2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Scott]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Spring Training move for Texas, what could I get for Torrealba?

[rjackson]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

if he keeps it up, 2 solid B's

No clue what he'll do in mine jknott--haven't started yet. Has he ever played 2B before? Just wondering because it is listed as a secondary but I don't recall him being at the keystone--though it is a better fit with these ratings. Good hands and accurate thrower, will make the routine plays but nothing extraordinary. Not enough range for SS.

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Spring Training move for Texas, what could I get for Torrealba?

a bag of popsicles lol......nothing more then a low-C

[rjackson]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Spring Training move for Texas, what could I get for Torrealba?

He was average-decent hitting wise in 2011, good for a catcher...but his defense took a dive. He was projected for back-up duties so I'd say a fringe prospect player with projectability to a platoon type player or mid C.

[jknott10]

No clue what he'll do in mine jknott--haven't started yet. Has he ever played 2B before? Just wondering because it is listed as a secondary but I don't recall him being at the keystone--though it is a better fit with these ratings. Good hands and accurate thrower, will make the routine plays but nothing extraordinary. Not enough range for SS.

Not sure if he has to be honest with you. Out side of The Show I don't really follow the Astro,s all that much

[nascarfreak24ny]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

lookin to get king felix in a trade. i was able to get him for CC jurickson profar and oscar taveras but i was sort of lookin to do an all prospect trade.

would 4 A' do it?

[bugle987]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

lookin to get king felix in a trade. i was able to get him for CC jurickson profar and oscar taveras but i was sort of lookin to do an all prospect trade.

would 4 A' do it?

If your the Yankees and you have those two prospects then I'd go with Williams, Banuelos, Taveras, Profar. This isn't very realistic but it's fair none the less

[nascarfreak24ny]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

If your the Yankees and you have those two prospects then I'd go with Williams, Banuelos, Taveras, Profar. This isn't very realistic but it's fair none the less

yeah i figured just lower his ratings until they accept the 3 for 1 trade and then just trade the 4th A for their worst prospect.

[rjackson]

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Not sure if he has to be honest with you. Out side of The Show I don't really follow the Astro,s all that much

He's played all over the infield for the BoSox! I didn't know, though I liked him back when he was with Stanford...I don't follow the Red Sox, my hose are pale!

[37]

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He's played all over the infield for the BoSox! I didn't know, though I liked him back when he was with Stanford...I don't follow the Red Sox, my hose are pale!

FWIW, i'd probably agree 2B would be better suited for Lowrie but with Altuve occupying that position, he's kinda stuck at SS.....he's on the Astros for his bat not glove anyway

[stlcards234]

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Trying to trade for Dexter Fowler at the trade deadline for spot starting duties. I think he is rated a bit higher than I need (B overall, A potential) and is only 26 years old.

Some more details to hopefully increase realism of this trade:
-Currently a week after the All-Star game
-COL is 13 games out of the division
-COL has needs at SP, C, 1B
-My RF (C. Beltran) is down until the start of the playoffs at earliest
-Beltran was also my cleanup hitter so I am missing a big bat
-Fowler is also hitting .328 (Career numbers) and is 2nd in the NL in BA, 3rd in Silver Slugger voting

I only have 600k left over in my budget. The only other guy that I could go after might be M. Cabrera or N. Schierholz. But not sure if they would command different prospects?


I have plenty of prospects to trade, just not sure what ratings to trade them. Also, could you mention the OVR rating I need to trade also? I have a ton of F/D ovr, A pot prospects but I am not sure if that counts as a true A rating prospect.

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Trying to trade for Dexter Fowler at the trade deadline for spot starting duties. I think he is rated a bit higher than I need (B overall, A potential) and is only 26 years old.

Some more details to hopefully increase realism of this trade:
-Currently a week after the All-Star game
-COL is 13 games out of the division
-COL has needs at SP, C, 1B
-My RF (C. Beltran) is down until the start of the playoffs at earliest
-Beltran was also my cleanup hitter so I am missing a big bat

I have plenty of prospects to trade, just not sure what ratings to trade them. Also, could you mention the OVR rating I need to trade also? I have a ton of F/D ovr, A pot prospects but I am not sure if that counts as a true A rating prospect.

High B, mid B, low B. Would not be realistic at all to trade for him if, though, as he isn't going anywhere.

Have you considered going for CarGo instead?

[stlcards234]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

High B, mid B, low B.

Can you clarify this statement? How can I tell the difference between High/Mid/Low B's? (Sorry, relatively new to the forum.) Is this also Potential or Overall rating? Any other factors I should consider like age?

Would not be realistic at all to trade for him if, though, as he isn't going anywhere.

Sorry, I don't quite understand this line. Are you saying it is not realistic for COL to trade him?

I also forgot to mention it is the second year of my chise so the rosters are pretty different for every team. I started out with the Cards and sold off a lot of my older players for young prospects my first year at the deadline.

I am not able to go after CarGo due to his price. The Rockies have glaring weaknesses at C and 1B, both of their starters are around 30 y/o D ovr, C pot. I have Rizzo and D'Arnaud in my farm system. I could give up one of them (who would become their immediate starter) along with a couple of lower rated A or high B?

I also have the deepest farm system in regards to SP. I can part with some of them too (I essentially traded a lot of my pitchers for high level SP prospects my first year. Used the money to load up on my everyday lineup guys.)

[rjackson]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Trying to trade for Dexter Fowler at the trade deadline for spot starting duties. I think he is rated a bit higher than I need (B overall, A potential) and is only 26 years old.

Some more details to hopefully increase realism of this trade:
-Currently a week after the All-Star game
-COL is 13 games out of the division
-COL has needs at SP, C, 1B
-My RF (C. Beltran) is down until the start of the playoffs at earliest
-Beltran was also my cleanup hitter so I am missing a big bat
-Fowler is also hitting .328 (Career numbers) and is 2nd in the NL in BA, 3rd in Silver Slugger voting

I only have 600k left over in my budget. The only other guy that I could go after might be M. Cabrera or N. Schierholz. But not sure if they would command different prospects?


I have plenty of prospects to trade, just not sure what ratings to trade them. Also, could you mention the OVR rating I need to trade also? I have a ton of F/D ovr, A pot prospects but I am not sure if that counts as a true A rating prospect.

Consider that ZWheeler was given for two months of CBeltran last year. I'd say to give an A potential SP plus a decent B OF and the third player depending on how much team control is left on him, most likely another B.

Go to manage roster, scroll right to potential, and then sort. All A's are not equal nor are all B's, etc. A high B could become a low A with a hot month. I hope this clears it up some.

[stlcards234]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Consider that ZWheeler was given for two months of CBeltran last year. I'd say to give an A potential SP plus a decent B OF and the third player depending on how much team control is left on him, most likely another B.

This is his final year in his contract at 1.6 mil. Unsure if I can keep him for next year so he might only be a rental. Depending on how well I do with him and how much money my other FA might command, I might or might not have the money for Fowler. But, that being said, I'm hoping to sign him for maybe 4-5mil per year for the next couple of years. If I can do that, I would be willing to part with some pretty good prospects.

Go to manage roster, scroll right to potential, and then sort. All A's are not equal nor are all B's, etc. A high B could become a low A with a hot month. I hope this clears it up some.

I tried out the sort method. But still a bit confused on who are high/mid/low. Is this just relative to players in my own system or is it league wide? For example, Player X is a mid B on my team. If I trade him to another team, could he potentially become a low B on their team if they are already loaded with prospects similar to Player X.

Also, you said that a high B could become a low A.... Could you elaborate on that? Y. Molina has struggled at the plate for me this year. He batted .310+ (forgot exactly) while putting up some decent power numbers for him. (I think 8 HR, maybe 80RBI) But this year, he is batting .255 through the All Star Break with only 1-2 HR. He is showing up as a high B prospect on my list still. (I believe the roster originally had him at B also.) So he didn't regress despite his cold season.

Just pretty confused on how these High/Mid/Low potentials work. Do they also factor in age? I noticed all my "high" A's were much younger than my older guys.