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  • brunnoce
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 4133

    #616
    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

    Originally posted by davewins
    Great post.

    It doesn't make a difference what they say. If they said it was reversed and you liked playing with it OFF would you play with it ON just because they said so?? I know myself that I wouldn't. Just play with whatever option you are comfortable with and most importantly enjoy the game.
    yeh dave, with your findings its now really a WIN WIN situation for all of us...
    We have people that didnt have a problem with it before enjoing the option default OFF as aways.
    But now we also have people that were having problems before enjoying the game with the option turned ON.

    Lets all enjoy then
    Last edited by brunnoce; 03-24-2009, 07:34 AM.
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    • rudyjuly2
      Cade Cunningham
      • Aug 2002
      • 14816

      #617
      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

      I played one game with it ON and I didn't see any difference lol. I fell behind and stayed behind. Obviously one game doesn't say anything but I need to work on my hitting for a bit. I suck and if I can't score there is no point in seeing anything.

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      • koebsual
        Rookie
        • May 2006
        • 317

        #618
        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

        Originally posted by brunnoce
        yeh...they dont need to say anything, as long as everyone can enjoy they game (be it with ON or OFF) theyll be happy i imagine.

        Also, what can they say really?
        Evan if someone from them comes abroad and say: hey guys the option is not reversed or broken... it wont change the FACT that i(and many others) am having more realisict games and box scorers with the option ON.. So theres really no need for them to say anything, at least in my point of view.
        I get that your having great games with it on! But my question is your not playing on allstar are you? I play on all star, is anyone having same results as you with allstar? Or has that been proven wrong, that all star is the only level that it works as it should? I want to try this, even though I have not had too many crazy comebacks. I do get way too many nail bitters though for my taste. I would like to get blown out or blow them out once in a while!

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        • chuckm1961
          MVP
          • Mar 2005
          • 1429

          #619
          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

          My point in posting a dissenting view in a thread like this is two-fold:

          1) To point out logical inconsistencies. To say you were 16-12 before making a Game Options change and then 4-5 after making the change and then claim that the Game Options change is the reason for those records... is not logical. Sorry, it is not.

          2) To alert newer players who are reading the forums: "Warning, not everyone agrees this is the best way to play."

          It is fine to say "to each his own." Just please don't come and tell me that it is "more realistic" (a completely subjective phrase, totally in the eyes of the beholder) to play with an option On or Off. Or that it is a "fact" that the game plays better with an option On or Off. Then you are no longer saying "to each his own." You are saying you are right and I am wrong... and then you will get responses.
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          • brunnoce
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 4133

            #620
            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

            Originally posted by koebsual
            I get that your having great games with it on! But my question is your not playing on allstar are you? I play on all star, is anyone having same results as you with allstar? Or has that been proven wrong, that all star is the only level that it works as it should? I want to try this, even though I have not had too many crazy comebacks. I do get way too many nail bitters though for my taste. I would like to get blown out or blow them out once in a while!

            yeh man, idont play on allstar, im on legend...sorry, cant help u on that one..but im sure others will step up and help u...
            my best advice though is: play the game and take your own conclusions..dont let others influency u...
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            • brunnoce
              MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 4133

              #621
              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

              Originally posted by chuckm1961
              My point in posting a dissenting view in a thread like this is two-fold:

              1) To point out logical inconsistencies. To say you were 16-12 before making a Game Options change and then 4-5 after making the change and then claim that the Game Options change is the reason for those records... is not logical. Sorry, it is not.

              2) To alert newer players who are reading the forums: "Warning, not everyone agrees this is the best way to play."

              It is fine to say "to each his own." Just please don't come and tell me that it is "more realistic" (a completely subjective phrase, totally in the eyes of the beholder) to play with an option On or Off. Or that it is a "fact" that the game plays better with an option On or Off. Then you are no longer saying "to each his own." You are saying you are right and I am wrong... and then you will get responses.
              i disagree with u...
              as long as theres a big "IMO" or "from what I could see" i see no problems in people saying one way or another is more realistic FOR THEM.

              about your number 1... i also disagree...simply because in my case its definalty not because of the W/L record i made the change..but about the scorers...again there was only nailbiters on my season, now i see blow outs and nailbiters...thats my experience btw, not saying ull have the same.

              about number 2... i have yet to see anyone in here saying "this is the right way to play" what i hear is people sayin that for them this is playing a better game of baseball all around..that dont mean this is the definite answer for everybody or neither for the majority, but it can definatly be an answer for most people that were having an issue with having only close games on their ends, so why not give it a shot? it could help them like it helped me and so many others in here....


              cheers!

              also, btw, it is a FACT TO ME that the game plays better with the option ON
              i kid man..dont take it personal
              Last edited by brunnoce; 03-24-2009, 08:05 AM.
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              • brunnoce
                MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 4133

                #622
                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                i was thinking about the title of the thread, and id suggest changing it to something like "For those having an issue with AI Comeback, try this"

                i think it would suit more the thread and also eliminate people that are not having a problem with combacks coming in here and gettting confused for no need about a game that was already playing well for them...

                what do u think chuckm1961 and others?
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                • BIG CAROLINA
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1762

                  #623
                  Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                  Originally posted by brunnoce
                  i was thinking about the title of the thread, and id suggest changing it to something like "For those having an issue with AI Comeback, try this"

                  i think it would suit more the thread and also eliminate people that are not having a problem with combacks coming in here and gettting confused for no need about a game that was already playing well for them...

                  what do u think chuckm1961 and others?
                  After reading this thread for the past few days, you may be correct. If this "FIX" is working for you (Anyone) and making the game better then good for you, enjoy,however if you are one of the ones who think the game is perfect(The way it is) and never see an issue, then keep on keeping on.
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                  • canyank73
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 53

                    #624
                    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                    For me personally, this game plays better with it ON. Now, whether that is all in my head remains to be seen, but I know since turning the option ON, I've had 5 of the best games since purchasing. Leads have been taking by both the CPU and ME and have lasted innings. With it OFF, I experienced " you get some hits, I get some hits or I get some hits, you get some hits" which was a regular
                    occurrence and was beginning to become frustrating.

                    5 games you say may not be a lot and I agree, but in 5 of those games, I never once felted like the computer was " getting the better of me ". If I pitched well, I was rewarded and when I didn't, I got burned.

                    To each his own in the debate on whether it should be On or OFF, but I'm glad it is ON for me, because it had made my games simply nail-biting affairs and for me a very realistic representation of the game.

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                    • HustlinOwl
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 9713

                      #625
                      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                      Originally posted by koebsual
                      I get that your having great games with it on! But my question is your not playing on allstar are you? I play on all star, is anyone having same results as you with allstar? Or has that been proven wrong, that all star is the only level that it works as it should? I want to try this, even though I have not had too many crazy comebacks. I do get way too many nail bitters though for my taste. I would like to get blown out or blow them out once in a while!
                      I play on all-star and first tested this theory back on the 13th and saw with it "On" the game was playing as it should. My very first game was the highest offensive output I had, but the CPU scored and hit just as good as I did.

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                      • Motown
                        OS Brew Connoisseur
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 9169

                        #626
                        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                        Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                        I play on all-star and first tested this theory back on the 13th and saw with it "On" the game was playing as it should. My very first game was the highest offensive output I had, but the CPU scored and hit just as good as I did.
                        Same here man, 'cept on Vet. I spanked the Cards w/ the Reds 11-3, then Jetted out to 'cisco & got my azz handed to me w/ Lincecum & co...mo fo held me to 3 hits. lost 7-3. The one hit i got was a 2 R dinger by Votto.

                        luv this game man

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                        • slickdtc
                          Grayscale
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 17125

                          #627
                          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                          The way I see it, this option is just like any slider.

                          Person X can't get hits, so he cranks up the contact. Person Y has a lower contact slider, but has similar results as Person X.

                          So they're playing on different settings, but getting the same results. It's just how they play or the team they play with.

                          So like many have said many times in this thread, it's all personal preference. Dave didn't say you HAVE to play with comeback on to make the game realistic... he's said that that's what works for him and that people who are having problems with comeback should try the same. We've had enough firsthand experiences to say that this is a viable option for those struggling.

                          This thread has run over 60+ pages. Serious discussion, too (some hang ups, but that's the nature of the beast). My hat is off to Dave for this discovery and I'm glad that he's giving people another option before they give up on this game because we all know this one is an instant classic.
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                          • davewins
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1913

                            #628
                            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                            Originally posted by slickdtc
                            The way I see it, this option is just like any slider.

                            Person X can't get hits, so he cranks up the contact. Person Y has a lower contact slider, but has similar results as Person X.

                            So they're playing on different settings, but getting the same results. It's just how they play or the team they play with.

                            So like many have said many times in this thread, it's all personal preference. Dave didn't say you HAVE to play with comeback on to make the game realistic... he's said that that's what works for him and that people who are having problems with comeback should try the same. We've had enough firsthand experiences to say that this is a viable option for those struggling.

                            This thread has run over 60+ pages. Serious discussion, too (some hang ups, but that's the nature of the beast). My hat is off to Dave for this discovery and I'm glad that he's giving people another option before they give up on this game because we all know this one is an instant classic.
                            Great post man, I never even thought of it that way.

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                            • Woodweaver
                              Developer
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 1145

                              #629
                              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                              Originally posted by gambler1180
                              Again has SCEA said anything about this yet?
                              Originally posted by davewins
                              SCEA is rightfully drinking Piña Coladas somewhere right now
                              Actually, last night 3/23 @7pm in another thread (I can't remember which...search Russell's posts) RussellSCEA reiterated that the options are NOT reversed, they are OFF by default, and that they only provide a handicap on batting attributes.

                              The power of suggestion is a powerful thing, but if you have fun with it ON, who can argue with that...
                              "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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                              • chuckm1961
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 1429

                                #630
                                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                                Originally posted by Woodweaver
                                The power of suggestion is a powerful thing.
                                Yep.
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