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  • WaitTilNextYear
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    • Mar 2013
    • 16830

    #2731
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by CameRoN0407
    You cheated the AI BAD. Bumgarner is worth about 2 As and Belt is a few Bs or an A. Starling would've had to be involved.
    Spreadsheet says.....

    Bumgarner: mid A + mid A + mid A + high B

    Belt: low B
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    Butler: mid B + mid B + high C

    Pretty sure we're talking Bubba Starling + Kyle Zimmer + Eric Hosmer as a starter package. SF would probably have little interest in Butler.
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    • CameRoN0407
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      • Oct 2012
      • 3328

      #2732
      Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
      Spreadsheet says.....

      Bumgarner: mid A + mid A + mid A + high B

      Belt: low B
      _______________________________________

      Butler: mid B + mid B + high C

      Pretty sure we're talking Bubba Starling + Kyle Zimmer + Eric Hosmer as a starter package. SF would probably have little interest in Butler.
      Was at my phone and couldn't see the whole sheet(it wouldn't let me select amount of lines I want) so it only showed up to Flowers in CWS. Funny story on that, I was looking for Gavin Floyd's value and it was one short. FML.
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      • rjackson
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        • Apr 2005
        • 1661

        #2733
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by DaBull_33
        Actually, the more I think about it, the less I care about how realistic it is to make a trade right before the start of the regular season. I want to stock up on the Rox pitching depth before the season begins.

        I also don't need any changes on offense, so strike Viciedo from the list.

        I'm looking at Danks, Santiago, and Rodriguez from CWS. I want to get rid of Belisle, so what about Belisle, Blackmon, and EY Jr. for those three pitchers? I'm not huge on EY, other than his speed, and I'd rather have Colvin on the big league squad.

        Also, I was told earlier that a Chatwood for Eddie Rosario trade with Minnesota would be perfectly acceptable. So, I could trade for Rosario, then flip him along with Adames, and another prospect if need be, to St. Louis. The Rox are well below average in pitching depth, especially in the bullpen.

        Like I said, I don't particularly care about the timing of the trades, I just want to make sure they're fair.

        Thanks guys.
        I don't see why CWS would do that trade at all and if you don't care about that side of realism (you only mentioned timing) I don't think it is fair either--a solid #3 SP for a bench guy, a #5 OF, and an older RP? Oh, and you still want a young controllable RP? Oh, and throw in a fringe prospect? OK.

        PS I still dissent on the Headley trade. I just don't see SD doing it without getting an impact arm. Banuelos is unproven and Montgomery is not the prospect he once was...

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        • woody2goody
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          • Mar 2009
          • 2097

          #2734
          Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
          Pulled off my first two midseason deals in my Astros 'chise.

          Sent SP Brad Peacock and SS Brendan Ryan to LAD for SS Dee Gordon.

          Sent SP John Ely and C Carlos Corporan to PIT for C Michael McKenry.

          Both the Dodgers and Pirates are in last place in their divisions with little or no hope of contending this year (lol @ LA). I figured both teams could use youngish arms who can start rather than middling backup catchers or speed merchants like Gordon.

          I still need to find deals for Pena/Humber/Bedard/Jason Castro/Kyle McClellan/Ronny Cedeno and probably Jordan Lyles, though I will try again and see if I can get used to pitching with him.

          Some guys I still have my eye on possibly acquiring are Jemile Weeks, Brandon Belt, Lucas Duda, Jose Tabata, Kyle Blanks, Brett Gardner, David Phelps, Wily Peralta...

          My biggest need is probably a lefty slugging bat since Pena will be gone and Wallace has been meh. And this bat will need to play a corner OF spot, don't want to block Jonathan Singleton at 1B. It seems Duda fits this role best and it obtainable, though not sure I want to settle for Duda.
          I started an Astros Chise yesterday and pulled off a couple of decent deals.

          I sent Cedeno, DeShields Jr and Springer to Colorado for McClendon, Corpas and Escalona (badly needed stronger relief pitching), and also:

          Sent Peña, Carter and Maxwell to the Yankees for Gardner, Boesch and Romine.

          Brett Gardner is one of my favourite players, being able to hit for average as well as great speed and fielding ability. He will now play Centre Field in Minute Maid Park as its pretty sizeable out there!

          As for your franchise, Duda is a good player and a solid guy to add to Altuve.

          Have you kept Wallace, or did you get rid of him so Singleton comes through quicker?

          Have you thought about signing a free agent for a year such as Thome? That would be a decent temporary measure and he'll get you some dingers along the way.
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          • TMJOHNS18
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            • May 2011
            • 2586

            #2735
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Trading David Price.

            I'm having a dreadful year 1 with the Rays, and to make matters worse my projected payroll next year will decrease from 53.5m to 50m. I should free up some cap through coaches and letting some others go, but I feel locking up Price would hurt more than help with limiting my payroll flexibility the next couple of years. So 2 weeks out of the ASB I'd like to start finding some teams to move him to.

            Of course I'd rather trade him to the NL, Braves stood out, being 2.5 back of the Phillies and they have some young pitching prospects. Also have a young C who interested me (they also have Gattis on the blocks), good fielder and the Rays C are both old and poor.

            Don't know if it matters, but in sake of "realism," Price is also coming off an injury. It's June and his record is 1-2, with 1 no decision. Only 4 outings on the year and only been off the DL for a week. Would playing out the rest of his starts in June and doing well improve his virtual trade value? Of course, if he loses out you'd think it would be lowered.


            How would the value of the Braves 21 year old C (B pot) and 2 young SP's compare to the value of rusty Price?

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            • Totte
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              • Mar 2005
              • 2919

              #2736
              Originally posted by TMJOHNS18
              Trading David Price.

              I'm having a dreadful year 1 with the Rays, and to make matters worse my projected payroll next year will decrease from 53.5m to 50m. I should free up some cap through coaches and letting some others go, but I feel locking up Price would hurt more than help with limiting my payroll flexibility the next couple of years. So 2 weeks out of the ASB I'd like to start finding some teams to move him to.

              Of course I'd rather trade him to the NL, Braves stood out, being 2.5 back of the Phillies and they have some young pitching prospects. Also have a young C who interested me (they also have Gattis on the blocks), good fielder and the Rays C are both old and poor.

              Don't know if it matters, but in sake of "realism," Price is also coming off an injury. It's June and his record is 1-2, with 1 no decision. Only 4 outings on the year and only been off the DL for a week. Would playing out the rest of his starts in June and doing well improve his virtual trade value? Of course, if he loses out you'd think it would be lowered.


              How would the value of the Braves 21 year old C (B pot) and 2 young SP's compare to the value of rusty Price?
              What's the potential of the two young Braves starters you speak of? Even though Price would be rusty, I'd say you can ask for at least one more elite prospect. He won't be a free agent until after the 2014 season the team that's trading for him is looking at 1 1/2 seasons of value (if they don't resign him).

              I'd say his virtual value is about the same even if you let him go another start or two for you. Reason for waiting would be to get a clearer picture of contenders that'd be willing to pony up a nice package to you. Reason to ship him out asap would be to start your youth movement a bit earlier
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              • Bronx Bomber03
                Banned
                • Mar 2013
                • 240

                #2737
                Originally posted by TMJOHNS18
                Trading David Price.

                I'm having a dreadful year 1 with the Rays, and to make matters worse my projected payroll next year will decrease from 53.5m to 50m. I should free up some cap through coaches and letting some others go, but I feel locking up Price would hurt more than help with limiting my payroll flexibility the next couple of years. So 2 weeks out of the ASB I'd like to start finding some teams to move him to.

                Of course I'd rather trade him to the NL, Braves stood out, being 2.5 back of the Phillies and they have some young pitching prospects. Also have a young C who interested me (they also have Gattis on the blocks), good fielder and the Rays C are both old and poor.

                Don't know if it matters, but in sake of "realism," Price is also coming off an injury. It's June and his record is 1-2, with 1 no decision. Only 4 outings on the year and only been off the DL for a week. Would playing out the rest of his starts in June and doing well improve his virtual trade value? Of course, if he loses out you'd think it would be lowered.


                How would the value of the Braves 21 year old C (B pot) and 2 young SP's compare to the value of rusty Price?
                You could also bring in Texas to deal for Price.

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                • DaBull_33
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                  • Mar 2013
                  • 601

                  #2738
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by rjackson
                  I don't see why CWS would do that trade at all and if you don't care about that side of realism (you only mentioned timing) I don't think it is fair either--a solid #3 SP for a bench guy, a #5 OF, and an older RP? Oh, and you still want a young controllable RP? Oh, and throw in a fringe prospect? OK.

                  Any suggestions? I'm trying to go by the spreadsheet, but Danks is the only one on there. It says he's worth a mid C prospect. I don't mind adding to the offer, but I don't want to give the farm away for a #3 starter, a mid C reliever, and a fringe prospect.

                  The Rox have some B and C potential prospects at catcher and in the outfield. Should I add one of them to the offer?
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                  • TMJOHNS18
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                    • May 2011
                    • 2586

                    #2739
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Both are B pot SP's, think both are 23 as well. Nothing really special about them. Would a move instead for Minor be wiser? He's their 4 I think. Rays got a few good prospects and the Braves SP's would fall mid to back of the pecking order.

                    I'll probably wait a couple weeks in game and like you said see which teams are making a playoff push.

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                    • Totte
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2919

                      #2740
                      Originally posted by Bronx Bomber03
                      You could also bring in Texas to deal for Price.

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                      Good call! They've got some nice pieces to build a deal around as well.

                      Guess the Cubs would be interested as well but they haven't got the same talent pool for you to pick from
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                      • Totte
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                        • Mar 2005
                        • 2919

                        #2741
                        Originally posted by DaBull_33
                        Any suggestions? I'm trying to go by the spreadsheet, but Danks is the only one on there. It says he's worth a mid C prospect. I don't mind adding to the offer, but I don't want to give the farm away for a #3 starter, a mid C reliever, and a fringe prospect.

                        The Rox have some B and C potential prospects at catcher and in the outfield. Should I add one of them to the offer?
                        I'd look to add the highest rated B catching prospect. With Rosario in Denver and the ChiSox being pretty bare at C behind Flowers, it's safe to say they'd be targeting a catcher to build depth
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                        • Totte
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 2919

                          #2742
                          Originally posted by TMJOHNS18
                          Both are B pot SP's, think both are 23 as well. Nothing really special about them. Would a move instead for Minor be wiser? He's their 4 I think. Rays got a few good prospects and the Braves SP's would fall mid to back of the pecking order.

                          I'll probably wait a couple weeks in game and like you said see which teams are making a playoff push.

                          Sounds like a good idea to wait and see how the market develops for him. Dangle him on the block in the meantime and see what teams that are showing interest in him through that channel. If you're gonna start him for another game or two, watch out for him being tired late in the games to try and avoid another injury.

                          I'd opt for some of the younger arms in the Braves minors rather than Minor. They've got some great pitchers coming up and considering you'll be building from the ground up and not necessarily looking for a major league arm, that's the way to go. I mean you'll still have Niemann, Cobb, Archer, Hernandez (Carmona) and a few other guys to round out the rotation with. Aim for the upside from their minors as you'll manage to put together a rotation for the rest of the season anyway with the arms you've got
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                          • DaBull_33
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                            • Mar 2013
                            • 601

                            #2743
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Totte
                            I'd look to add the highest rated B catching prospect. With Rosario in Denver and the ChiSox being pretty bare at C behind Flowers, it's safe to say they'd be targeting a catcher to build depth
                            That was my thought exactly. Rosario's gonna be the catcher of the future in Denver. They've got plenty of depth behind him. It wouldn't hurt them in the least to send off their top catching prospect.

                            Thanks!
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                            • bartone33
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 122

                              #2744
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              I just restarted my Franchise with the Yankees and am now using the latest version of the OSFM rosters. What are some fair and realistic trades I can make before I end Spring Training. I would like to realistically bring in some younger players that will be MLB ready in a year or two.

                              Players I wouldn't mind parting ways with to bring in younger players:
                              SP Hiroki Kuroda (Age 38/OVR 89/POT A)
                              RF Ichiro Suzuki (Age 39/OVR 89/POT A)
                              3B Alex Rodriguez (Age 37/OVR 88/POT A)
                              CF Curtis Granderson (Age 31/OVR 87/POT B)
                              3B Kevin Youkilis (Age 33/OVR 85/POT B)

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                              • CameRoN0407
                                It's a New England Thing
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 3328

                                #2745
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by bartone33
                                I just restarted my Franchise with the Yankees and am now using the latest version of the OSFM rosters. What are some fair and realistic trades I can make before I end Spring Training. I would like to realistically bring in some younger players that will be MLB ready in a year or two.

                                Players I wouldn't mind parting ways with to bring in younger players:
                                SP Hiroki Kuroda (Age 38/OVR 89/POT A)
                                RF Ichiro Suzuki (Age 39/OVR 89/POT A)
                                3B Alex Rodriguez (Age 37/OVR 88/POT A)
                                CF Curtis Granderson (Age 31/OVR 87/POT B)
                                3B Kevin Youkilis (Age 33/OVR 85/POT B)
                                I would wait until the ASB to get some stats. But ill tell you right now, A-Roid won't go nowhere due to his horrid contract...
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