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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5684

    #61
    Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

    Originally posted by UFCMPunk
    I know there is Create A Stadium, but has relocation been touched at all or a thing? It's been a few games since I played The Show and was curious about relocation if I wanted to move the A's to Vegas to keep it realistic.
    Theoretically when rebrand your team you pick a location and relocate although I've noticed you remain in the original time zone so you don't actually relocate but I suspect Vegas will be an option when you rebrand and build your ballpark.

    That is one of the best things they have done in the game. Originally it was in the game but limited to diamond dynasty. Moving it to franchise was fantastic.

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    • CBoller1331
      It Appears I Blue Myself
      • Dec 2013
      • 3082

      #62
      Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

      Originally posted by The Kid 24
      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One interesting thing from this screenshot, outside of it being a cool immersion addition, the single A teams are actually named. <br><br>Don’t know if that means a more robust minors system but if I remember right in the past it just said “Single A” rather than a team. <a href="https://t.co/hy2O4Gercs">pic.twitter.com/hy2O4Gercs</a></p>— Nutzy (@Nutzypoo_ttv) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nutzypoo_ttv/status/1894468060565696849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2025</a></blockquote> ******** async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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      I *think* this has been in the game for awhile - I want to say the Single-A city names appear in the transaction log, but I could be wrong. Would obviously love for Single-A rosters to be in the game though

      Overall good stuff. I get people pointing out the Vladdy contract seeming low, but the rest of the contracts they showed seemed about right at first glance (Dylan Cease was seeking $38MM per year which seems pretty close to what a higher risk top level arm would get), so I'm hoping Vladdy just had a down year in that Sim or something (they showed his stats twice in the video and they were different each time)
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52766

        #63
        Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

        Single-A team names are already in the game. They are shown in transactions screen.


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        • Cod
          MVP
          • May 2007
          • 2717

          #64
          Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

          Originally posted by DrPhibes
          Vlad Jr signing for $30m is still $10m off the mark, so the contract logic has gone from lagging 10-years behind to lagging 5-years behind.
          According to Spotrac, Vlad's current market value is ~$35M AAV, so the game is closer than people give credit for. If Vlad has a down year, then $30M AAV could be dead-on, but if he has a great year, it could be very low.

          The game will never be able to get contracts perfect because they can't predict future markets, revenue outside of baseball (sponsorships), etc. Could you imagine if the game AI for MLB 23 signed Ohtani to 10-yr/$700M contract in franchise mode? Many would've complained about that being unrealistic as "experts" were predicting ~$550M.

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          • tessl
            All Star
            • Apr 2007
            • 5684

            #65
            Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

            Originally posted by Cod
            According to Spotrac, Vlad's current market value is ~$35M AAV, so the game is closer than people give credit for. If Vlad has a down year, then $30M AAV could be dead-on, but if he has a great year, it could be very low.

            The game will never be able to get contracts perfect because they can't predict future markets, revenue outside of baseball (sponsorships), etc. Could you imagine if the game AI for MLB 23 signed Ohtani to 10-yr/$700M contract in franchise mode? Many would've complained about that being unrealistic as "experts" were predicting ~$550M.
            Impossible to program the deferred contract stuff. I'm glad it isn't in the game.

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            • jcar0725
              "ADAPT OR DIE"
              • Aug 2010
              • 3821

              #66
              Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

              Originally posted by Cod
              According to Spotrac, Vlad's current market value is ~$35M AAV, so the game is closer than people give credit for. If Vlad has a down year, then $30M AAV could be dead-on, but if he has a great year, it could be very low.

              The game will never be able to get contracts perfect because they can't predict future markets, revenue outside of baseball (sponsorships), etc. Could you imagine if the game AI for MLB 23 signed Ohtani to 10-yr/$700M contract in franchise mode? Many would've complained about that being unrealistic as "experts" were predicting ~$550M.
              I'm sure if you sim a year in 25, you'll get various contractors offer amounts. I've done a bunch of test runs in 24 and the contract offers vary. So today's video may have just shown one possibility out of many.
              JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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              • djflock
                Pro
                • Sep 2022
                • 645

                #67
                Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                Originally posted by Cod
                According to Spotrac, Vlad's current market value is ~$35M AAV, so the game is closer than people give credit for. If Vlad has a down year, then $30M AAV could be dead-on, but if he has a great year, it could be very low.

                The game will never be able to get contracts perfect because they can't predict future markets, revenue outside of baseball (sponsorships), etc. Could you imagine if the game AI for MLB 23 signed Ohtani to 10-yr/$700M contract in franchise mode? Many would've complained about that being unrealistic as "experts" were predicting ~$550M.
                You kind of went off the deep end there. I didn't ask for AI, that can't build a sensible lineup, to predict future markets, assess revenues, project recessions, account for the new RSN deals, etc .

                Kyle Tucker and Vladdy are going to be 26 and 28 yr old free agents with 96 and 94 overall ratings depicted. These players demands were a 230 million dollar contract and a 210 million dollar contract. There is a ZERO percent chance either of these players would accept ANYTHING near this. The Astros would never trade Tucker if it was going to cost just 230mil. The Jays offered vladdy 350 mil .. he wants 450 mil, at least (spotrac has him projected to get over 400 mil).

                These contracts are WAY off. They seem closer to deals these players might have accepted when buying their arb years out like 4 years ago.

                They also mention these players as being pacesetters for the market. And they top out at 30 mil a year? This seems like this is going to be the ceiling for players and that is not a good thing. Some of the other contracts looked fine though which means maybe the higher end players are just going to be really underpaid? Which , imo, is just fundementally the same logic as last year in that department.


                Im just really skeptical that this isn't just the same ole operating system with a visual facelift.
                Last edited by djflock; 02-25-2025, 09:32 PM.

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                • KSUowls
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5891

                  #68
                  Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                  Free agent improvements in sports games never really excite me. Not because they aren't welcome additions, it's just such a singular part of the overall franchise experience that I it feels like there should be more since free agency is really only relevant for a relatively miniscule part of your franchise experience.

                  That being said...this one was pretty cool though. Turning contract negotiations into drawn out agreements with player motivations and even star players setting the market are all neat features. On paper it's the best looking free agent system that I've seen in a sports game. Hopefully it plays just as well. I don't know that I love that it seems like you can't just offer a guy early, but this may be one of those compromises needed to gamify it. Hopefully the whole experience plays out well.

                  The storyline graphics have the potential to add a lot of immersion to the experience. Seeing news around the league and top prospect information being fed to you without even having to go look for it is really great. It helps connect you to the game world. Also liked the weather report.

                  I feel like I've been trained to expect very little from this game for nearly a decade at this point, but for once I can say that I'm pleasantly surprised. Hopefully some of the parts that they only briefly mentioned are noticeably improved (trade logic), but even if this free agency system and the infographics are the only real improvements then I would consider that a win from a feature standpoint.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52766

                    #69
                    Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                    Originally posted by djflock
                    You kind of went off the deep end there. I didn't ask for AI, that can't build a sensible lineup, to predict future markets, assess revenues, project recessions, account for the new RSN deals, etc .

                    Kyle Tucker and Vladdy are going to be 26 and 28 yr old free agents with 96 and 94 overall ratings depicted. These players demands were a 230 million dollar contract and a 210 million dollar contract. There is a ZERO percent chance either of these players would accept ANYTHING near this. The Astros would never trade Tucker if it was going to cost just 230mil. The Jays offered vladdy 350 mil .. he wants 450 mil, at least (spotrac has him projected to get over 400 mil).

                    These contracts are WAY off. They seem closer to deals these players might have accepted when buying their arb years out like 4 years ago.

                    They also mention these players as being pacesetters for the market. And they top out at 30 mil a year? This seems like this is going to be the ceiling for players and that is not a good thing. Some of the other contracts looked fine though which means maybe the higher end players are just going to be really underpaid? Which , imo, is just fundementally the same logic as last year in that department.


                    Im just really skeptical that this isn't just the same ole operating system with a visual facelift.

                    I recommend watching the premiere stream on Thursday and not accepting one contract in a 5 minute video as the definitive result


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                    • CBoller1331
                      It Appears I Blue Myself
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 3082

                      #70
                      Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                      Originally posted by djflock
                      You kind of went off the deep end there. I didn't ask for AI, that can't build a sensible lineup, to predict future markets, assess revenues, project recessions, account for the new RSN deals, etc .

                      Kyle Tucker and Vladdy are going to be 26 and 28 yr old free agents with 96 and 94 overall ratings depicted. These players demands were a 230 million dollar contract and a 210 million dollar contract. There is a ZERO percent chance either of these players would accept ANYTHING near this. The Astros would never trade Tucker if it was going to cost just 230mil. The Jays offered vladdy 350 mil .. he wants 450 mil, at least (spotrac has him projected to get over 400 mil).

                      These contracts are WAY off. They seem closer to deals these players might have accepted when buying their arb years out like 4 years ago.

                      They also mention these players as being pacesetters for the market. And they top out at 30 mil a year? This seems like this is going to be the ceiling for players and that is not a good thing. Some of the other contracts looked fine though which means maybe the higher end players are just going to be really underpaid? Which , imo, is just fundementally the same logic as last year in that department.


                      Im just really skeptical that this isn't just the same ole operating system with a visual facelift.
                      Dylan Cease was demanding 38M per year in one screen shot, so I don't think 30 will be a cap by any means.

                      I'm sure there will still be some wonkiness, but I think people are making a little too much out of the Vladdy and Tucker figures that were in the video. Maybe they didn't quite kill it in their walk years, it wouldn't be the first time we've seen someone's market crater. I think it's a little silly to say that these guys wouldn't accept anything near those contracts a year away from free agency - a lot can happen to change the perception of a player in 1 season.

                      Also, I know the Soto and Ohtani contracts have seemed to reset contract demands going forward, but those guys were very unique free agents so I'm a little skeptical that $40M AAV or $400M total value is suddenly attainable for every big name close to free agency. There are 5 players with an AAV over $40M (Ohtani, Soto, Judge and 2 more on short term deals - Bregman and Wheeler), and only 3 $400M contracts (Ohtani, Soto, Trout). If Vladdy hit the open market today he probably would be there, but alot can happen in a season to change that.

                      All that to say, I'm optimistic this will be an improvement on the current Free Agency, how much remains to be seen.
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                      • Cod
                        MVP
                        • May 2007
                        • 2717

                        #71
                        Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                        Originally posted by CBoller1331
                        Also, I know the Soto and Ohtani contracts have seemed to reset contract demands going forward, but those guys were very unique free agents so I'm a little skeptical that $40M AAV or $400M total value is suddenly attainable for every big name close to free agency. There are 5 players with an AAV over $40M (Ohtani, Soto, Judge and 2 more on short term deals - Bregman and Wheeler), and only 3 $400M contracts (Ohtani, Soto, Trout). If Vladdy hit the open market today he probably would be there, but alot can happen in a season to change that.

                        All that to say, I'm optimistic this will be an improvement on the current Free Agency, how much remains to be seen.
                        100% this. To truly understand how "realistic" the game is with these contracts, you have to eliminate the outliers (top and bottom 2%) and judge from there.

                        Also, we can't just take the screenshots at face value. We have no idea what the production during the simulated season was for any of the players mentioned as 2025/26 market setters.

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                        • KGIY94
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 59

                          #72
                          Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                          All I want is better player progression.

                          I want all of the training modules and coaching attributes to actually work. I want attributes that are clearly meant to be trained to actually progress or regress. I want progression that is more dynamic than just 99% of players just earning +4 to their attributes every year regardless of their performance. I want more variation in progression/regression windows. I want more veterans who don't completely crap out once they turn 33.

                          The greedy part of me wants a much friendlier scouting interface, more scoutable prospects so you don't run out after the 2nd round, and for players to gain muscle and weight (like in NHL).

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                          • baseballguy99
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 933

                            #73
                            MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                            Some really positive changes here, I’m actually excited to hear more on Thursday. The league news and storylines was desperately needed to keep franchise fresh and to bring the world to life.

                            The new PA voices didn’t sound great IMO, but I’ll reserve judgement till I play

                            Would be great if they added a few more things, would really love non roster invitees for spring
                            Last edited by baseballguy99; 02-25-2025, 11:32 PM.

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                            • ty5oke
                              87%
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2912

                              #74
                              Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                              I never thought franchise would get any love so this is amazing to me. Excited for the storyline features in game, reminds me of the old TWIB in All Star Baseball.
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                              • Bm7414206
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 261

                                #75
                                Re: MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

                                [QUOTE=Therebelyell626;2051042974]After re-watching the video I have some questions about the “priorities” portion of the free agent process. There are options like “left handed/right handed” bat and “ground ball pitcher”. I wonder if players will now be assigned roles or if these roles like ground ball pitcher will just be based on attributes like H/9[/QUOT


                                I think groundball pitcher will be based off HR/9

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