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  • whosgotcha
    R**k**
    • Dec 2002
    • 631

    #796
    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

    Got my first blowout! Mets blew out the Brewers 9 to 0!. CPU comeback was off. Tim Redding (player of the game) pitched 7 shutout innings giving up 3 hits with 6 strikeouts. Mets 15 hits. Reyes 2 run homerun two stolen bases.
    Last edited by whosgotcha; 04-01-2009, 05:17 PM.

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    • steelcurtain311
      Banned
      • Feb 2009
      • 2087

      #797
      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

      I have been able to on numerous occasions halt a super AI explosion with this setting. I will have it off and play the game normally until the AI gets a crazy rally that cant be stopped. The one where my second basemen drops a key DP turn or the ball goes through the legs of my SS.
      That right there is the problem. I can handle the AI getting some hits and coming back. The bull**** glitch part of it are the "errors". They aren't even errors though, since they register as hits.

      So many of the times the AI has come back against me, they'll get a few runs, and then I'll get one to ground into what should be a double play ball to get out of it, only my SS or whoever will just let the ball go through them or right past them, and then there's more runs, and that extends their comeback by like 2-4 more runs. This is what needs to be fixed. I've no idea why the devs claim there isn't a glitch here.

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      • sooner1
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 1097

        #798
        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

        Originally posted by whosgotcha
        Got my first blowout! Mets blew out the Brewers 9 to 0!. CPU comeback was off. Tim Redding (player of the game) pitched 7 shutout innings giving up 3 hits with 6 strikeouts. Mets 15 hits. Reyes 2 run homerun two stolen bases.
        What level you playing on?

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        • oldskoolmaddenfanz27
          Rookie
          • Jan 2009
          • 382

          #799
          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

          this thread is impossibly long

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          • VanillaGorilla
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 899

            #800
            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

            While we are discussing broken options, the Variable Strike Zone "Off", in which all pitches are supposed to be called "perfectly", is broken. I've thrown pitches that are 100% inside the strike zone, and they have been called balls. "Perfectly" my ***.

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            • SoxFan01605
              All Star
              • Jan 2008
              • 7982

              #801
              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

              Originally posted by VanillaGorilla
              While we are discussing broken options, the Variable Strike Zone "Off", in which all pitches are supposed to be called "perfectly", is broken. I've thrown pitches that are 100% inside the strike zone, and they have been called balls. "Perfectly" my ***.
              Please don't take offense, as this is a genuine question:

              Do you like ANYTHING about the game? I'm asking because you seem awefully peeved about it and seem borderline hostile to the devs and anyone else who offers alternative views on things. I mean, if a game bugged me this much, I certainly wouldn't keep on with it...lol.

              Just curious.

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              • spyder23
                Rookie
                • Apr 2003
                • 169

                #802
                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                I had the mother of all meltdowns tonight.

                Up 9-2 in the top of the 7th. I'm Texas vs Kansas City.

                McCarthy is CRUISING. This game's in the bag.
                WRONG!

                7 STRAIGHT cpu hits to lead off the 7th inning. Two homers and two BS plays in the field later... It's 9-9 before I even register an OUT!

                I regrab the lead 11-9 in the 8th inning.

                Flash forward...top 9, Frank Fransuckso is in...two quick outs...followed by two SCREAMERS puts men on 2nd and 3rd.

                Mound visit.

                i walk Miguel freaking Olivo. Callaspo ropes a double into the corner on a full count. Tied 11-11. Dejesus is next, base hit, his SIXTH of the game. Down 12-11.

                I score one to tie it in the bottom of the 9th, and then I finally won it in the 12th with a Salty base hit.

                But come on. Texas is bad, but I was so beyond mad I didn't even enjoy this win. It's so obvious at times what is going to happen. This was with CPU Comeback ON, so I honestly have no idea if it makes a difference anymore.

                Just once I'd like to win 9-2. Just once. I don't even mind that they come back, but it was relentless. It happens way too often.

                That said...I still love this game!

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                • VanillaGorilla
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 899

                  #803
                  Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                  Originally posted by SoxFan01605
                  Please don't take offense, as this is a genuine question:

                  Do you like ANYTHING about the game? I'm asking because you seem awefully peeved about it and seem borderline hostile to the devs and anyone else who offers alternative views on things. I mean, if a game bugged me this much, I certainly wouldn't keep on with it...lol.

                  Just curious.
                  Yes. I love the game. That's the problem. There's so many things to like about the game, but the comeback AI is such a game killer, it's destroying all of my enjoyment in this game. And I don't appreciate the developers attitude about it at all, with all that "red shirt" nonsense. It's patronizing, and it cost them a customer come next year.

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                  • whosgotcha
                    R**k**
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 631

                    #804
                    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                    Originally posted by sooner1
                    What level you playing on?
                    Rookie LOL

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                    • pbz06
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1504

                      #805
                      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                      Originally posted by spyder23
                      I had the mother of all meltdowns tonight.

                      Up 9-2 in the top of the 7th. I'm Texas vs Kansas City.

                      McCarthy is CRUISING. This game's in the bag.
                      WRONG!

                      7 STRAIGHT cpu hits to lead off the 7th inning. Two homers and two BS plays in the field later... It's 9-9 before I even register an OUT!

                      I regrab the lead 11-9 in the 8th inning.

                      Flash forward...top 9, Frank Fransuckso is in...two quick outs...followed by two SCREAMERS puts men on 2nd and 3rd.

                      Mound visit.

                      i walk Miguel freaking Olivo. Callaspo ropes a double into the corner on a full count. Tied 11-11. Dejesus is next, base hit, his SIXTH of the game. Down 12-11.

                      I score one to tie it in the bottom of the 9th, and then I finally won it in the 12th with a Salty base hit.

                      But come on. Texas is bad, but I was so beyond mad I didn't even enjoy this win. It's so obvious at times what is going to happen. This was with CPU Comeback ON, so I honestly have no idea if it makes a difference anymore.

                      Just once I'd like to win 9-2. Just once. I don't even mind that they come back, but it was relentless. It happens way too often.

                      That said...I still love this game!
                      lol, you answered your own question

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                      • pbz06
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1504

                        #806
                        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                        Originally posted by VanillaGorilla
                        Yes. I love the game. That's the problem. There's so many things to like about the game, but the comeback AI is such a game killer, it's destroying all of my enjoyment in this game. And I don't appreciate the developers attitude about it at all, with all that "red shirt" nonsense. It's patronizing, and it cost them a customer come next year.
                        Their attitude?

                        lol

                        They answer all our questions, post regularly while helping the community despite certain people screaming that the sky is falling.

                        From reading your posts and the developers' and yours, it's clear who has the attitude

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                        • SoxFan01605
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 7982

                          #807
                          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                          Originally posted by VanillaGorilla
                          Yes. I love the game. That's the problem. There's so many things to like about the game, but the comeback AI is such a game killer, it's destroying all of my enjoyment in this game. And I don't appreciate the developers attitude about it at all, with all that "red shirt" nonsense. It's patronizing, and it cost them a customer come next year.
                          Fair enough. I think it could be a matter of perspective though. I've had no issue with "comeback AI" at all, while you apparently have. Isn't it fair to say what Brian said was likely taken in the context of our individual experiences with the game in this regard?

                          When I read Brian's comment, it seemed to me he just confirmed it wasn't a programming issue and simply mused at the effects of perception with regards to those seeing it. It was an analogy said in generally good humor...I didn't think he was trying to be patronizing or condescending with it. You read it as a patronizing remark meant to dismiss your experience. I would say that's perspective driven.

                          The only thing he dismissed, based on his direct knowledge, is the programming being a factor. He even encouraged and furthered the discussion as to why it may be seen (in the other "comeback to ON" thread) aside from the programming itself.

                          It's simply a diverging viewpoint as to why this is occuring with such inconsistency (meaning inconsistency with various people seeing it vs not seeing it. Not with those who actually are seeing it). It's rooted in more knowledge than most of us could offer (on either side of the argument) since he's the one who actually programmed the thing.

                          In any case, it's a shame to let something like that pile onto your frustration and ruin future enjoyment of the series, IMO. To each his own, of course.

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                          • kGinGreen
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 515

                            #808
                            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                            I just got this game so my opinion might not be based on that many games, but i havent seen a hint of comeback code either. I'm 3-0 so far and no comebacks.... All games were realistic and yeah the cpu would try to make a rally and stuff but maybe its because i was smart enough to shut their *** down? that's one thing i really like about this game so far. Maybe i'm imagining things but the AI seems humanlike and you can feel them breaking down or getting hot and you have to adjust. Sometimes you think you have the cpu down and out and you get lazy and they will bomb a homerun off you. I like that though. I like how if you come out erratic to start the game the cpu will jump on you sometimes. Stuff like that.
                            Last edited by kGinGreen; 04-01-2009, 10:38 PM.

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                            • viking12344
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 442

                              #809
                              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                              Quick question.

                              For those folks who say there is a comeback ai...do you let the catcher call the game?
                              I ask this because I do and I notice that if I score, the cpu sure as heck will come right back and blast me the next inning no matter who is pitching or how tired they are. Seen it on rook, vet and as now. Yeah it may be me but its uncanny how it happens and I always let the catcher call the game.

                              Its funny how it happens also, its like one pitch and bam a hit, then another and another and nothing will stop it. It also seems pitcher confidence is not a factor here as it starts usually when he has a big fat yellow line and ends, of course, with none. I mean the only constant is me throwing the ball where the catcher wants it.

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                              • JAKEHB20
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 335

                                #810
                                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                                this might be a horrible question. do i have to turn this on at the start of every game?
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