normal
                              Last edited by Friar Fanatic; 04-10-2022, 06:03 PM.

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                              • MrSerendipity
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                                #45
                                Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by shiftythomas
                                Can anyone help with trade suggestions for improving the Rangers pitching staff? I would like to make them more competitive in year one. I’m not plugged into MLB like I am with the NFL, so any suggestions would be welcome.
                                Friar gave you some solid options here. Someone I’ve been looking at for my own franchise with the Rangers is Glasnow as I’ve read the Rays have considered moving him to clear up some cap space. He doesn’t fit your needs though as he’s not immediately ready for you. So much of who Texas can bring back revolves around, are you willing to deal Winn? I think your answer should be no. Winn has great projections. But because of that, he increases what you can get back really quickly. A guy like Castillo, I can’t imagine Texas making that work without Winn. A guy like Mahle who I like a lot more for Texas, you can make that work.

                                For either Mahle or Means, I think sending a return of Duran, Howard, White and Roby gets a deal done. Cincy/Oakland can send back a low value reliever or PTBNL just to get the deal done on the show. Texas loses some serious pitching depth but it’s worth it for either of those arms. More importantly, it gives you this as a potential 2023 rotation:

                                Means/Mahle
                                Gray
                                Dunning
                                Leiter
                                Winn

                                In 2024 that could easily be:

                                Leiter
                                Means/Mahle
                                Winn
                                Gray
                                Dunning

                                All of that being said, I like to have a non-Ranger fan give my Ranger trade proposals a thumbs up before I say they’re good to go. I do my best to avoid bias but I think it happens to everyone with their favorite team on occasion.
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