MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

[DirtBallNation]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

As I quickly skimmed through the whole thread about this.. Couple of things I noticed.

A. I am not about the CountryBoy slander.. Maybe i'm jealous of his focus when it comes the The Show and how well he can stay with 1 Franchise throughout the duration of the year.

B. I'm STOKED about these new changes. Its always never enough (and maybe people like me are "apart of the problem") but I like a refreshed game every year with some new gadgets and features that we didn't have before. The Free Agency part alone is enough to get it (from the looks of it). Contracts seem to be a little bit more in line, rather than a 90+ OVR Free Agent getting a 3yr/12-16mil deal.

I hope for all of us that play Franchise religiously, are excited for these changes. Obviously the big thing on my list is more trade slots.. but until then, I'm excited to play this game in 10 days.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

I'm STOKED about these new changes. Its always never enough (and maybe people like me are "apart of the problem") but I like a refreshed game every year with some new gadgets and features that we didn't have before.

Whatever faults the Show has, I don't think consumers like you and me are a problem. I just think we have decided to not let those problems interfere with our enjoyment of the game. Yeah, no doubt the flaws exist, but each person has to decide if flaws are going to be what defines the game. If I ever felt the flaws made up more of the Show than anything else, I just wouldn't buy the game. Thankfully I haven't felt that way.
And I'd probably cut Country Boy some slack if he retired that Cardinal franchise and upgraded to a superior Mets organization.

[MiracleMet718]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Whatever faults the Show has, I don't think consumers like you and me are a problem. I just think we have decided to not let those problems interfere with our enjoyment of the game. Yeah, no doubt the flaws exist, but each person has to decide if flaws are going to be what defines the game. If I ever felt the flaws made up more of the Show than anything else, I just wouldn't buy the game. Thankfully I haven't felt that way.
And I'd probably cut Country Boy some slack if he retired that Cardinal franchise and upgraded to a superior Mets organization.

Gaming is and escape from reality for me. I go play for an hour or so just to have fun. I’d like realism and certain things fixed, but I don’t sweat the small stuff and if the game doesn’t seem like it’s something I’m interested in, I move on and look again next year. I stopped feeling like I have to buy every new years’ game awhile ago. Will definitely be getting this one though.

[AUTiger1]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Honestly if we want to be realistic there shouldn’t even be RP or CP in the draft. There is pretty much no such thing as a relief pitcher prospect or relief pitcher draft pick. Nearly all MLB bullpen guys are just failed starting prospects

That is old school thinking. Now days teams do indeed draft pitchers who are closer only pitchers. Guys like Craig Kimbrel and A.J. Minter were drafted for the sole purpose of being closers only and each were high round draft picks.

[Cod]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

That is old school thinking. Now days teams do indeed draft pitchers who are closer only pitchers. Guys like Craig Kimbrel and A.J. Minter were drafted for the sole purpose of being closers only and each were high round draft picks.

Kimbrel was a starter in HS and was a spot starter in college. If you look at prospect guides, draft boards, etc. for the previous 5+ drafts, you'll notice all pitchers are labeled RHP or LHP. The moniker of who's a starter vs reliever is mostly decided by the player development staff. The same concept is starting to apply to all positions (other than catcher). Notice you now see INF or OF with only occasionally a very specific position.

[JDL375]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Think we’ll be able to edit coaches this year? They always give the Yankees third base coach high socks and he doesn’t wear them in real life and it flares my OCD. I’d love to be able to just fix it myself.

[MiracleMet718]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Think we’ll be able to edit coaches this year? They always give the Yankees third base coach high socks and he doesn’t wear them in real life and it flares my OCD. I’d love to be able to just fix it myself.

Editing coaches will not be in this year.

[AUTiger1]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Kimbrel was a starter in HS and was a spot starter in college. If you look at prospect guides, draft boards, etc. for the previous 5+ drafts, you'll notice all pitchers are labeled RHP or LHP. The moniker of who's a starter vs reliever is mostly decided by the player development staff. The same concept is starting to apply to all positions (other than catcher). Notice you now see INF or OF with only occasionally a very specific position.

When the Braves drafted Kimbrel they had absolutely no intentions of him ever being a starting pitcher. Kimbrel never started a single game in the minors with the Braves because that wasn't the plan. He was drafted and developed to be a closer and Billy Wagner was instrumental in his development.


They did the same thing with A.J. Minter and prior to Kimbrel, Joey Devine. Braves were having closer issues in 2005 and drafted Devine in the 1st round of the draft that summer, with the intention of him being a closer, and 2 months later he was in the majors. Out of over 800 professional games Kimbrel has 2 starts, both rehab games, one with the Red Sox and the other with the Cubs.

Ben Joyce with the Angels is another one that has recently been drafted and developed as a closer. With the way teams use the bullpens these days they are specifically targeting pitchers that they can draft and develop as closers.


I get what you're saying about the way they're labeled, but that's different than you saying that bullpen arms are only failed starting pitchers and that teams don't develop pitchers as closers. That's just wrong. Back in the day, yes, most bullpen arms were failed starters like Mariano Rivera and Eric Gagne and loads of others. Even a lot of successful starters like Mark Buehrle started their careers pitching out of the bullpen to earn their way into the rotation. But things have changed with the bullpens becoming almost more important than starting pitching that teams now specifically draft and develop bullpen arms.


It also works the other way too. Blake Burkhalter, who the Braves drafted in 2022, was Auburn's closer and never started a game for them. But the Braves have turned him into a starting pitcher.

[Cod]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

I get what you're saying about the way they're labeled, but that's different than you saying that bullpen arms are only failed starting pitchers and that teams don't develop pitchers as closers. That's just wrong.

I never stated bullpen arms are only failed starting pitchers.

[Cod]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Think we’ll be able to edit coaches this year? They always give the Yankees third base coach high socks and he doesn’t wear them in real life and it flares my OCD. I’d love to be able to just fix it myself.

I never fully grasped why the game didn't have real coaches prior to this year. Managers fell under MLBPA licensing rules until recently (language changed in November 2024). I'd love to see managers / coaches have a more meaningful role in franchise beyond the limited rating additions/subtractions, but I'm not sure we'll ever see that.

[The Kid 24]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Editing coaches will not be in this year.

Do you have some sort of insider knowledge? You seem to know a lot of things that won't be in the game.

[MiracleMet718]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Do you have some sort of insider knowledge? You seem to know a lot of things that won't be in the game.

Because if it was an option, they would’ve mentioned it during the Franchise live stream and they didn’t. They might skip over new face scans or minor things like that, but a feature like editing coaches would be covered if it was in the game.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Because if it was an option, they would’ve mentioned it during the Franchise live stream and they didn’t. They might skip over new face scans or minor things like that, but a feature like editing coaches would be covered if it was in the game.

That is a reasonable assumption. And I agree with you. It would have been mentioned. They know that has been a big community ask.

[bryanm1982]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

I think what they should do with the pitchers in the draft is have SP and CP. You are going to draft a RP for the hope they become a great closer. Most likely, you aren't going to draft a MRP that you want to pitch in the 6th inning. Maybe they have too many RP/CP players in the draft?

[MetsFan16]

MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

I handle RP/CP differently.

In my franchise there are no “CP”. I change them all to RP

If they are the highest rated RP on the team, they assume the closers role.