MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

[countryboy]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Correct. The NDA is in place so people have questions in their minds, hope things will be included and buy the game. Marketing 101. Don't give all the details if you don't have to, especially if it's going to adversely affect sales.

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If there is something in particular that a customer is wanting in a game, why not wait until its confirmed that what they are wanting is in the game before buying?

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[invincible]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

If there is something in particular that a customer is wanting in a game, why not wait until its confirmed that what they are wanting is in the game before buying?



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Why not say, "I don't know the answer" rather than saying, "I can't say because of an NDA?"

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[MiracleMet718]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

If there is something in particular that a customer is wanting in a game, why not wait until its confirmed that what they are wanting is in the game before buying?

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I thought we were getting the KBO in this years game. I hold you personally responsible for not warning me that it was not in and will be taking legal action against you and SDS.

[countryboy]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Why not say, "I don't know the answer" rather than saying, "I can't say because of an NDA?"

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You're not gonna like this......because of the NDA

But if I said I don't know the answer versus I can't say because of NDA, does that mean the customer will then wait for confirmation of something being in the game before buying?

Me: I can't say because of NDA
Customer: They are being deceitful, so I'll buy the game and hope that what I want in is actually in the game.


Me: I don't know the answer
Customer: Ok I'll wait before purchasing the game until I know for sure.

[SonnyWest]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

There was a nice little shoutout to the roster being put out in ‘25. It was quick but they did say that a lot of work was put into the minor league system. Very curious to see the condition that they are in and how much editing is required.


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[jcar0725]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Yes if you use meter. For pinpoint or classic, I think it balances it out since there isn’t a “power” meter for them. But if it’s manage mode then it doesn’t impact it.

For classic, there is a max effort pitch option.

[ballymcballface]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

For the top 150 free agents its the new FA system outside of the top 150 free agents contracts revert back to the old system from years past. So options front load /backload are still there just not to the top 150 FA in any given year

Regarding Progression regression
There is not a 10 year mark
There is a range of prime ages and a die roll determines trajectory.
Performance has an impact but after the age of 31 father time creeps in
We've also made adjustments to potentials in the past system took all 30 year old players and adjusted the potentials to match the overall
We changed that so the potential stays at what there designed to have that slows regression

All info on YouTube via theantortiz

Ah, so I think you can still sign some ancillary/depth guys relatively early without screwing up your Big Board. That makes me feel better.

[MetsFan16]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

For the top 150 free agents its the new FA system outside of the top 150 free agents contracts revert back to the old system from years past. So options front load /backload are still there just not to the top 150 FA in any given year

Regarding Progression regression
There is not a 10 year mark
There is a range of prime ages and a die roll determines trajectory.
Performance has an impact but after the age of 31 father time creeps in
We've also made adjustments to potentials in the past system took all 30 year old players and adjusted the potentials to match the overall
We changed that so the potential stays at what there designed to have that slows regression

All info on YouTube via theantortiz

I saw the same video but I think he was wrong about it only being top 150 free agents

In the 2 hr deep dive they showed a tab of All free agents and scrolled to the way bottom of ~40 OVR players

I think all free agents during offseason are signed via the big board. And during the season it gets reverted back to old style

Could be wrong, I haven’t gone back to double check


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[tessl]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

It’s not just pitches thrown though, that’s my point. 50 stamina is still too low in my opinion and I think all starters should be over 60/65, but your stamina decreases at a rate based on:

Pitches Thrown
Hits Given Up
Hard/Soft contact (either hits or outs)
Runners on base
Runs given up
Number or walks
Number of strikeouts
Pitcher confidence (which changes based on all of the above minus pitchers thrown)

This has been a thing with pitching in the show for years as it simulates pitchers working either hard or easy innings based on the above. In regard to manage mode, if you have pitchers in the MLB under high 60s/low 70s overall, it usually means their per/9 stats are pretty low and it compounds the low stamina because they usually get hit around a lot.

As I mentioned, in your first video, your 55 overall rated pitcher got through the 3rd and had around 75% stamina left. In the latest video, your pitcher gave up 6 runs in an inning and worked hard, so their stamina took an additional hit on top of just the pitches thrown.

Definitely needs some tweaking and agree that I hope the draft fixes for RP/CP makes it better for getting SPs, but it’s not as drastic as you would think.

I'm curious where you acquired that information because I seems linear with pitches thrown in manage mode. I've always though it directly tied to pitches thrown.

He threw more pitches in the second video. Regarding my videos you are correct but standard pitches per inning is around 15 and a picher with 50's or 60's stamina is going to be in the penalty area by the fourth inning on a regular basis. On a good day he might get through 5 but that's not a guy you want in your rotation other than as a spot starter.

I don't want to irritate people but for the purpose of discussion I could try it again and post another video. Would you like to see that?

[MiracleMet718]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

I'm curious where you acquired that information because I seems linear with pitches thrown in manage mode. I've always though it directly tied to pitches thrown.

He threw more pitches in the second video. Regarding my videos you are correct but standard pitches per inning is around 15 and a picher with 50's or 60's stamina is going to be in the penalty area by the fourth inning on a regular basis. On a good day he might get through 5 but that's not a guy you want in your rotation other than as a spot starter.

I don't want to irritate people but for the purpose of discussion I could try it again and post another video. Would you like to see that?

No worries man. I don’t come on here to get in personal arguments with people, just trying to assist or learn info where I can haha.

As for where I found it, I’ll see if I can find something on the MLBTS forums, but they explained it back in like MLBTS 08. It’s been in the game for a long time, pretty much since they added pitcher confidence. It’s more noticeable when you actually play instead of manage, just because you know what power you are using on meter mode so I find I would check the stamina bar more that way. It’s also really noticeable in DD because you have guys with 95-99 stamina who are absolutely cooked after 3-4 innings because they got rocked early. So it can even happen to players with really high stamina, but it does impact both playing and manage mode.

Pretty much the key to pitchers in The Show is having a high H/9 to limit contact and a decent K/9. Anything over 80 and you’ll see guys with even lower stamina last longer because they aren’t giving up as many hits or hard contact and they are getting more Ks. Doesn’t work like that every game, but it evens out over the season in franchise. So if your pitcher you showed had higher attributes levels for both, you’d see him last longer in a game. Thats why I don’t use starters with overalls lower than 70 in those two attributes as regular starters because anything lower than that and they become ineffective most of the time.

[tessl]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

No worries man. I don’t come on here to get in personal arguments with people, just trying to assist or learn info where I can haha.

As for where I found it, I’ll see if I can find something on the MLBTS forums, but they explained it back in like MLBTS 08. It’s been in the game for a long time, pretty much since they added pitcher confidence. It’s more noticeable when you actually play instead of manage, just because you know what power you are using on meter mode so I find I would check the stamina bar more that way. It’s also really noticeable in DD because you have guys with 95-99 stamina who are absolutely cooked after 3-4 innings because they got rocked early. So it can even happen to players with really high stamina, but it does impact both playing and manage mode.

Pretty much the key to pitchers in The Show is having a high H/9 to limit contact and a decent K/9. Anything over 80 and you’ll see guys with even lower stamina last longer because they aren’t giving up as many hits or hard contact and they are getting more Ks. Doesn’t work like that every game, but it evens out over the season in franchise. So if your pitcher you showed had higher attributes levels for both, you’d see him last longer in a game. Thats why I don’t use starters with overalls lower than 70 in those two attributes as regular starters because anything lower than that and they become ineffective most of the time.

I'm always willing to learn and discuss the game. I think what you were saying is pitcher confidence is a factor and is impacted by the things you listed. However I think stamina follows a linear patch and once it gets to 25% it overrides confidence as attributes decline.

I agree pitcher confidence is a factor. There used to be an option to turn it off but it was still on and you could see the confidence bar change and at one time before the 25% stamina threshold was introduced confidence was a huge factor in the game and a pitcher with high confidence would never leave the game. The 25% threshold was a great improvement. Pitchers confidence is a factor but not as large as it used to be based upon my observations.

One reason why in manage mode I look for pitchers with 80+ stamina with good h/9 and batters with contact/vision and if possible discipline who can extend plate appearance. I also turn DH off and with bases empty I have my pitcher take 2 strikes before giving him the green light. Run up the pitch count. Get the opposing pitcher in the stamina penalty area. It has been an effective strategy for me.

[Stucatz]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

This was in an article i read. Is this something extra we don't know about


They have to decide which young players to develop, which experienced players to keep, and which ones to trade, all while staying within a budget. Managing resources also involves improving scouting and training facilities, funding player development programs, and investing in new technology to stay competitive.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

This was in an article i read. Is this something extra we don't know about


They have to decide which young players to develop, which experienced players to keep, and which ones to trade, all while staying within a budget. Managing resources also involves improving scouting and training facilities, funding player development programs, and investing in new technology to stay competitive.

Link to that article please.

[bronxbombers21325]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

This was in an article i read. Is this something extra we don't know about


They have to decide which young players to develop, which experienced players to keep, and which ones to trade, all while staying within a budget. Managing resources also involves improving scouting and training facilities, funding player development programs, and investing in new technology to stay competitive.

Where can we find the article? I haven't heard any of that.

[Stucatz]

Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

Link to that article please.

https://screenrant.com/mlb-the-show-25-franchise-mode-explained/

If its reliable I can't say but I found this intriguing if true