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  • skow05
    Pro
    • Aug 2008
    • 500

    #211
    Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

    Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
    @ Skow

    Looking good man. Are you missing some outs? I'm amazed that you only K'd 5 times with 29 misses! That in itself is an achievement in my book!

    Curious, 9 CPU misses and a fairly high Stike%, how many walks did you surrender? I've been focusing on trying to achieve the perfect balance of strikes for chases and those taken by the CPU for balls - I throw a lot WAY off the plate to entice swing through in the zone (or first pitch strikes later in the game). The HOF CPU batting AI is pretty good, and tricking them is quite a challenge (I have CPU Control and Consistency at 4, and CPU Contact at 4 as well.)
    Ya it was just me swinging at stupid pitches early in the count, that's what the majority of those misses are.

    I surrendered 4 BB's that game. It felt good. It's just been pretty consistent with the CPU being under 10 misses a game for me, and a fairly high foul ball number for them as well. Maybe I need to drop CPU timing 1?

    I exited this last game without taking down the pitching/batting numbers, ugh. My bad.

    Lost 3-1. Took 3 BB's, surrendered 1. 6 hits for me, all of the single variety. Does anyone else notice the CPU Outfielder's are playing ridiculously deep? I feel like they've cut off a lot of my balls that are making plays for doubles since they are almost at the wall. What would be a good experiment with the Fielder speed/reaction time? Drop speed 1/2 and raise reaction 1/2? I'm getting pretty frustrated with my lack of extra base hits.
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    • Heroesandvillains
      MVP
      • May 2009
      • 5974

      #212
      Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

      Originally posted by skow05
      Ya it was just me swinging at stupid pitches early in the count, that's what the majority of those misses are.

      I surrendered 4 BB's that game. It felt good. It's just been pretty consistent with the CPU being under 10 misses a game for me, and a fairly high foul ball number for them as well. Maybe I need to drop CPU timing 1?

      I exited this last game without taking down the pitching/batting numbers, ugh. My bad.

      Lost 3-1. Took 3 BB's, surrendered 1. 6 hits for me, all of the single variety. Does anyone else notice the CPU Outfielder's are playing ridiculously deep? I feel like they've cut off a lot of my balls that are making plays for doubles since they are almost at the wall. What would be a good experiment with the Fielder speed/reaction time? Drop speed 1/2 and raise reaction 1/2? I'm getting pretty frustrated with my lack of extra base hits.
      Yes. Dropping speed and raising reaction is a great experiment. Raising reaction will compensate for inflated outfield hit totals, by quickening the initial step from infielders. I'm not telling you to do it though. I've seen no evidence on my end to drop run speed further.

      Careful with dropping CPU hitting. With your lowered control/consistency, it may need to be done, but you JUST made your pitching harder. This early on it would be unfair for you to make the CPU hit worse. Kinda counterproductive without a decent sample size. But yes, dropping timing should inflate misses.
      Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-06-2011, 09:02 PM.

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      • amo13
        Banned
        • Mar 2011
        • 81

        #213
        Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

        ok listen i am havin the hardest time hitting it seems that i cant get anything goin at all....i want to play with the anolog stick hitting and matter of fact for everything used in the game i used tkn sliders and i jsut cant hit or pitch or anything i want sliders that i can use that give the best most realistic game i can play anyone recommend sliders for me if so are these sliders good for using the anolog hitting

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        • Heroesandvillains
          MVP
          • May 2009
          • 5974

          #214
          Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

          Originally posted by amo13
          ok listen i am havin the hardest time hitting it seems that i cant get anything goin at all....i want to play with the anolog stick hitting and matter of fact for everything used in the game i used tkn sliders and i jsut cant hit or pitch or anything i want sliders that i can use that give the best most realistic game i can play anyone recommend sliders for me if so are these sliders good for using the anolog hitting
          Were you using Analog with TNK's set? What difficulty and why was it too hard? Could you explain?

          Jgainsey is using analog hitting/pitching. His sliders are on page one.

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          • amo13
            Banned
            • Mar 2011
            • 81

            #215
            Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

            Originally posted by heroesandvillians
            Were you using Analog with TNK's set? What difficulty and why was it too hard? Could you explain?

            Jgainsey is using analog hitting/pitching. His sliders are on page one.
            im on allatar difficulty with tnk sliders but its so dang hard to hit with there sliders and wheni tried to adjust the sliders i jsut messed it up

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            • Bobhead
              Pro
              • Mar 2011
              • 4926

              #216
              Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

              Try lowering the difficulty to Veteran a bit, until you become more comfortable at the plate, TK's sliders should still work on Veteran, because they are really similar to what I used on Veteran.

              If all else fails just raise Solid Hits a little bit, since TK has it pretty low, at a 2 I think.

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              • amo13
                Banned
                • Mar 2011
                • 81

                #217
                Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                Originally posted by Bobhead
                Try lowering the difficulty to Veteran a bit, until you become more comfortable at the plate, TK's sliders should still work on Veteran, because they are really similar to what I used on Veteran.

                If all else fails just raise Solid Hits a little bit, since TK has it pretty low, at a 2 I think.
                yeah his is at 2 i raised it to three and lowered the cpu but they still raked and i couldnt get one past the pitcher are these sliders available on sportsconnect

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                • coreyhartsdaughter
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1107

                  #218
                  Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                  Originally posted by skow05
                  Ya it was just me swinging at stupid pitches early in the count, that's what the majority of those misses are.

                  I surrendered 4 BB's that game. It felt good. It's just been pretty consistent with the CPU being under 10 misses a game for me, and a fairly high foul ball number for them as well. Maybe I need to drop CPU timing 1?

                  I exited this last game without taking down the pitching/batting numbers, ugh. My bad.

                  Lost 3-1. Took 3 BB's, surrendered 1. 6 hits for me, all of the single variety. Does anyone else notice the CPU Outfielder's are playing ridiculously deep? I feel like they've cut off a lot of my balls that are making plays for doubles since they are almost at the wall. What would be a good experiment with the Fielder speed/reaction time? Drop speed 1/2 and raise reaction 1/2? I'm getting pretty frustrated with my lack of extra base hits.
                  I've been playing Fielder Speed 2, Reaction 7 out of the box. I also have arm strength at default, and base-runner speed default. I'm a little confused as to why so many sets are lowing arm strength AND base-runner speed, or lowing arm strength to lower than speed. (?)

                  In years past there was a blantent issue with fielders being a little too powerful, but I'm not seeing it this year. In fact, I can count on one hand how many times in the past I threw a guy out at home from the outfield, or by hitting the cutoff man last year...I feel default for both of these is perfect. (In fact, it balances the shallow fly ball tag / sac fly, as well as the ability to go from first to third on most any single to left field with a decent runner...only speed guys are making that transition now.

                  I guess I've just been watching a TON of games recently with MLBTV, and seeing actual plays / happenings and how they should realistically translate to The Show is my goal.

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                  • Bobhead
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4926

                    #219
                    Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                    Because too many runners beat out infield singles, and too many fielders throw the ball in too quickly, you're right its not nearly as bad as last year though, I have both of mine at 4, and I feel like that's perfect.

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                    • coreyhartsdaughter
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1107

                      #220
                      Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                      I think my set is just about done. The one slider I'm still debating is HUM contact 3 or 4. I'll post V1 tomorrow.

                      Just won a walk off win against KC with SEA. Should have won 2 batters earlier, but Ichiro was 'barely' thrown out on a weak single to left. Could have gone either way. Very exciting play.

                      My O line: 40 AB, 5 R, 12 H, 5 RBI, 1 BB, 13 (!) K, 1 2B, 2 3B, 2 HR, 1 E

                      My Pitching line:

                      Bedard: 4.1 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 5 K
                      Wilhelmsen: 2.2 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 2 K
                      Wright: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 1 K
                      Ray: (W) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 1 K

                      I fouled 27, Missed 31, Chased 22, 9 Flyballs, 8 Line Drives, 16 Ground Balls, 1 Pop-up, 4 Choppers

                      CPU O Line: 35 AB, 9 H, 4 R,3 RBI, 4 BB, 9 K, 1 HR, 2 E

                      They fouled 27, Missed 17, Chased 19, 12 Flyballs, 10 Line Drives, 16 Ground Balls, 1 Pop-up, 2 Choppers

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                      • coreyhartsdaughter
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1107

                        #221
                        Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                        Originally posted by Bobhead
                        Because too many runners beat out infield singles, and too many fielders throw the ball in too quickly, you're right its not nearly as bad as last year though, I have both of mine at 4, and I feel like that's perfect.
                        I guess if they counter each other equally. With anything lower than 5 for both I feel like I see too many infield plays to the left side with guys who have decent speed and they're 2 or 3 strides from the bag - no way that happens in the MLB, those guys are a stride away if not closer.

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                        • amo13
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 81

                          #222
                          Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                          Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
                          I think my set is just about done. The one slider I'm still debating is HUM contact 3 or 4. I'll post V1 tomorrow.

                          Just won a walk off win against KC with SEA. Should have won 2 batters earlier, but Ichiro was 'barely' thrown out on a weak single to left. Could have gone either way. Very exciting play.

                          My O line: 40 AB, 5 R, 12 H, 5 RBI, 1 BB, 13 (!) K, 1 2B, 2 3B, 2 HR, 1 E

                          My Pitching line:

                          Bedard: 4.1 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 5 K
                          Wilhelmsen: 2.2 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 2 K
                          Wright: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 1 K
                          Ray: (W) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 1 K

                          I fouled 27, Missed 31, Chased 22, 9 Flyballs, 8 Line Drives, 16 Ground Balls, 1 Pop-up, 4 Choppers

                          CPU O Line: 35 AB, 9 H, 4 R,3 RBI, 4 BB, 9 K, 1 HR, 2 E

                          They fouled 27, Missed 17, Chased 19, 12 Flyballs, 10 Line Drives, 16 Ground Balls, 1 Pop-up, 2 Choppers
                          hey bro im just curious are you getting these results using anolog contolrs and if so are these your personal sliders or these sliders here posted if you could give me a response asap that would b nice i appreciate it thanks in advance

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                          • coreyhartsdaughter
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1107

                            #223
                            Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                            Originally posted by amo13
                            hey bro im just curious are you getting these results using anolog contolrs and if so are these your personal sliders or these sliders here posted if you could give me a response asap that would b nice i appreciate it thanks in advance
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                            These are my personal sliders. I haven't posted them yet - will tomorrow.

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                            • amo13
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 81

                              #224
                              Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                              dang i was hoping of finding analog controls just because i like the feel that i have of the batter with them thanks tho i appreciate feedback that quick

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                              • Bobhead
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 4926

                                #225
                                Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                                Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
                                I guess if they counter each other equally. With anything lower than 5 for both I feel like I see too many infield plays to the left side with guys who have decent speed and they're 2 or 3 strides from the bag - no way that happens in the MLB, those guys are a stride away if not closer.
                                I agree, and this still bugs me, but then at 5 I see too many plays where a slow runner comes close to beating out the ball, when in real life there are an infinite number of plays where the fielder can "take their time".

                                I think the real issue is that the speed scale is off, to have it play properly at 5, the slower guys need to be slowed down, without the faster ones being affected.

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