Someone Please Save This Game For Me

[GSW]

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My problem with playing on veteran with no sliders is I can pretty much shut down the computer, which is no fun....I get more of a challenge when they are set to All-Star.

i cant shut the computer down i havent reached that point yet, but again im playing fantasy franchise...i can hold them down with smoltz and harden, kershaw gets killed though... and my bullpen is awful except my closer and setup men so i really have to push my starters 6,7+ innings

Im thinking of making that jump to all star soon, but im still nto touching sliders... i really dont get why alot of people are obsessed with touching sliders out the box then complainging things are broken or not working, doesnt make much sense to me..

[DrUrsus]

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i cant shut the computer down i havent reached that point yet, but again im playing fantasy franchise...i can hold them down with smoltz and harden, kershaw gets killed though... and my bullpen is awful except my closer and setup men so i really have to push my starters 6,7+ innings

Im thinking of making that jump to all star soon, but im still nto touching sliders... i really dont get why alot of people are obsessed with touching sliders out the box then complainging things are broken or not working, doesnt make much sense to me..

I totally agree there. I used to do that, but learned that you need to start at default yourself and then tweak if necessary. This year I am very happy with default All Star so far. I could play veteran for my hitting, but then I'm too good of a pitcher in veteran most times.

[KidFromNY]

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NEVER let a game's difficulty ruin it for you, especially when you can lower the difficulty. I don't pitch on All-Star, I play on Rookie, but I'd recommend that you throw a first pitch strike and then throw everything out of the zone. Some pitches close to the zone, others not so much. You'll walk some guys, sure, but it helps.

[dorismary]

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Hi Brian,
any chance you can explain what magical gameplay formula was added from 08 to 09 wow what a leap ?
Most wanted a very realistic game and its seems some got more than they could swallow of it.
You guys seem really please with the finished product .
Thanks again for keeping it real .
Lose , Win or late inning comeback losses I cant stop trying/playing to figure out this game .

[swaldo]

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For what it's worth here is an update of my pitchers earned run average (rounded) in the following situations after 80+ innings of data (All star default everything).....

Pitching with a lead: 7
Pitching while tied: 5
Pitching while trailing: 3

When leading if I miss my release point by a mile it's bye, bye ball. If I miss my release point while trailing it's fouled off or an out. That's the general feel of the game I'm having so far. Sample size is still low but I've played many other games not included in this test and experienced the same thing. I just wanted to find a way to bring some non-subjective input to the table.

I also feel the game plays great when tied so it really wouldn't make sense to put in comeback code or ratings boosts.

[sirstikealot]

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If theres no comeback logic hardwired into this game then why is there an option for it? also, can you (Brian) explain how non power hitters are hitting home runs off pitches that are low and away, sometimes even in the dirt. This only happens when the cpu is trailing. What about all the weird errors that just seem to happen when the cpu is making its comeback. All this happens way too much for it not be programmed into the game. I'm just looking for some honest answers. I still love this game and will continue to play it until my season is over.

[Zinger]

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All this talk of comeback code etc reminds me of my experience playing backgammon with the Snowie programme. Backgammon is a game where it has been possible to program the computer to play as strongly (or more so) than the world champion. It's a great learning tool playing against the computer at its highest level, but it can also be very frustrating. At times the computer seems to have such a run of lucky throws that I become convinced that it is cheating. I know this can't be so because there is the option for the user to make all the dice throws in the game himself (and the result is still that the computer wins most of the time) - it just feels like the computer is cheating sometimes because it plays such a strong game. I think that by making the game harder this year, in response to complaints that it was too easy before, the SCEA programmers have guaranteed themselves some unfair criticism. Most of it has come from people playing at legend difficulty. As others have said, the solution for users is really quite simple: swallow your pride and play at a level which suits your abilities. With five levels in the game and much better sliders this year, anyone can, with experimentation, find a way to play this great game in a way that is enjoyable and as challenging as they want it to be. Just don't whine if you make it too challenging for yourself.

[DrUrsus]

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For what it's worth here is an update of my pitchers earned run average (rounded) in the following situations after 80+ innings of data (All star default everything).....

Pitching with a lead: 7
Pitching while tied: 5
Pitching while trailing: 3

When leading if I miss my release point by a mile it's bye, bye ball. If I miss my release point while trailing it's fouled off or an out. That's the general feel of the game I'm having so far. Sample size is still low but I've played many other games not included in this test and experienced the same thing. I just wanted to find a way to bring some non-subjective input to the table.

I also feel the game plays great when tied so it really wouldn't make sense to put in comeback code or ratings boosts.

It's actually still subjective because all data is from you only. To make it more objective, you need a larger sample size. But, I get your point.

[DrUrsus]

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All this talk of comeback code etc reminds me of my experience playing backgammon with the Snowie programme. Backgammon is a game where it has been possible to program the computer to play as strongly (or more so) than the world champion. It's a great learning tool playing against the computer at its highest level, but it can also be very frustrating. At times the computer seems to have such a run of lucky throws that I become convinced that it is cheating. I know this can't be so because there is the option for the user to make all the dice throws in the game himself (and the result is still that the computer wins most of the time) - it just feels like the computer is cheating sometimes because it plays such a strong game. I think that by making the game harder this year, in response to complaints that it was too easy before, the SCEA programmers have guaranteed themselves some unfair criticism. Most of it has come from people playing at legend difficulty. As others have said, the solution for users is really quite simple: swallow your pride and play at a level which suits your abilities. With five levels in the game and much better sliders this year, anyone can, with experimentation, find a way to play this great game in a way that is enjoyable and as challenging as they want it to be. Just don't whine if you make it too challenging for yourself.

Great post.

[dorismary]

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Great post.

Yes thank you ,
Heres a classic Im pitching Lowe Atl vs SF Timmay in bad street .
No hitter in the 6th and Renteria hits a normal ball and it skips up and hits Chipper in the shoulder and Edgar gets a 2 bagger .
The hit didnt hit the skirt ect grass to shoulder so cool realistic but how did this happen as it wasnt me ? is there a cpu in this game that computes that to happen like a hollywood script or was it just a probable thing like odds ? Not asking anything but how this is figured in SCEA ? Thank you .
Is it like a 1000 things have to align and that is the end result ? Programming wise that is .
I have nothing but praise but I gots to know what makes the magic ?

[dorismary]

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Ok heres what disappointing after Lowe lost his no hitter his accuracy which was pretty good went to crap.
Pitches I aimed in the dirt now went over the plate .
Oh I could hear it now well his was shook up ,upset he lost his no hitter.
Thats fine But he was only on his 62 pitch and I was trying throw a foot off the corner to have cpu swing or give um a walk and the freaking ball goes no where where I aim it and thats what is wrong with this game !
Well after the double , Travis I , somehow made a ball wide and outside roll to my 2bman on the lunged swing , edgar on 3b , 1 out , Timmay up so I brought infield in for a bunt , I fell behind 2-0 cause of no location , well I saw Timmay wouldnt bunt so I dropped my D back to mid field and got him on a 3-2 monster lunge pop up , oh the drama , great stuff 2 outs .
So Burris who K once and hit zip 0 contact all day .
Is ready to pounce so I pitch around and get um 2-2 almost trying to walk him cause of uber swings .
So I throw a sinker wide and in the dirt and blam right in the strike zone for a double .
Winn next 0-3 2 k , same old thing and also gets a hit but heres the drama . Frency just misses throwing out the runner on a bang bang play at homeplate , SF up 2-1 turbo now ends you can even FEEL IT slow grounder out of the innings mission accomplished cpu.
But heres whats really unrealistic even Mitch Williams or any minor league player could intentional pitch around any batter or at worse throw a wild pitch but to throw wide and go back into the strikezone is almost impossible
Its like I am not even playing sometimes what do you think.
Im not stupid I know how the cpu swings at everything when ahead and how the pick and choose when behind very well programmed.
Love it but why should I even play if I dont even have a chance or 0 control of what comes across as a predetirmined situation .

SCEA we arent arguing these things dont happen in the MLB but were are just questioning how it happens in this game .

Guys nothing else bothers me accept for these pitching issues that are at times very unrealistic
For such wonderful game .

[sirstikealot]

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Ok heres what disappointing after Lowe lost his no hitter his accuracy which was pretty good went to crap.
Pitches I aimed in the dirt now went over the plate .
Oh I could hear it now well his was shook up ,upset he lost his no hitter.
Thats fine But he was only on his 62 pitch and I was trying throw a foot off the corner to have cpu swing or give um a walk and the freaking ball goes no where where I aim it and thats what is wrong with this game !
Well after the double , Travis I , somehow made a ball wide and outside roll to my 2bman on the lunged swing , edgar on 3b , 1 out , Timmay up so I brought infield in for a bunt , I fell behind 2-0 cause of no location , well I saw Timmay wouldnt bunt so I dropped my D back to mid field and got him on a 3-2 monster lunge pop up , oh the drama , great stuff 2 outs .
So Burris who K once and hit zip 0 contact all day .
Is ready to pounce so I pitch around and get um 2-2 almost trying to walk him cause of uber swings .
So I throw a sinker wide and in the dirt and blam right in the strike zone for a double .
Winn next 0-3 2 k , same old thing and also gets a hit but heres the drama . Frency just misses throwing out the runner on a bang bang play at homeplate , SF up 2-1 turbo now ends you can even FEEL IT slow grounder out of the innings mission accomplished cpu.
But heres whats really unrealistic even Mitch Williams or any minor league player could intentional pitch around any batter or at worse throw a wild pitch but to throw wide and go back into the strikezone is almost impossible
Its like I am not even playing sometimes what do you think.
Im not stupid I know how the cpu swings at everything when ahead and how the pick and choose when behind very well programmed.
Love it but why should I even play if I dont even have a chance or 0 control of what comes across as a predetirmined situation .

SCEA we arent arguing these things dont happen in the MLB but were are just questioning how it happens in this game .

Guys nothing else bothers me accept for these pitching issues that are at times very unrealistic
For such wonderful game .

Good point about the pitchers. Any pitcher especially the ones who pitch in the majors can pitch around anybody they want. Somehow though in the Show 09 they can't when the cpu is behind. Low and away fatballs somehow magically go right down the middle like its predetermined. I wish SCEA would just admit they screwed up.

[dorismary]

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Good point about the pitchers. Any pitcher especially the ones who pitch in the majors can pitch around anybody they want. Somehow though in the Show 09 they can't when the cpu is behind. Low and away fatballs somehow magically go right down the middle like its predetermined. I wish SCEA would just admit they screwed up.

Thats what I dont think some people understand we love the game but something with this is wrong and should be address .
I mean why should I even finish a game I have no chance of winning or worse one I should have lost but won . I want results detirmined by my gameplay Only ...................................

[PsychoBulk]

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I want results detirmined by my gameplay Only ...................................

If that was the case you could throw no hitters with Jason Giambi if you could lock the pitching meter down perfect every time.

Attributes has to play a part to keep realism mate :wink:

[dorismary]

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If that was the case you could throw no hitters with Jason Giambi if you could lock the pitching meter down perfect every time.

Attributes has to play a part to keep realism mate :wink:

Your correct Bulk , but not on pitches that were down and out that end up in the strike zone at the worst possible oppourtune times.
We both know this