MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

[countryboy]

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So countryboy

So do you got anything more to say about Franchise that they didn’t show us? You kept telling us to watch the stream, and we did but it showed us virtually nothing. Just an hours worth of free agency…


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Still under NDA

Well I thought he was hinting at bullpen and lineup logic improvements



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I was just suggesting people watch the premiere to get more information on the new offseason experience. When the deep dive took place, people had questions and concerns based on the 5 minute video and I thought they would be better served watching the premiere where they could hear the devs talk about the whys and what fors versus just a brief 5 minute synopsis.

Someone reading more into my comment is their own doing.

[tessl]

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Mixed emotions on the stream. I do like the new Free Agency format. For years we've been hoping for a restructured FA system. The previous system was lackluster. The inability to match final offers, small market teams signing mega contracts. Seemingly random contract offers and agreements while also very easy to manipulate and simply outbid all other teams to keep the interest bar high. All of these factors made FA rather boring and tedious at times.

Having a streamlined and in-depth risk/reward system will be a fun addition to play through and see how good of a GM you really are. I like the idea of having to strategically target specific players and risk losing other FA who want to sign quickly. Rather than offer 10+ contracts and when one player signs you withdraw others you've offered for that position.

I am also in the same boat of you all who were hoping for better bullpen logic. It is frustrating in the current state having some RP pitch less than 30 innings while another has well over 100. I'm going to do my best to ignore and take it for what it is and not get too emotionally attached to sim stats of a CPU bullpen. It's not worth it anymore.

The large majority of franchise players who play the game are MUCH more excited by these Free Agency changes than they would be with improved Bullpen logic. SDS is chasing sales and selling to the masses. Thus, why these legacy issues are not at the forefront of their dev cycles.

It's promising that when they did decide to fix Scouting/Drafting and now Free Agency, it was done right and in-depth. (Perfect? No, never will be)

I can wait patiently and when the time comes that TBarnes and Clayton are given the green light to truly address Roster, Bullpen, Lineup, Rotation, Progression/Regression logic that it'll be done right and thoroughly.

Until then, I will gladly sink another 12 months in my franchise.

I will be doing some test sims to see how FA looks. My biggest gripes in years past has been position stacking. It looks like that was addressed which may let me act as a GM of my one team and not a god over all 30 teams.

I disagree with some of that. They did not get scouting/drafting right and at the end of the video they mentioned briefly that scouting was changed and RP no longer have the same value as before due to community input. I posted a draft video on this forum and in that video one team had only 4 draft picks and spent all of them on RP.

They obviously did a lot of work on free agency and strategy will have to be employed. I've mentioned this before and I'll do it again. They said the big market teams will have an advantage in free agency and salaries will be more realistic which benefits big market franchises. IRL the way small market franchises compete is by drafting 20 players and signing between 20 and 40 more in the international signings. That would be a heavy lift to program and I understand why it isn't in the game but if small market franchises can't sign good free agents and only get 6 or 7 draft picks with international rolled into the 6 or 7 draft picks that severely restricts small market franchises.

They may have made free agency and contracts more realistic but with the same very limited draft options that is far from realistic. They need to significantly improve the quality of players in the draft so that more can develop into MLB level players. Unless I missed it they said nothing about progression which leads me to believe they didn't change it.

They obviously spent a lot of time and some serious thought into franchise and I'm leaning toward buying the game but I can see the problems that will arise. We didn't get the total package.

[MiracleMet718]

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Well I thought he was hinting at bullpen and lineup logic improvements


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I thought he was hinting at relocation and being able to create alternate jerseys. Now I’m highly disappointed since I was lied to.

[Therebelyell626]

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I finally just watched the stream because I had nothing better to do. While not perfect, I do like the new additions because they are far better than the lackluster options we had before. Like others have said I was hoping to see some more of the presentation features like “storyline”, but I did notice that they are trying to make the regional broadcasts feel more authentic. The Red Sox had a “New England” watermark with what looked like a windmill in the corner. I wonder if this means that they have taken additional steps to make each teams broadcasts feel unique in some way. That would be awesome. I think I will end up buying this year. The new additions seem fresh enough to justify it for me. Might wait until first sale though depending on how bad I get the itch.

[SportsGamer89]

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Still under NDA



I was just suggesting people watch the premiere to get more information on the new offseason experience. When the deep dive took place, people had questions and concerns based on the 5 minute video and I thought they would be better served watching the premiere where they could hear the devs talk about the whys and what fors versus just a brief 5 minute synopsis.

Someone reading more into my comment is their own doing.

Well you got us hyped!! Very disappointing [emoji20] lol


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[The Gamer]

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Im too lazy to look but did anyone notice if the tracker was still at the bottom of the screen? Most of the pregame storyline stuff is information thats normally in the tracker. Hope that wasn't removed in lieu of the pregame storyline graphics

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[countryboy]

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Im too lazy to look but did anyone notice if the tracker was still at the bottom of the screen? Most of the pregame storyline stuff is stuff thats normally in the tracker. Hope that wasn't removed in lieu of the pregame storyline graphics

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Yes the news tracker is still at the bottom of the screen during the games.

[breakfastcat]

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A little bit off topic but I really like the lighting in this shot during the stream:

This shot definitely stood out to me too. I think it was specifically chosen to show off some new lighting, because the indirect lighting (where the main light source is obscured and scenes are lit by the light bouncing off the rest of the scene) is quite difficult to pull off in games, especially ones that don't utilize raytracing. The stadium shadow in this scene shows much better indirect lighting than we've seen in previous games.

I also like how the grass appears to have a reflective layer that bounces the light from the sky to look more grounded in the scene and also gives the impression of being slightly damp on what looks like a wet, overcast day.

[tessl]

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What is this supposed to be showing?

There was like 3 innings of gameplay and then you simulated the rest???

You said you wanted to see 3 or 4 innings of a drafted player with low stamina. That's what I showed.

Here. Do you now understand what I was saying about future years in franchise? Apparently in the sim world there are too many complete games which is the opposite of what happens in manage mode and explains why the devs don't see a problem with stamina declining for starting pitchers with already too low stamina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8pd0IKEMA4

Perhaps they have fixed the problem. In their franchise video they did say at the very end that they have changed some things with scouting and the draft. I'll buy the game this year and I guess I'll find out.

[Cycloniac]

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This shot definitely stood out to me too. I think it was specifically chosen to show off some new lighting, because the indirect lighting (where the main light source is obscured and scenes are lit by the light bouncing off the rest of the scene) is quite difficult to pull off in games, especially ones that don't utilize raytracing. The stadium shadow in this scene shows much better indirect lighting than we've seen in previous games.

I also like how the grass appears to have a reflective layer that bounces the light from the sky to look more grounded in the scene and also gives the impression of being slightly damp on what looks like a wet, overcast day.

Yes - if I recall right, this was a fog game, overcast

[Cycloniac]

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Still under NDA



I was just suggesting people watch the premiere to get more information on the new offseason experience. When the deep dive took place, people had questions and concerns based on the 5 minute video and I thought they would be better served watching the premiere where they could hear the devs talk about the whys and what fors versus just a brief 5 minute synopsis.

Someone reading more into my comment is their own doing.

Hey countryboy,

Regarding the NDA, I'm not asking for details but

Can you say, yes or no, if there's any additional franchise details that weren't shared?

If it's no, that's fine. Just don't want to get hopes up.

[tessl]

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I understand that you're making **** up, purposely ignoring facts presented, and talking out of both sides of your mouth because you know you can't prove what you're claiming.

Wow. You are claiming the low stamina in players in the draft isn't a problem. I said in ten years the game will be populated with a lot of starting pitchers who can't pitch beyond 3 or 4 innings. You wanted a video. I posted a video.

Look at his stamina at the end of the 4th inning. AT 58 pitches he is deep into the attribute penalty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8pd0IKEMA4

What part of that isn't accurate? You are aware of the penalty when stamina gets to 20 or 25% right?

[CBoller1331]

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Wow. You are claiming the low stamina in players in the draft isn't a problem. I said in ten years the game will be populated with a lot of starting pitchers who can't pitch beyond 3 or 4 innings. You wanted a video. I posted a video.

Look at his stamina at the end of the 4th inning. AT 58 pitches he is deep into the attribute penalty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8pd0IKEMA4

What part of that isn't accurate? You are aware of the penalty when stamina gets to 20 or 25% right?

I think the reason that he cannot pitch past 4 inning is more due to the fact that he is getting shelled than specifically having low stamina. He gave up 6 runs....of course he's gonna get taken out

[countryboy]

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Wow. You are claiming the low stamina in players in the draft isn't a problem. I said in ten years the game will be populated with a lot of starting pitchers who can't pitch beyond 3 or 4 innings. You wanted a video. I posted a video.

Look at his stamina at the end of the 4th inning. AT 58 pitches he is deep into the attribute penalty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8pd0IKEMA4

What part of that isn't accurate? You are aware of the penalty when stamina gets to 20 or 25% right?

This is a different video than the one shown previously. Surprise surprise...

And in this video he has given up 6 runs thru those innings which it doesn't matter the stamina rating of the pitcher, this is the tipping point for the manager to pull him.

Keep trying

[countryboy]

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Hey countryboy,

Regarding the NDA, I'm not asking for details but

Can you say, yes or no, if there's any additional franchise details that weren't shared?

If it's no, that's fine. Just don't want to get hopes up.

I cannot answer