MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

[Mackrel829]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Can anyone help with trade suggestions for improving the Rangers pitching staff? I would like to make them more competitive in year one. I’m not plugged into MLB like I am with the NFL, so any suggestions would be welcome.

I see that Marquez from the Rockies has been suggested but Austin Gomber is a good option too and much cheaper with regards to trade compensation.

Gomber is a lefty, he's 28, and he hasn't hit arbitration yet. He's slightly lower overall (79 iirc and I can't remember what Marquez is) but is only valued at 18ish on BTV, whereas Marquez is valued at 58ish.

They're both very solid options depending on what exactly you're looking for and how much you're looking to give up.

[franch1se]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Who would have more value between Darvish and Snell? I may be looking to move one in the offseason. Darvish is older, a bit more expensive, but the better pitcher (arguably). After the year both would only have 1 season remaining on their deal.

My rotation now is:

Musgrove (FA after the year, he will be brought back)
Darvish (2 yrs left, 1 after this season)
Manaea (FA after the year, i want to bring him back)
Clevinger (FA after the year, i want to bring him back)
Snell (2 yrs left, 1 after this season)

At some point it will be Gore's time so someone has to go. Nick Martinez is also in the rotation since Clev is currently on the IL and doing fine for us, he's signed for 4 more seasons. Then there is Ryan Weathers.

I'd rather trade Darvish or Snell to get players back rather than losing Manaea or Clev to FA and get no return.

[Mackrel829]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Who would have more value between Darvish and Snell? I may be looking to move one in the offseason. Darvish is older, a bit more expensive, but the better pitcher (arguably). After the year both would only have 1 season remaining on their deal.

My rotation now is:

Musgrove (FA after the year, he will be brought back)
Darvish (2 yrs left, 1 after this season)
Manaea (FA after the year, i want to bring him back)
Clevinger (FA after the year, i want to bring him back)
Snell (2 yrs left, 1 after this season)

At some point it will be Gore's time so someone has to go. Nick Martinez is also in the rotation since Clev is currently on the IL and doing fine for us, he's signed for 4 more seasons. Then there is Ryan Weathers.

I'd rather trade Darvish or Snell to get players back rather than losing Manaea or Clev to FA and get no return.

Snell is currently valued at 12.5, whilst Darvish is valued at 4. The primary reason for the disparity is likely age.

Depending on how they're performing in game and when you're planning to trade them, the disparity could be slightly greater or smaller, though I wouldn't forsee it changing too much.

The most likely scenario that would cause a significant change is if Snell is lighting it up but then you probably wouldn't want to shift him if that's the case.

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

Link in case you didn't know where to find their values.

[Friar Fanatic]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Looking for a RP or a SP that I can convert to a RP that throws gas. Looking for someone that has a real possibility to be available, not like Chapman or something.

Looking someone who throws 99+. Extra props if they have the quirk that allows them to exceed the pitch speed limit and throw 102.

[MrSerendipity]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Looking for a RP or a SP that I can convert to a RP that throws gas. Looking for someone that has a real possibility to be available, not like Chapman or something.

Looking someone who throws 99+. Extra props if they have the quirk that allows them to exceed the pitch speed limit and throw 102.

Clase comes to mind. It’s an argument on if Cleveland would move him or not. Probably for an overwhelming
package.

I’m not sure if Bard (Col) hits 99 in the game or if he just gets close. But I know he’s got wicked velocity and I’m sure he’s attainable.

Matt Bush with Texas still hits 99 regularly IRL but I’m not sure if the game is still giving him that love or not. He would be attainable too.

[kinsmen7]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Friar gave you some solid options here. Someone I’ve been looking at for my own franchise with the Rangers is Glasnow as I’ve read the Rays have considered moving him to clear up some cap space. He doesn’t fit your needs though as he’s not immediately ready for you. So much of who Texas can bring back revolves around, are you willing to deal Winn? I think your answer should be no. Winn has great projections. But because of that, he increases what you can get back really quickly. A guy like Castillo, I can’t imagine Texas making that work without Winn. A guy like Mahle who I like a lot more for Texas, you can make that work.

For either Mahle or Means, I think sending a return of Duran, Howard, White and Roby gets a deal done. Cincy/Oakland can send back a low value reliever or PTBNL just to get the deal done on the show. Texas loses some serious pitching depth but it’s worth it for either of those arms. More importantly, it gives you this as a potential 2023 rotation:

Means/Mahle
Gray
Dunning
Leiter
Winn

In 2024 that could easily be:

Leiter
Means/Mahle
Winn
Gray
Dunning

All of that being said, I like to have a non-Ranger fan give my Ranger trade proposals a thumbs up before I say they’re good to go. I do my best to avoid bias but I think it happens to everyone with their favorite team on occasion.

Non-Rangers fan, chiming in late, because I didn't see anyone else give you the thumbs up!

Package looks fine for Means, and pretty dang close (close enough for here!) for Mahle. The Reds are one of the most confusing teams in baseball, because they look like they'll try to "compete", but also like to shed salary. Agree completely that for Castillo, you're moving Winn, *but(!!!)*, what's the chances that you could eat Moose's contract? I mean, it'd kinda be gaming the system to drop Castillo's value down to $25ish mil, but if you still overpaid by 8-10 mil, that'd be a fun little add! Moose+Castillo for a bit less than you're proposed package (headliner prospects still there) would be a solid move for a Rangers team looking to compete.

That being said, very good chance Castillo nets a "Berrios-esque" package at the deadline, which is higher end than what you should be willing to offer.

[forme95]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Clase comes to mind. It’s an argument on if Cleveland would move him or not. Probably for an overwhelming
package.

Cleveland just gave him a 5 year extension. I'd assume it would take a really good package, at least for this season.

[MrSerendipity]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I've decided I'm going to start a Pirates franchise this year. I usually do one with Texas and another with a rebuilding team. I'm not going to make any moves until closer to the deadline of the first season. I want to see how some players do before I decide who is moving in and who is moving out. My biggest hang-up is Reynolds.

My issue, I'm trying to keep this as realistic as possible. Well, as realistic as the game will allow me to be, considering I'm not going to 30 team control. I want to operate within the confines of a Pirates budget. Their highest budget in recent years was 99M in 2016 so I'll likely try not to stretch beyond 95M. Reynolds has obviously been a hot name this off-season and it makes sense, he's worth a lot. I can't decide if I should move him at the deadline and really put a nail in this rebuild. Or if I should be stubborn, hold on to Reynolds and try to build something around him quicker.

Here are two deals I was thinking about making, please give a thumbs up or knock it straight down if you think it's a terrible deal. Number one is probably a major stretch but I know the two teams have talked and the Mariners previously shut down Pittsburgh when they asked for J-Rod. Number two, I personally feel good about. That break-up seems imminent and I can play him at first while Philadelphia's weak bullpen gets a tad bit stronger in the later innings.

[Beastboy2335]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I've decided I'm going to start a Pirates franchise this year. I usually do one with Texas and another with a rebuilding team. I'm not going to make any moves until closer to the deadline of the first season. I want to see how some players do before I decide who is moving in and who is moving out. My biggest hang-up is Reynolds.

My issue, I'm trying to keep this as realistic as possible. Well, as realistic as the game will allow me to be, considering I'm not going to 30 team control. I want to operate within the confines of a Pirates budget. Their highest budget in recent years was 99M in 2016 so I'll likely try not to stretch beyond 95M. Reynolds has obviously been a hot name this off-season and it makes sense, he's worth a lot. I can't decide if I should move him at the deadline and really put a nail in this rebuild. Or if I should be stubborn, hold on to Reynolds and try to build something around him quicker.

Here are two deals I was thinking about making, please give a thumbs up or knock it straight down if you think it's a terrible deal. Number one is probably a major stretch but I know the two teams have talked and the Mariners previously shut down Pittsburgh when they asked for J-Rod. Number two, I personally feel good about. That break-up seems imminent and I can play him at first while Philadelphia's weak bullpen gets a tad bit stronger in the later innings.

The Mariners trade feels very on-par for the Pirates as far as transitioning from Reynolds to a seamless replacement as well as getting their hands on some upside arms. The Phillies trade feels alright, but IMO could be better with different parts. The Phillies' major league and minor league outfield both feel pretty full and the Pirates are on the opposite side of the spectrum in that regard (also well off at 3B for the next 8 yrs). With that being said a return of OF Johan Rojas, LHP Erik Miller, RHP Hans Crouse brings a value of 18.3 to Bednar's 18.8 and feels more on par for the needs of the system.

[rab912]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

That Bohm trade might more sense now after he said he hates it in Philly. He said he was being sarcastic, but I doubt that lol. I think he needs a change of scenery, might think about doing that in my Pirates franchise.

I've decided I'm going to start a Pirates franchise this year. I usually do one with Texas and another with a rebuilding team. I'm not going to make any moves until closer to the deadline of the first season. I want to see how some players do before I decide who is moving in and who is moving out. My biggest hang-up is Reynolds.

My issue, I'm trying to keep this as realistic as possible. Well, as realistic as the game will allow me to be, considering I'm not going to 30 team control. I want to operate within the confines of a Pirates budget. Their highest budget in recent years was 99M in 2016 so I'll likely try not to stretch beyond 95M. Reynolds has obviously been a hot name this off-season and it makes sense, he's worth a lot. I can't decide if I should move him at the deadline and really put a nail in this rebuild. Or if I should be stubborn, hold on to Reynolds and try to build something around him quicker.

Here are two deals I was thinking about making, please give a thumbs up or knock it straight down if you think it's a terrible deal. Number one is probably a major stretch but I know the two teams have talked and the Mariners previously shut down Pittsburgh when they asked for J-Rod. Number two, I personally feel good about. That break-up seems imminent and I can play him at first while Philadelphia's weak bullpen gets a tad bit stronger in the later innings.

[swatkins1978]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Looking for a RP or a SP that I can convert to a RP that throws gas. Looking for someone that has a real possibility to be available, not like Chapman or something.



Looking someone who throws 99+. Extra props if they have the quirk that allows them to exceed the pitch speed limit and throw 102.

Edward Cabrera
Garret Crochet
Nate Pearson
Dustin May

All are SP with gas who have pitched in relief in the past.


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[MrSerendipity]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

The Mariners trade feels very on-par for the Pirates as far as transitioning from Reynolds to a seamless replacement as well as getting their hands on some upside arms. The Phillies trade feels alright, but IMO could be better with different parts. The Phillies' major league and minor league outfield both feel pretty full and the Pirates are on the opposite side of the spectrum in that regard (also well off at 3B for the next 8 yrs). With that being said a return of OF Johan Rojas, LHP Erik Miller, RHP Hans Crouse brings a value of 18.3 to Bednar's 18.8 and feels more on par for the needs of the system.

I think the Phillies trade you suggested is a better trade for the Pirates future for sure. That said, I'm kind of targeting Bohm here. I know 3B is locked up but I like the idea of moving Bohm over to first over Vogelbach and seeing if I can't squeeze better production out of him.

That Bohm trade might more sense now after he said he hates it in Philly. He said he was being sarcastic, but I doubt that lol. I think he needs a change of scenery, might think about doing that in my Pirates franchise.

That kind of sparked it for me. That and all of the pre-season trade chatter. I like the idea of replacing Vogelbach and Bohm seems like a solid fit.

[jd12hornets]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I've decided I'm going to start a Pirates franchise this year. I usually do one with Texas and another with a rebuilding team. I'm not going to make any moves until closer to the deadline of the first season. I want to see how some players do before I decide who is moving in and who is moving out. My biggest hang-up is Reynolds.

My issue, I'm trying to keep this as realistic as possible. Well, as realistic as the game will allow me to be, considering I'm not going to 30 team control. I want to operate within the confines of a Pirates budget. Their highest budget in recent years was 99M in 2016 so I'll likely try not to stretch beyond 95M. Reynolds has obviously been a hot name this off-season and it makes sense, he's worth a lot. I can't decide if I should move him at the deadline and really put a nail in this rebuild. Or if I should be stubborn, hold on to Reynolds and try to build something around him quicker.

Here are two deals I was thinking about making, please give a thumbs up or knock it straight down if you think it's a terrible deal. Number one is probably a major stretch but I know the two teams have talked and the Mariners previously shut down Pittsburgh when they asked for J-Rod. Number two, I personally feel good about. That break-up seems imminent and I can play him at first while Philadelphia's weak bullpen gets a tad bit stronger in the later innings.

I'm an M's fan and there is no way I would do that trade. I like Reynolds a lot but the Mariners outfield is probably their most stacked position in their org. They have J-Rod, Haniger, Kelenic, Winker and Kyle Lewis. Brash made the starting rotation this year as a 23 year old and has a ton of upside and some of the nastiest breaking pitches in the majors. Hancock is their 2nd best pitching prospect in the org. and projects as a mid-rotation to top 2 starter. Kelenic was a top 6 prospect last year in baseball. That is a huge overpay for the Mariners.

[MrSerendipity]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

I'm an M's fan and there is no way I would do that trade. I like Reynolds a lot but the Mariners outfield is probably their most stacked position in their org. They have J-Rod, Haniger, Kelenic, Winker and Kyle Lewis. Brash made the starting rotation this year as a 23 year old and has a ton of upside and some of the nastiest breaking pitches in the majors. Hancock is their 2nd best pitching prospect in the org. and projects as a mid-rotation to top 2 starter. Kelenic was a top 6 prospect last year in baseball. That is a huge overpay for the Mariners.

Value wise, Seattle actually underpays for this deal. I think Kelenic's value took a slight hit after his performance last season and that may be why. That said, I've struggled with this deal too because it does feel like a lot. That is why guys like Reynolds are difficult to build trades around because being realistic, value for value, they require a lot in return.

I'm going to axe this one and keep brainstorming. It could be that I decide to keep Reynolds in the long run.

[jd12hornets]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

Value wise, Seattle actually underpays for this deal. I think Kelenic's value took a slight hit after his performance last season and that may be why. That said, I've struggled with this deal too because it does feel like a lot. That is why guys like Reynolds are difficult to build trades around because being realistic, value for value, they require a lot in return.

I'm going to axe this one and keep brainstorming. It could be that I decide to keep Reynolds in the long run.

Yeah I understand the current values and I think I would be more inclined if the Mariner's were hurting in the OF for quality players. Reynolds definitely is probably entering his prime and will be a stud for many more years to come but I don't think his timeline and age fits as nicely with most of the rest of the Seattle young guys they have. Prospects like Brash, Kelenic, and Hancock are always a risk because they may not pan out but if 2 of those 3 end up being really good I would look back on this trade and not be happy. Also M's aren't contending for a WS this year or next so I am more inclined to roll the dice with the young guys and hope they all develop.