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  • DaBull_33
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    • Mar 2013
    • 601

    #8521
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
    I'm not sure. The Rockies really have no blue chip pitching prospects, and all of their better ones are 24 or 25 already it seems. You may be able to put together a package around Dahl rather than Story (since the Brewers have Segura at SS), but the Brewers would probably want a good SP prospect if they were to package Gallardo/Ramirez/Weeks all together, or even for 2 of those 3. Story and Herrera would have value to the Brewers if they could play 2B or 3B full time.
    Here are some stats for the three guys from Milwaukee, and some top prospects that could be dealt:

    Milwaukee:

    Gallardo: 5-8, 89.2 IP, 4.52 ERA, 84 K, 37 BB, 1.61 WHIP, .295 BAA, 3.814 DIPS, .361 BIPA

    Weeks: 275 AB, .269/.347/.458, .806 OPS, 10 HR, 23 RBI

    Ramirez: 282 AB, .312/.343/.535, .879 OPS, 16 HR, 39 RBI



    Colorado:

    Nicasio (MLB): 8-5, 88.0 IP, 3.78 ERA, 66 K, 11 BB, 1.22 WHIP, .277 BAA, 3.205 DIPS, .320 BIPA

    Anderson (AA): 4-4, 81.1 IP, 2.88 ERA, 67 K, 21 BB, 1.16 WHIP, .235 BAA, 2.447 DIPS, .293 BIPA

    Murphy (AA): 204 AB, .275/.354/.471, .824 OPS, 9 HR, 34 RBI,

    Story (AA): 161 AB, .298/.352/.472, .824 OPS, 6 HR, 33 RBI

    Dahl (AA): 211 AB, .341/.407/.507, .914 OPS, 4 HR, 31 RBI

    Ryan Wheeler (AAA): 244 AB, .291/.358/.443, .801 OPS, 8 HR, 30 RBI

    Eddie Butler (AA): 5-3, 69.2 IP, 4.26 ERA, 73 K, 22 BB, 1.33 WHIP, .267 BAA, 2.598 DIPS, .354 BIPA


    Just as a side note, Story has seen significant time at 3B in the minor leagues IRL. With Tulo firmly entrenched at SS, they wanted to get Story playing time at the hot corner.
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    • AC
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      • Sep 2010
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      #8522
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Story/Dahl + Nicasio + Anderson + Murphy.
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      • G3no_11
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        • Oct 2012
        • 1110

        #8523
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        I think Story would be a good trade chip for the Brewers. He could move to 3rd and I don't think the Brewers have much of a future planned out there if I remember correctly. I would throw Story in instead of Dahl.

        Nicasio really isn't pitching that bad at all. I would maybe think about keeping him and just focusing on Weeks + Ramirez.
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        • WaitTilNextYear
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          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #8524
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan99
          Sorry, IFA budget space. You can trade for that now. Like the Ronald Torreyes deal. I think. Damn CBA.
          So, the value of an individual IFA slot then? Yeah, 1st rounders in the C range, with the top slots being C+/B-. 2nd & 3rd rounders C/C-, and below that ptbnl/cash territory.

          Originally posted by ACMilan99
          Story/Dahl + Nicasio + Anderson + Murphy.
          lmao, that was his original proposal.

          I'd suggest to include Dahl over Story since Dahl could play OF or 1B eventually and who knows with Braun at this point. With Gennett and Segura, I'm not sure how desperate they'd be for a MI prospect.

          Keeping Story also gives a nice insurance policy were you to trade Tulo or lose him to injury.
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          • WaitTilNextYear
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            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #8525
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by G3no_11
            I think Story would be a good trade chip for the Brewers. He could move to 3rd and I don't think the Brewers have much of a future planned out there if I remember correctly. I would throw Story in instead of Dahl.

            Nicasio really isn't pitching that bad at all. I would maybe think about keeping him and just focusing on Weeks + Ramirez.
            Can Story play 3B? I doubt his bat profiles well there given the suckage that 2013 has been for him. Plus, Brewers just dealt for Delmonico to address 3B, not sure if that's reflected in his rosters or not.
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            • G3no_11
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 1110

              #8526
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
              Can Story play 3B? I doubt his bat profiles well there given the suckage that 2013 has been for him. Plus, Brewers just dealt for Delmonico to address 3B, not sure if that's reflected in his rosters or not.
              Forgot about Delmonico, but yes Story has played a limited amount of time at 3rd. His bat is finally starting to come around a tiny bit.. He's got his average up into the .220's haha. Just shows how awful the first half of his season was. I think he was hovering around/below the Mendoza for most of the year.
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              • WaitTilNextYear
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                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #8527
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by G3no_11
                Forgot about Delmonico, but yes Story has played a limited amount of time at 3rd. His bat is finally starting to come around a tiny bit.. He's got his average up into the .220's haha. Just shows how awful the first half of his season was. I think he was hovering around/below the Mendoza for most of the year.
                He also mentioned that Story has been getting PT at 3B in his chise, so maybe Story's in game ability at 3B will surpass his real life ability. I just think Dahl would be more useful to the Brewers, plus he's performing better in the chise.
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                • DaBull_33
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                  • Mar 2013
                  • 601

                  #8528
                  I was leaning towards Dahl, given the real lack of OF talent in MIL.

                  Nicasio is pitching fairly well, but I've got some good depth behind him thanks to some early season trades. I don't mind letting him go.


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                  • G3no_11
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                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1110

                    #8529
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by DaBull_33
                    I was leaning towards Dahl, given the real lack of OF talent in MIL.

                    Nicasio is pitching fairly well, but I've got some good depth behind him thanks to some early season trades. I don't mind letting him go.


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                    Yeah I don't really know much about the Brewers minor league system. If they are weak at OF, Dahl would be a nice piece too.

                    If you have pitching depth behind Nicasio, why trade him for Gallardo with such poor stats? Just seems unnecessary to trade for him and lose some solid minor's depth.
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                    • DaBull_33
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                      • Mar 2013
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                      #8530
                      Originally posted by G3no_11
                      Yeah I don't really know much about the Brewers minor league system. If they are weak at OF, Dahl would be a nice piece too.

                      If you have pitching depth behind Nicasio, why trade him for Gallardo with such poor stats? Just seems unnecessary to trade for him and lose some solid minor's depth.
                      I've always pitched well with Gallardo, and I feel like I can turn his season around. Also, he's on a hot streak lately, and his numbers have been improving drastically.

                      I'm going to wait until closer to the deadline anyway, so there's a decent chance his stats will continue to improve. Unfortunately, he's getting next to no run support.



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                      • WaitTilNextYear
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                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #8531
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by DaBull_33
                        I've always pitched well with Gallardo, and I feel like I can turn his season around. Also, he's on a hot streak lately, and his numbers have been improving drastically.

                        I'm going to wait until closer to the deadline anyway, so there's a decent chance his stats will continue to improve. Unfortunately, he's getting next to no run support.



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                        If you can get past the ERA, BAA, and WHIP, it looks like Gallardo's actually doing ok. 3.81 DIPS, 8.43 K/9, 2.27 K/BB are pretty decent. The .361 BIPA should regress. IRL Gallardo's got a 1.33 career GB/FB ratio too, so that should help at Coors. Not sure how faithfully that is replicated in the game though.
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                        • KnickNation17
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                          • Feb 2012
                          • 263

                          #8532
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Would the Giants be willing to trade Gary Brown for Johan Santana (4-11 4.44 ERA last year of contract) or is that to steep of a price for the Giants to pay? They are 4 out of the West and 2.5 out of the wildcard.

                          Lincecum and Vogelsong are both hurt so they need the pitching. When they come back the Giants would have a rotation of all 83ovr or above. Santana is an 88 and he's not declining at all. He's actually increasing in some categories. Despite his record and ERA he hasn't pitched terribly this year.

                          Just a thought. Would love to hear some opinions.

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                          • BlueJays09
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                            • Jul 2011
                            • 2553

                            #8533
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Hey guys earlier I was told Boni for Reynolds/Carrasco was fair since Reynolds was DFA. Now today I learn, Boni was dealt for cash so I am wondering if this is still fair or maybe I give them back Carrasco and just make it boni for reynolds (cash for dfa lol)

                            Thanks

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                            • Totte
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                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2919

                              #8534
                              Originally posted by KnickNation17
                              Would the Giants be willing to trade Gary Brown for Johan Santana (4-11 4.44 ERA last year of contract) or is that to steep of a price for the Giants to pay? They are 4 out of the West and 2.5 out of the wildcard.

                              Lincecum and Vogelsong are both hurt so they need the pitching. When they come back the Giants would have a rotation of all 83ovr or above. Santana is an 88 and he's not declining at all. He's actually increasing in some categories. Despite his record and ERA he hasn't pitched terribly this year.

                              Just a thought. Would love to hear some opinions.
                              Brown has been pretty bad this year and looks like a 4th OF'er at this point. However, it's only one bad season and there's still upside. I could see the Giants dealing him in an attempt to bolster that rotation for the stretch run BUT the focus is probably on a pitcher they can control beyond 2013. Lincecum is a free agent just like Santana so the 2014 rotation would look a bit thin with just Cain and Bumgarner there.

                              Hard to speculate on deals since we don't know what teams that are sellers. Brown is certainly a fit for the Mets but rather in a deal for Niese.
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                              • AC
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                                • Sep 2010
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                                #8535
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by BlueJays09
                                Hey guys earlier I was told Boni for Reynolds/Carrasco was fair since Reynolds was DFA. Now today I learn, Boni was dealt for cash so I am wondering if this is still fair or maybe I give them back Carrasco and just make it boni for reynolds (cash for dfa lol)

                                Thanks
                                I don't think Carrasco is anything to feel guilty over lol. It's fine.
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