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  • eamuscatuli15
    Rookie
    • Oct 2009
    • 357

    #361
    Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

    jgainsey you're the analog machine...after reading the list of fixes i'm wondering what you're seeing with analog hitting? got any feedback...
    MLB: Chicago Cubs
    NCAA Hoops: Georgetown Hoyas
    NBA: Los Angeles Lakers
    NFL: Kansas City Chiefs
    NCAA Football: Nebraska Cornhuskers
    HS Football: Rolla High School Bulldogs '95 (12-1)


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    • Jgainsey
      I can't feel it
      • Mar 2007
      • 3362

      #362
      Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

      I really haven't noticed much of a difference in the post-patch analog hitting. Russel did mention that the timing window was a little bigger, but the difference seems subtle enough to where I don't think it's going to warrant any slider changes. I can definitely tell that the timing window is slightly more forgiving, but so far it hasn't translated to any difference at the plate for me.


      EDIT: Btw, I'm really liking fielder speed/reaction at 2/6, and I'm willing to bet that CHD was right on the money with 2/7. I though that raising reaction to 7 might over compensate for speed at 2, but I was wrong. The higher reaction definitely complements lower fielder speed nicely. I think that's what I'll be going with from now on.

      I also forgot to update starter stamina last time I updated the set on the first page. I've been going with 6 for a while, with reliever stamina still at 2.
      Last edited by Jgainsey; 04-26-2011, 12:54 PM.
      Now, more than ever

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      • Heroesandvillains
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 5974

        #363
        Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

        Starter stamina at 6? User and CPU? Why?

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        • Jelek11
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 23

          #364
          Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

          I've tried fielder speed everywhere from 5 to 1 and I've settled on 1 as the double:hr ratio has been good as well as the total number of xbh's. The only problem is that anything under 4 results in way too many triples. To combat this I lowered br speed to 4 and now everything is perfect..... Except double plays which are now a bit too high. So I lowered fielder reaction from 7 to 5 and will see how that works. Just for the record I use analog hitting on veteran with solid hits at 1 and power at 4.

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          • Jgainsey
            I can't feel it
            • Mar 2007
            • 3362

            #365
            Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

            Originally posted by heroesandvillians
            Starter stamina at 6? User and CPU? Why?
            The energy just doesn't regenerate enough for my liking on the user end. Especially when you get into one of those long stretches with out a day off for 2 weeks or so. And it's almost like you're being punished for having a really solid outing in the 105+ pitch count range. Even at 6, I find that the energy bar still comes up short after normal rest, but it seems to be more reasonable.

            As far as the CPU goes, I was seeing a few too many pitchers being yanked before they finished the 5th inning, and they'd only be in the 80's with their pitch count. It also balances nicely with nicely with manager hook at 6.
            Now, more than ever

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            • Heroesandvillains
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 5974

              #366
              Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

              I finally had a huge hit game!!!!

              12 runs on 19 hits. Damn, that felt good. And was much needed.

              And then, I promptly got held to 4 hits over a ten inning game.

              Man, this game will humble you in an instant.

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              • Bobhead
                Pro
                • Mar 2011
                • 4926

                #367
                Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                That happens to me all the time, too. I think it has to do with how our mental approach changes at the plate when we are hitting everything. I find myself striking out a ton in the game following a slugfest.

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                • Heroesandvillains
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 5974

                  #368
                  Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                  Originally posted by Bobhead
                  That happens to me all the time, too. I think it has to do with how our mental approach changes at the plate when we are hitting everything. I find myself striking out a ton in the game following a slugfest.
                  Yep. Same here.

                  10 times...the most of any game under my current franchise.

                  Hmmm...never considered that until now. Thanks Bob.

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                  • Jgainsey
                    I can't feel it
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 3362

                    #369
                    Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                    Alright, it's been a little while, but the first month of my Braves franchise is in the books, and I thought I'd share some stats with you guys. Aside from some very small tweaks, I've been using the sliders posted on the first page for the entirety of the first month.

                    I'll post my small slider changes in a few minutes, and that's probably going to be pretty close to a final set on my end.



                    Current Record: 15-13


                    ---Offense---

                    Batting Average: .253

                    Runs: 119 (4.25/gm)

                    2B: 52 (1.86/gm)

                    3B: 7 (0.25/gm)

                    HR: 24 (0.86/gm)

                    BB: 86 (3.07/gm)

                    SO: 223 (7.95/gm)

                    SLG%: .400

                    OBP: .318

                    RISP AVG: .295


                    ---Pitching/Defense---

                    ERA: 3.66

                    Runs: 113 (4.03/gm)

                    Hits: 241 (8.61/gm)

                    HR: 21 (0.75/gm)

                    BB: 88 (3.14)

                    SO: 209 (7.46/gm)

                    WHIP: 1.31

                    Errors: 17 (0.61/gm)


                    I went ahead and took some pics of the batting stats. If anyone wants to see pictures of any other stats, just ask.. and I'll post 'em.

                    Spoiler


                    Everything is right about where I want it. I do want to start walking a little more, so I did move move control/consistency/strike freq. from 5/5/3 to 5/4/4 a few games ago. I'm pretty sure the subtle difference I'm noticing will be enough to provide that slight boost in walks I'm looking for. Other than that, I'm pretty damn happy with the way the game is playing for me.
                    Now, more than ever

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                    • coreyhartsdaughter
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1107

                      #370
                      Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                      Wow. Given that our sliders are pretty close , I'm really interested in your HR production with power so low (McClouth has 2!).

                      I'm going to play my next game with it at 3 and see how it feels.
                      Last edited by coreyhartsdaughter; 05-05-2011, 04:20 PM.

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                      • Jgainsey
                        I can't feel it
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 3362

                        #371
                        Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                        Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
                        Wow. Given that our sliders are pretty close , I'm really interested in your HR production with power so low (McClouth has 2!).

                        I'm going to play my next game with it at 3 and see how it feels.
                        Yeah, I was actually kind of surprised to see the effect it had. I was worried that while helping with HRs, it would throw the rest of my offense out of whack. But to be honest, I really haven't notice any difference, aside from my HR totals being cut in half! Everything else has balanced out quite nicely.

                        Not only does McLouth have 2 dingers, but Brandon Hicks(backup SS) has 2 as well! I was afraid power at 2 might zap the HRs away from players with less power, but it really hasn't.

                        One month is still slightly small for sample size, but I think I'll know if power at 2 is going to work out after over the next few weeks in my franchise. At times, I feel like the HRs aren't going to stay at their current rate, and that I'm going to need to bump it up to 3. But then I'll play a series where I knock 5-7 out, and I feel stupid for worrying about it.

                        I think a 2.5 might be perfect, but for the sake of fun I would rather have slightly too many HRs than too few. 2 has been good to me so far, so hopefully the HR totals can hold up over the course of a season. If not, I think I could probably be happy with 3 too.
                        Last edited by Jgainsey; 05-05-2011, 04:29 PM.
                        Now, more than ever

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                        • coreyhartsdaughter
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1107

                          #372
                          Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                          Originally posted by Jgainsey
                          Yeah, I was actually kind of surprised to see the effect it had. I was worried that while helping with HRs, it would throw the rest of my offense out of whack. But to be honest, I really haven't notice any difference, aside from my HR totals being cut in half! Everything else has balanced out quite nicely.

                          Not only does McLouth have 2 dingers, but Brandon Hicks(backup SS) has 2 as well! I was afraid power at 2 might zap the HRs away from players with less power, but it really hasn't.

                          One month is still slightly small for sample size, but I think I'll know if power at 2 is going to work out after over the next few weeks in my franchise. At times, I feel like the HRs aren't going to stay at their current rate, and that I'm going to need to bump it up to 3. But then I'll play a series where I knock 5-7 out, and I feel stupid for worrying about it.

                          I think a 2.5 might be perfect, but for the sake of fun I would rather have slightly too many HRs than too few. 2 has been good to me so far, so hopefully the HR totals can hold up over the course of a season. If not, I think I could probably be happy with 3 too.
                          Now I'm going to freak out and want to restart my chise' (!)...HUM HR was the only think I was concerned with, although I've yet to lead the league in HR, I always felt as though I was hitting slightly too many given some of the locations / timing (specifically with Prince and Weeks).

                          That, coupled with some of the feedback in my thread and you may be on to something. Quite honestly I never went below 5 through all my testing, as I was rather adamant not about zapping certain guys power (and in year past found I had to raise power when lowering contact, seemed to be even more the case this year - which makes more sense given that I have contact 4 and you have 5), and through all the testing / timing / games I played never really felt hitting HR was too easy.

                          That said, you're hitting on analog right? From what I've garnered its slightly more forgiving on the deep ball?

                          At any rate. Crap, I'm intrigued.

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                          • Heroesandvillains
                            MVP
                            • May 2009
                            • 5974

                            #373
                            Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                            Yeah, I'm pretty impressed too.

                            I have my power at 4, and I just posted today that I MAY lower it, but wanted some more time to see the numbers balance out.

                            But THIS; I think has swayed me to go to at least to 3 for now.

                            Nice work Jgainsey.

                            Now, I may then lower fielder run speed to go with this. If I go from 4 to 3, should I raise reaction from 5 to 6 for compensation? Will I see it effect the CPU at all batting average-wise (obviously, since I like how the CPU is playing, I should at least consider how changing run speed/reaction will influence them)?

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                            • Heroesandvillains
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 5974

                              #374
                              Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                              Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
                              Now I'm going to freak out and want to restart my chise' (!)...HUM HR was the only think I was concerned with, although I've yet to lead the league in HR, I always felt as though I was hitting slightly too many given some of the locations / timing (specifically with Prince and Weeks).

                              That, coupled with some of the feedback in my thread and you may be on to something. Quite honestly I never went below 5 through all my testing, as I was rather adamant not about zapping certain guys power (and in year past found I had to raise power when lowering contact, seemed to be even more the case this year - which makes more sense given that I have contact 4 and you have 5), and through all the testing / timing / games I played never really felt hitting HR was too easy.

                              That said, you're hitting on analog right? From what I've garnered its slightly more forgiving on the deep ball?

                              At any rate. Crap, I'm intrigued.
                              I've seen your stats, CHD. Don't start over. I'm not.

                              Neither of us lead our respective leagues in homers, and the rest of our stats are very realistic. You'll regret it if you do. Trust me. Your stats are good (so good, actually, that your sliders have become a big trend over in general discussion. Go there sometime. You're all over the place! ).

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                              • coreyhartsdaughter
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 1107

                                #375
                                Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                                Originally posted by heroesandvillians
                                I've seen your stats, CHD. Don't start over. I'm not.

                                Neither of us lead our respective leagues in homers, and the rest of our stats are very realistic. You'll regret it if you do. Trust me. Your stats are good (so good, actually, that your sliders have become a big trend over in general discussion. Go there sometime. You're all over the place! ).
                                Ha ha. Thanks. I'm sorta OCD and a perfectionist. Given how perfect everything else is, and how comfortable I've been with everything - I probably won't start over.

                                Damn you Gainsey!

                                I am going to boot it up and play the first game of the season tonight with Power at 3 for giggles...

                                ...and then proceed to cry. Hard.

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