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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52760

    #106
    Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

    Originally posted by Therebelyell626
    If you think the show is still beating Madden then you are either A) Countryboy or B) Haven’t played Madden in a few years. At least Madden is adding multiple things every year after being stagnant for years. The show didn’t add anything to franchise for almost 7 years, and have only really given us one thing a year for the last two years. The shows franchise is stale. Outside of your own team it feels like the league is dead. However… I am excited about some of the presentation additions this year as I feel they will going a long way to rectifying that last issue. Gameplay wise, yes the show is better than Madden, but there is no way you can say more effort is being put in to franchise at SDS then what has been going on over at EA the last couple of years
    I haven't said one thing in regards to how the Show's franchise compares to other sports titles so.....
    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

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    • eric7064
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 1151

      #107
      Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

      Originally posted by Therebelyell626
      I disagree. While YES, CFB dynasty was “flawed” it was an absolute blast to play. Just ask anyone who played the game. The shows franchise is just not fun to play anymore. It’s stale and more of the same ol same ol. HOWEVER, I do like the additions this year and I am very intrigued. I am looking forward to seeing more Thursday
      I could say the exact same for the show.

      The actual gameplay imo is fantastic. The franchise mode features can be lacking and does not give the mode depth, but the actual product on the field is the best sports simulation around.

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      • Therebelyell626
        MVP
        • Mar 2018
        • 2890

        #108
        Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
        I am a well known 30 team control guy however I only step in because of what you are talking about.

        My hope is with this total revamp I see the CPU controlled teams participate like they should logically in the off-season.

        I am very much looking forward to tomorrow's stream. I think it looks on the surface outstanding and a huge improvement.

        I will still employ 30 team control for lineups and rotations management but I look forward to not having to deal with anything else with this new deeper offseason.

        I am so pumped.
        Originally posted by countryboy
        I haven't said one thing in regards to how the Show's franchise compares to other sports titles so.....
        I know bud, I was just being facetious. Everyone knows your a show ride or die. I was paying homage and not trying to be slanderous lol.

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21793

          #109
          Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

          Originally posted by Therebelyell626
          I know bud, I was just being facetious. Everyone knows your a show ride or die. I was paying homage and not trying to be slanderous lol.
          I am confused why you quoted my post.
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          • MetsFan16
            MVP
            • Nov 2011
            • 1416

            #110
            Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

            I do like the look and freshness this brings to free agency in the offseason.

            I’ve been a 30-team control player and that includes the offseason’s free agency aspect. My main gripe with how CPU handled the free agents was signing top players at a position they already have a quality player/prospect. For example, the Giants signing Willy Adames in 2024 but come 2025 they’ll sign Bo Bichette. Both great SSs.

            My 30team control forced me to oversee all top free agents and place them on a team that had a need and made sense for that player. I’d only have 1 team offer a contract and that’s where they’d end up. It works and it’s fun playing GM for 30 teams. But of course this takes the randomness and “RPG” aspect out of a franchise.

            It looks like the positional depth is a factor in ‘25 along with team competitiveness. I guess we won’t truly know how free agency will play out until release date and tests are run but it’s a bit of a bummer that the biggest area of focus and improvement is on the free agency portion of the offseason.

            There are many glaring issues that are still needing attention, specifically progression/regression.

            Training and coaching playing a factor

            Performance tuning down rapid regression on “agin” players. (10+ service years should not be death sentence)

            But also, bullpen logic, trading options including more than 2 teams, more than 3 players per team.

            I love the fact we are getting into the guts of franchise and not offering ways to simulate as this cycle’s improvements. But can’t help to feel there’s a lot of meat on the bone they’re pushing off to next years game that addresses more niche areas of the mode.
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            • JWDixon120
              Rookie
              • Jul 2012
              • 802

              #111
              Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              I am a well known 30 team control guy however I only step in because of what you are talking about.

              My hope is with this total revamp I see the CPU controlled teams participate like they should logically in the off-season.

              I am very much looking forward to tomorrow's stream. I think it looks on the surface outstanding and a huge improvement.

              I will still employ 30 team control for lineups and rotations management but I look forward to not having to deal with anything else with this new deeper offseason.

              I am so pumped.

              It is long overdue for MLBTS to allow users to edit rules/change user controlled teams while within a season.

              30 team control guy myself and I feel like FA could get crazy to deal with if it’s still necessary.


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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21793

                #112
                Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                Originally posted by MetsFan16
                I do like the look and freshness this brings to free agency in the offseason.

                I’ve been a 30-team control player and that includes the offseason’s free agency aspect. My main gripe with how CPU handled the free agents was signing top players at a position they already have a quality player/prospect. For example, the Giants signing Willy Adames in 2024 but come 2025 they’ll sign Bo Bichette. Both great SSs.

                My 30team control forced me to oversee all top free agents and place them on a team that had a need and made sense for that player. I’d only have 1 team offer a contract and that’s where they’d end up. It works and it’s fun playing GM for 30 teams. But of course this takes the randomness and “RPG” aspect out of a franchise.

                It looks like the positional depth is a factor in ‘25 along with team competitiveness. I guess we won’t truly know how free agency will play out until release date and tests are run but it’s a bit of a bummer that the biggest area of focus and improvement is on the free agency portion of the offseason.

                There are many glaring issues that are still needing attention, specifically progression/regression.

                Training and coaching playing a factor

                Performance tuning down rapid regression on “agin” players. (10+ service years should not be death sentence)

                But also, bullpen logic, trading options including more than 2 teams, more than 3 players per team.

                I love the fact we are getting into the guts of franchise and not offering ways to simulate as this cycle’s improvements. But can’t help to feel there’s a lot of meat on the bone they’re pushing off to next years game that addresses more niche areas of the mode.

                This looks like TBarnes had his hands all over this new Off-Season and my hope is the logic is tuned properly.

                Like you I did a ton of dice rolling in the off-season for the other 29 teams...and while I have fun doing it....my preference is smarter AI to do this so I can be in competition as a GM with the other 29 teams....not holding their hands.

                At the very least we have a new foundation here for the off season....and hopefully we are pleasantly surprised by the logic code written and working fairly well. I don't expect perfection....but I just want good logic.
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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21793

                  #113
                  Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                  Originally posted by JWDixon120
                  It is long overdue for MLBTS to allow users to edit rules/change user controlled teams while within a season.

                  30 team control guy myself and I feel like FA could get crazy to deal with if it’s still necessary.


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                  • Therebelyell626
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 2890

                    #114
                    Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                    I am confused why you quoted my post.
                    Sorry was trying to quote country boy. My bad

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                    • Funkycorm
                      Cleveland Baseball Guru
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 3159

                      #115
                      Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                      I am personally excited about these changes. As someone who sims a lot of seasons, the new off season experience will be refreshing.
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                      • MiracleMet718
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 2051

                        #116
                        Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                        Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                        I disagree. While YES, CFB dynasty was “flawed” it was an absolute blast to play. Just ask anyone who played the game. The shows franchise is just not fun to play anymore. It’s stale and more of the same ol same ol. HOWEVER, I do like the additions this year and I am very intrigued. I am looking forward to seeing more Thursday
                        It was fun at first, but it’s not deep at all. That’s all the initial point was when it was brought up. There are barely any editable settings and it really just came down to play game and recruit, which after you figured out how to do it, it was extremely easy. Great first entry back into the sports gaming scene, but as the other poster said if this game had been out for awhile, they’d view the bare bones nature of the game very differently.

                        Either way, this is a MLBTS thread and as you mentioned, I’m also excited for tomorrow to see more details about the updates to Franchise.

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                        • Ghost Of The Year
                          Turn Left. Repeat.
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 6365

                          #117
                          Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          How about this...

                          ... show what you're claiming.
                          I see what you did there. Tessl is from the Show Me State.
                          T-BONE.

                          Talking about things nobody cares.

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                          • 0blong00
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2021
                            • 197

                            #118
                            Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                            Originally posted by MetsFan16
                            I do like the look and freshness this brings to free agency in the offseason.

                            I’ve been a 30-team control player and that includes the offseason’s free agency aspect. My main gripe with how CPU handled the free agents was signing top players at a position they already have a quality player/prospect. For example, the Giants signing Willy Adames in 2024 but come 2025 they’ll sign Bo Bichette. Both great SSs.
                            So I’ve noticed that during the season a team will not update its team needs list after making a trade and will then go trade for more players at that position. Maybe this could be a problem with free agency also?

                            Either way, hopefully this new system addresses that. I’ve always just played one season(really I restart a bunch of seasons and maybe finish one), but I’m really looking forward to/ hoping to hit the ground running this year, not look back, and get through a few seasons.

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                            • tessl
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 5684

                              #119
                              Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              How about this...

                              Post a video from your MOM game with starters with low stamina only going 3 or 4 innings. Not the end stats, the actual game. Stream it and play it out to show what you're claiming.

                              I'll wait.
                              Gladly but you didn't answer my question. Are you using manage mode with default sliders or are you doctoring sliders?

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                              • Bm7414206
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 261

                                #120
                                Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                I think after tomorrow and watching them play thru it live, that you'll feel comfortable with starting a keeper franchise at the get go.
                                Do u work for SDS? I ask just because u seem to have inside knowledge with some of your responses

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