MLB The Show 25 Deep Dive Franchise Front Office Experience

[canes21]

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Franchise will likely never be their top priority again as it's not the most played mode. Younger gamers have went in a totally different direction than us old dudes. If you're holding out for franchise to be the main mode, you'll be missing out on some great games. These are some great additions IMO.

If the games are great to you and others, that's fine. I am not here to chastise anyone for liking the game. It does many things right. It just doesn't do the things right that I wish it did. I'd love to see it have a franchise mode that is similar in quality to that of the NBA 2k series, but it simply isn't and because of that I know I won't enjoy the game consistently over a long enough period to where I feel like it'd be a worthy purchase.

That's fine. SDS has their priorities and is making the game they want to make. What they want to make and what I want to buy simply don't align and haven't aligned for many years now. That may change one day, it may not. If it does, I'm back as a customer. If it doesn't, so be it.

[eric7064]

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If the games are great to you and others, that's fine. I am not here to chastise anyone for liking the game. It does many things right. It just doesn't do the things right that I wish it did. I'd love to see it have a franchise mode that is similar in quality to that of the NBA 2k series, but it simply isn't and because of that I know I won't enjoy the game consistently over a long enough period to where I feel like it'd be a worthy purchase.

That's fine. SDS has their priorities and is making the game they want to make. What they want to make and what I want to buy simply don't align and haven't aligned for many years now. That may change one day, it may not. If it does, I'm back as a customer. If it doesn't, so be it.

Yeah basketball is my least favorite game to play, but the way they have the MYNBA set up is a love letter to franchise mode fans. The customization and everything that is possible is a dream for me in the Show.

[countryboy]

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If you sim the games.

Again, unequivocally false.

I'm multiple years into my franchise and I don't sim games. I have 5 complete seasons (over 800 games) of playing every pitch of every game that disprove your assumption.

[MiracleMet718]

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If the games are great to you and others, that's fine. I am not here to chastise anyone for liking the game. It does many things right. It just doesn't do the things right that I wish it did. I'd love to see it have a franchise mode that is similar in quality to that of the NBA 2k series, but it simply isn't and because of that I know I won't enjoy the game consistently over a long enough period to where I feel like it'd be a worthy purchase.

That's fine. SDS has their priorities and is making the game they want to make. What they want to make and what I want to buy simply don't align and haven't aligned for many years now. That may change one day, it may not. If it does, I'm back as a customer. If it doesn't, so be it.

While I do give SDS credit for finally fixing the major legacy issues, the only two games that have in depth franchise mode are 2k (miles ahead of everyone else, although still with legacy issues) and surprisingly NHL. CFB was enjoyable but died out pretty fast after it got repetitive and Madden finally improved, but still leaves a lot to be desired. It’s just not a big focus for any of the game developers these days because the market has moved to online fantasy team play like MUT/DD and it’s where they make more money now. Even 2k has kind of left the mode alone these last few years as the injury bug and salary cap issues still exist from 3 years ago.

This isn’t to say you should or shouldn’t buy as you should do whatever you want to do, but more so discussing the landscape of single player sports gaming now vs. 10 years ago. We’re all just a small percentage of the market now and it’s not going back to how it was unfortunately.

[KnightTemplar]

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While I do give SDS credit for finally fixing the major legacy issues.

This isn’t to say you should or shouldn’t buy as you should do whatever you want to do, but more so discussing the landscape of single player sports gaming now vs. 10 years ago. We’re all just a small percentage of the market now and it’s not going back to how it was unfortunately.

I don’t do all the franchise stuff. Play one year, every pitch, then done. That said:

This IS a video game. How many players are there to consider in totality when it comes to drafting/free agents, all the other possibilities? I would think it’s probably a programming nightmare. I don’t think it can ever be real world accurate down to the tiniest detail. Can it?

That said I would think gamers might/should be able to, as , bottom line, it’s a fantasy baseball game, enjoy it for what it is.

Peace.

[canes21]

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While I do give SDS credit for finally fixing the major legacy issues, the only two games that have in depth franchise mode are 2k (miles ahead of everyone else, although still with legacy issues) and surprisingly NHL. CFB was enjoyable but died out pretty fast after it got repetitive and Madden finally improved, but still leaves a lot to be desired. It’s just not a big focus for any of the game developers these days because the market has moved to online fantasy team play like MUT/DD and it’s where they make more money now. Even 2k has kind of left the mode alone these last few years as the injury bug and salary cap issues still exist from 3 years ago.

This isn’t to say you should or shouldn’t buy as you should do whatever you want to do, but more so discussing the landscape of single player sports gaming now vs. 10 years ago. We’re all just a small percentage of the market now and it’s not going back to how it was unfortunately.

And that is why I don't buy these sports games annually anymore. They don't strive to provide the type of experience I personally am looking for. Hopefully that changes one day and franchise mode becomes one a core focus for all sports games again. I don't even care if they find a way to monetize the game more if it means the mode improves exponentially.

I'm not surprised DD is the focus with how it prints revenue. It's understandable. My hope is that eventually they either decide to reinvest some of that money into other modes or they find a way to monetize the other modes in order to get some real changes in place.

Where franchise mode sits right now along with the pace that it improves simply don't do anything to convince me to jump back on as a customer. There's far too many other options out there these days in the gaming world for me to want to spend the money on a game like The Show when I know there's more lacking that I will be disappointed with than there is present I will be satisfied with.

Like I said before, if others like the game, I have zero issues with that. I'm not here to tell others to boycott the game because I personally don't enjoy it as much. If someone is fine with where franchise mode is now or if someone loves DD, that's great. I'm simply neither of those people.

[DrPhibes]

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I would say as it stands right now, MLB has maybe the 4th or 5th best franchise mode.

I'd go
1. NBA 2K
power gap
2. NHL
3. College Football
gigantic power gap
4. MLB
5. Madden

Adding storylines and news tabs helps. Contracts and trade stuff helps and we will see if it is an actual upgrade or if it is just window dressing for same old same old. Franchise should be a sandbox. NBA and NHL understand this.

NBA 2K is the franchise made every other sports game should strive to be. The Show feels like it isn't even half way to being 2K.

[LegendKillerOne]

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I like everything I heard in this. I hope they will deep dive more into the trade logic and how it is improved.



Would like to see larger A ball rosters and editable managers but I guess I need to let that one go


But this looks nice, excited for it

[MiracleMet718]

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I don’t do all the franchise stuff. Play one year, every pitch, then done. That said:

This IS a video game. How many players are there to consider in totality when it comes to drafting/free agents, all the other possibilities? I would think it’s probably a programming nightmare. I don’t think it can ever be real world accurate down to the tiniest detail. Can it?

That said I would think gamers might/should be able to, as , bottom line, it’s a fantasy baseball game, enjoy it for what it is.

Peace.

Exactly, it is a video game. That’s why for me I’m really happy with what they did this year. Only thing I’m really looking for them to fix is the AI manager decisions and sim stats for CPU teams and I’m happy. I’m not here trying to be a real GM, just want a taste of realism mixed in with fun of randomness of the mode. And between the Ohtani/Soto signings and what happened to Luka/AD in the NBA, it’s more proof that fiction is sometimes more real than reality.

I would say as it stands right now, MLB has maybe the 4th or 5th best franchise mode.

I'd go
1. NBA 2K
power gap
2. NHL
3. College Football
gigantic power gap
4. MLB
5. Madden

Adding storylines and news tabs helps. Contracts and trade stuff helps and we will see if it is an actual upgrade or if it is just window dressing for same old same old. Franchise should be a sandbox. NBA and NHL understand this.

NBA 2K is the franchise made every other sports game should strive to be. The Show feels like it isn't even half way to being 2K.

I’d put CFB in the MLB/Madden category. There are very limited options in how you can play out Dynasty mode and the Portal doesn’t really work right for user teams. It has potential, but it’s pretty barebones in terms of options and stat tracking especially.

[bronxbombers21325]

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Exactly, it is a video game. That’s why for me I’m really happy with what they did this year. Only thing I’m really looking for them to fix is the AI manager decisions and sim stats for CPU teams and I’m happy. I’m not here trying to be a real GM, just want a taste of realism mixed in with fun of randomness of the mode. And between the Ohtani/Soto signings and what happened to Luka/AD in the NBA, it’s more proof that fiction is sometimes more real than reality.



I’d put CFB in the MLB/Madden category. There are very limited options in how you can play out Dynasty mode and the Portal doesn’t really work right for user teams. It has potential, but it’s pretty barebones in terms of options and stat tracking especially.

CFB was very flawed IMO. It's a good start but I don't think it would have been looked at as favorably if we hadn't been without a college football game for years and years.

[tessl]

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Again, unequivocally false.

I'm multiple years into my franchise and I don't sim games. I have 5 complete seasons (over 800 games) of playing every pitch of every game that disprove your assumption.

Manage mode with default sliders?

Perhaps my memory is better than others. At one time starting pitchers could throw 130 pitches with stamina a 0 and never suffer a penalty. That changed a few years ago. If this website had a search engine I'd pull up the post from the developer who detailed it. Now what a pitcher's stamina reaches a certain point _ I think 20% or 25% - his attributes decline and the progressively get lower the more his stamina declines.

In the front office video the screen shot of the SP showed stamina at -1 regression. That's no change from what it's always been

We both posted draft videos showing the same exact thing. Mine was from mlbts23. Yours was mlbts24. Pittsburgh drafted a pitcher in the first round with 57 stamina in your video. I identified 5 first round SP picks in your video with stamina and attributes that won't enable them to be legit starting pitchers. What you didn't show was scouted stamina progression which shows their stamina will significantly increase over time. That's why the CPU drafted them in the first round but it's false. The developers botched that aspect of the game. That's just the tip of the iceberg with progression and the draft. With only 6 or 7 rounds in the draft and no separate international signings the player pool isn't large enough given the current player quality/progression/regression.

I've played 474 games in mlbts23 manage mode. CPU vs CPU. Default sliders.

I'll reserve judgement until I see the full franchise video but I'm finished throwing away my franchise only to see the same problems go unresolved while they spend their time on frequently poorly executed new aspects.

Please when you get the new game post another draft video.

[countryboy]

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Manage mode with default sliders?

Perhaps my memory is better than others. At one time starting pitchers could throw 130 pitches with stamina a 0 and never suffer a penalty. That changed a few years ago. If this website had a search engine I'd pull up the post from the developer who detailed it. Now what a pitcher's stamina reaches a certain point _ I think 20% or 25% - his attributes decline and the progressively get lower the more his stamina declines.

In the front office video the screen shot of the SP showed stamina at -1 regression. That's no change from what it's always been

We both posted draft videos showing the same exact thing. Mine was from mlbts23. Yours was mlbts24. Pittsburgh drafted a pitcher in the first round with 57 stamina in your video. I identified 5 first round SP picks in your video with stamina and attributes that won't enable them to be legit starting pitchers. What you didn't show was scouted stamina progression which shows their stamina will significantly increase over time. That's why the CPU drafted them in the first round but it's false. The developers botched that aspect of the game. That's just the tip of the iceberg with progression and the draft. With only 6 or 7 rounds in the draft and no separate international signings the player pool isn't large enough given the current player quality/progression/regression.

I've played 474 games in mlbts23 manage mode. CPU vs CPU. Default sliders.

I'll reserve judgement until I see the full franchise video but I'm finished throwing away my franchise only to see the same problems go unresolved while they spend their time on frequently poorly executed new aspects.

Please when you get the new game post another draft video.

How about this...

Post a video from your MOM game with starters with low stamina only going 3 or 4 innings. Not the end stats, the actual game. Stream it and play it out to show what you're claiming.

I'll wait.

[Therebelyell626]

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I would say as it stands right now, MLB has maybe the 4th or 5th best franchise mode.

I'd go
1. NBA 2K
power gap
2. NHL
3. College Football
gigantic power gap
4. MLB
5. Madden

Adding storylines and news tabs helps. Contracts and trade stuff helps and we will see if it is an actual upgrade or if it is just window dressing for same old same old. Franchise should be a sandbox. NBA and NHL understand this.

NBA 2K is the franchise made every other sports game should strive to be. The Show feels like it isn't even half way to being 2K.

If you think the show is still beating Madden then you are either A) Countryboy or B) Haven’t played Madden in a few years. At least Madden is adding multiple things every year after being stagnant for years. The show didn’t add anything to franchise for almost 7 years, and have only really given us one thing a year for the last two years. The shows franchise is stale. Outside of your own team it feels like the league is dead. However… I am excited about some of the presentation additions this year as I feel they will going a long way to rectifying that last issue. Gameplay wise, yes the show is better than Madden, but there is no way you can say more effort is being put in to franchise at SDS then what has been going on over at EA the last couple of years

[Armor and Sword]

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It seems like you really should only be controlling one team to enjoy these new features as intended.

That being said,I typically am used to 30 team control only to make up for bullpen logic and lineups etc.So I hope some of these cpu management issues are at least improved.

I am a well known 30 team control guy however I only step in because of what you are talking about.

My hope is with this total revamp I see the CPU controlled teams participate like they should logically in the off-season.

I am very much looking forward to tomorrow's stream. I think it looks on the surface outstanding and a huge improvement.

I will still employ 30 team control for lineups and rotations management but I look forward to not having to deal with anything else with this new deeper offseason.

I am so pumped.

[Therebelyell626]

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CFB was very flawed IMO. It's a good start but I don't think it would have been looked at as favorably if we hadn't been without a college football game for years and years.

I disagree. While YES, CFB dynasty was “flawed” it was an absolute blast to play. Just ask anyone who played the game. The shows franchise is just not fun to play anymore. It’s stale and more of the same ol same ol. HOWEVER, I do like the additions this year and I am very intrigued. I am looking forward to seeing more Thursday