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  • Archie56
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 1556

    #286
    Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

    Originally posted by Jeffrey99
    But it doesn't really matter how big of a task it was. It had to be in. Just like when the NFL went to an 18-week schedule, Madden *had* to incorporate it. No matter how big or small the task was.
    Trust me, I'm not denying the fact that it HAD to be in. My point was that we don't know how easy or hard it is to code this stuff so we shouldn't say things like "they could easily do this or that". That's all. I don't mind being wrong about stuff. I'm probably wrong about things every day lol just ask my wife [emoji1787]

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52760

      #287
      Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

      Originally posted by ninertravel
      Yeah ok whatever you say I never said anything as 'fact' it was an opinion and you took it as a fact. but hey only what you say is correct and 100% right because you got to talk to the Devs so only your thoughts and opinions matter.

      if I say the sky is blue in the game you will find a way to argue with me.

      move on. I am tired of your attacks against me every single god damm thread so do me a favor and ignore me (and yourself)
      At no point in the statements you made did you present them as anything other than fact. You even doubled down the second time stating they "COULD if they wanted to". This was preceeded with your smartass comment about "typical response from you"

      But hey go ahead and play the victim angle. Fitting for you.
      Last edited by countryboy; 03-15-2023, 07:25 AM.
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      • LegendKillerOne
        MVP
        • Jan 2019
        • 1764

        #288
        Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

        Originally posted by Archie56
        Trust me, I'm not denying the fact that it HAD to be in. My point was that we don't know how easy or hard it is to code this stuff so we shouldn't say things like "they could easily do this or that". That's all. I don't mind being wrong about stuff. I'm probably wrong about things every day lol just ask my wife [emoji1787]

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        Bingo, Nobody in here does video game coding for a living so nobody in here has a clue really on how hard it is to add something to the game or not add something. You 100% correct.

        I have played world of warcraft on and off for over 18 years. They have gone through so many coders since they game launched in 2004. There are many bugs some of them so small like a simple how to get an order of names to be in alpha order like it used to be 10 years earlier. And if you ask them how is this still not fixed they flat out tell you. We can not find the correct way to change that coding without jacking up other code.

        none of us are coders and know how it works. Its easy for us to throw stones at people who make games when all we do is play them. The world we live in we all want want want want and could care less how we get it. Sad that it is that way but true
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        • KnightTemplar
          MVP
          • Feb 2017
          • 3282

          #289
          Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

          Originally posted by LegendKillerOne
          Bingo, Nobody in here does video game coding for a living so nobody in here has a clue really on how hard it is to add something to the game or not add something.

          none of us are coders and know how it works. Its easy for us to throw stones at people who make games when all we do is play them. The world we live in we all want want want want and could care less how we get it. Sad that it is that way but true
          Hallelujah! With that said…..enjoy this wonderful gift we have. If you can’t….oh, well.

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          • ty5oke
            87%
            • Feb 2003
            • 2912

            #290
            Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

            As a coder at a large company for over 12 years, I agree that adding something like a new playoff structure via patch last season was a task probably not feasible. Not worth it to touch something that has so many moving pieces and risk breaking the logic of franchise, when you can include it in next years game with full life cycle. What I don't like is things like adding in-game highlights or a nighlty/weekly recap show can't be added? Stuff that are added to franchise mode that shouldn't affect the already defined base structure shouldn't be hard to implement.

            It seems to be a matter of priority and resources for the team, it seems like a very small amount of resources can be used on franchise improvements. More resources are used for DD, which more people play and more money is made, so I don't blame it. Just the way it is.
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            • xxvii
              Rookie
              • Mar 2020
              • 47

              #291
              Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

              would tracking minor league stats over multiple years on their player page break the entire code lol

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              • jcar0725
                "ADAPT OR DIE"
                • Aug 2010
                • 3821

                #292
                Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                Originally posted by ty5oke
                As a coder at a large company for over 12 years, I agree that adding something like a new playoff structure via patch last season was a task probably not feasible. Not worth it to touch something that has so many moving pieces and risk breaking the logic of franchise, when you can include it in next years game with full life cycle. What I don't like is things like adding in-game highlights or a nighlty/weekly recap show can't be added? Stuff that are added to franchise mode that shouldn't affect the already defined base structure shouldn't be hard to implement.

                It seems to be a matter of priority and resources for the team, it seems like a very small amount of resources can be used on franchise improvements. More resources are used for DD, which more people play and more money is made, so I don't blame it. Just the way it is.
                Not to sound like a jerk but how can you implement an in-game highlight from another game, like, a game that didn't happen on your screen? I can't see how that would be possible.
                JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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                • ty5oke
                  87%
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 2912

                  #293
                  Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                  Originally posted by jcar0725
                  Not to sound like a jerk but how can you implement an in-game highlight from another game, like, a game that didn't happen on your screen? I can't see how that would be possible.
                  It's very much possible. The game is simmed so it knows the play outcomes for the game, ala if someone hit a 3 run HR. You can fake or create it as much as the sim engine is detailed. If all you know is Soto hit a 3 run HR, you just plug in the details needed to create a hr from a CPU/CPU game and show it. They have the debug capabilities to create certain outcomes via things like exit velo/angle/runners on, they have showed these in previous feature premieres but unsure if those are used when games are simming.
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                  • ty5oke
                    87%
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 2912

                    #294
                    Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                    Originally posted by xxvii
                    would tracking minor league stats over multiple years on their player page break the entire code lol
                    Didn't they say this was a data limitation in PS4 time frame? I thought PS5 was going to change that for the game.
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                    • jcar0725
                      "ADAPT OR DIE"
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3821

                      #295
                      Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                      Originally posted by ty5oke
                      It's very much possible. The game is simmed so it knows the play outcomes for the game, ala if someone hit a 3 run HR. You can fake or create it as much as the sim engine is detailed. If all you know is Soto hit a 3 run HR, you just plug in the details needed to create a hr from a CPU/CPU game and show it. They have the debug capabilities to create certain outcomes via things like exit velo/angle/runners on, they have showed these in previous feature premieres but unsure if those are used when games are simming.
                      So it would have to load both of those teams from that highlight, and the stadium being played in, and do that each day for all 15 teams for every day on the schedule. Not including your own team that you control.
                      JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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                      • ty5oke
                        87%
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 2912

                        #296
                        Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                        Originally posted by jcar0725
                        So it would have to load both of those teams from that highlight, and the stadium being played in, and do that each day for all 15 teams for every day on the schedule. Not including your own team that you control.
                        I don't know if I would do all 15 games but you can load the stadiums (I'd even be fine with lower res to save time). Even run it earlier on a background thread so it loads everything and all you have to do is render. Think NFL 2k5 or CHOOPS 2k8 highlight show, that's what I've always wanted in this game.
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                        • soxfanbs91
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 309

                          #297
                          Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                          Originally posted by ty5oke
                          Didn't they say this was a data limitation in PS4 time frame? I thought PS5 was going to change that for the game.
                          Well as long as the game continues to come out for a previous gen system, it's going to be held back unfortunately.

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                          • ripwalk
                            Pro
                            • May 2009
                            • 531

                            #298
                            Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                            The new scouting and draft system seems promising, but I'm surprised no one mentioned this ...

                            In the video they showed, the team they ended up simming scouting with had the 4th overall pick. When it came time for their pick in the draft, there were multiple top 10 prospect ranking guys who were still at only 10% scouted.

                            I don't think that's at all realistic, that a team that picks in the top 5, wouldn't have at least scouted all the top 10 prospects to SOME degree.

                            I worry that the AI logic for how they plan their scouting priorities wasn't super well tuned.

                            I guess we will have to see how it all works in reality, but I wish the % scouted was also less of an all or nothing type thing. I feel like too many of the top prospects being only 10% scouted by draft day isn't particularly realistic.

                            It might be nice if all the top 150 draft board prospects gained some % of scouting accuracy each week (say 2% a week), so even if you don't specifically target certain guys, you'd still have a bit better of a rough idea of all the 'top' guys which I think is much more true to life.

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                            • ninertravel
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 4833

                              #299
                              Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              At no point in the statements you made did you present them as anything other than fact. You even doubled down the second time stating they "COULD if they wanted to". This was preceeded with your smartass comment about "typical response from you"

                              But hey go ahead and play the victim angle. Fitting for you.
                              OH BS don't give me that crap I never said it was a FACT at all you just took at as me saying it was. yeah in my opinion I think they COULD have done it anything is possible in any world but the priority wasn't there (as I also noted) don't take that as fact take that as what I think.

                              imagine if I say the astros will win the world series again. you will take that as me saying it's a FACT in your books and everyone else is wrong.

                              This is what you do you don't just do it to me either someone says something slightly off about the game or a different matter of opinion and you go off at them.
                              Last edited by ninertravel; 03-15-2023, 03:39 PM.

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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52760

                                #300
                                Re: MLB The Show 23 Franchise, MTO, Presentation and Commentary Feature Premiere Brea

                                Originally posted by ninertravel
                                OH BS don't give me that crap I never said it was a FACT at all you just took at as me saying it was. yeah in my opinion I think they COULD have done it anything is possible in any world but the priority wasn't there (as I also noted) don't take that as fact take that as what I think.

                                imagine if I say the astros will win the world series again. you will take that as me saying it's a FACT in your books and everyone else is wrong.

                                This is what you do you don't just do it to me either someone says something slightly off about the game or a different matter of opinion and you go off at them.
                                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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