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  • dowie
    MVP
    • Feb 2005
    • 1986

    #331
    Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

    Originally posted by Bobhead
    I've been playing around with run speed at 1, among other things, and I'm loving it so far. I've actually had to dive for a ball in the outfield, and I see more balls off the wall, as opposed to catches at the wall. That speed burst seems to be greatly reduced the lower the overall fielder speed, and at 1 I feel like I'm not even seeing it at all.

    Granted I haven't been testing it a very long time, so my sample size is quite small (about 3 or 4 games), but I'm definitely happy with it so far.

    Edit: I swear the defense is a lot more realistic this way. I just saw an ESPN-esque behind the back double play by the CPU. There was no suction on either end, the fielder clearly had to reach for the ball and the transition was smooth and life-like. I say this because I believe fielder speed affects body speed as well, not just run speed, ie it affects a fielder's speed in reaching for the ball. But that's just a theory so far.
    Bobhead,

    Can you post here or private message me your current sliders.I like the stats you've posted and it seems I am more on par skill level with you then heroes and villains or Jgaisney (they're better).

    Thanks,
    Dowie
    Cardinals Nation - For The Lou
    Always a Tiger - Bless You Boys
    How can you not be romantic about baseball?

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    • dowie
      MVP
      • Feb 2005
      • 1986

      #332
      Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

      Does anyone know I can create those digital box scores that people are creating on here. They are sweet!!!!

      Dowie
      Cardinals Nation - For The Lou
      Always a Tiger - Bless You Boys
      How can you not be romantic about baseball?

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      • Jgainsey
        I can't feel it
        • Mar 2007
        • 3362

        #333
        Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

        Originally posted by dowie
        Does anyone know I can create those digital box scores that people are creating on here. They are sweet!!!!

        Dowie
        http://dynasties.operationsports.com/index.php
        Now, more than ever

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        • Bobhead
          Pro
          • Mar 2011
          • 4926

          #334
          Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

          How do you navigate to that page? I hate having to have this link saved when I rarely use it, I wish I knew what links to click to get there manually.

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          • Jgainsey
            I can't feel it
            • Mar 2007
            • 3362

            #335
            Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

            Originally posted by Bobhead
            How do you navigate to that page? I hate having to have this link saved when I rarely use it, I wish I knew what links to click to get there manually.
            You can click on the 'Dynasty' tab near the top of the page.. next to the My Arena and Blog tabs.

            Then just click on Dynasty Table Generators, and you'll be there.
            Now, more than ever

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            • Jgainsey
              I can't feel it
              • Mar 2007
              • 3362

              #336
              Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

              Just wanted to post some quick stats from my current franchise. I've been playing this franchise entirely with power at 2 and my current sliders from page one.

              So far, so good..

              6 games played
              2B - 12
              HR - 6

              One thing I'm loving with power at 2 is the amount of HRs that just barely clear the wall. I was seeing so many no doubter type HRs with power at 5, 4, and even 3. I'm still seeing the occasional no doubter(just hit a contact swing no doubter with Brian McCann), but it's refreshing to see realistic HR distances with more consistency.


              EDIT: Now at 9 games played, with 18 2B to 9 HR. Very happy with power at 2 so far.
              Last edited by Jgainsey; 04-22-2011, 05:54 PM.
              Now, more than ever

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              • GoBlue81188
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 1801

                #337
                Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                Been using these for the start of my 2nd season with my Tigers... I'm not sure if i'm sold, I bumped contact to 6 and CPU pitch consistency to 4.

                Through 8 games, i'm dead last in the majors hitting .171. I've been one hit once, two hit twice and haven't had more that 7 hits in any game. I've walked 12 times in the 8 games and in the bottom 1/3 in strikeouts.

                Pitching wise I have been nearly as dominant as the CPU. My team ERA is 3.10 and I'm coming off back to back to back 1 run performances. Really with the exception of one game vs. Texas, I've completely dominated the CPU offense. I've only walked 3 guys, and am 2nd in league in K's.

                I realize its only been 8 games, but something with both offenses just doesn't feel right. I am a FAIRLY decent hitter this year, I check my PCI a lot and I do put a good amount of solid swings on the ball, just not getting anything resembling a rally. I've got 2 HR, 2 2B, and a 3B. Opposing pitchers just pound the strike zone against me, and yet I'm still not hitting. Since this is my 2nd season my line up is even better than the current Tigers line up.
                Twitch: Goblue81188

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                • Jgainsey
                  I can't feel it
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 3362

                  #338
                  Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                  Originally posted by lhsballa11
                  Been using these for the start of my 2nd season with my Tigers... I'm not sure if i'm sold, I bumped contact to 6 and CPU pitch consistency to 4.

                  Through 8 games, i'm dead last in the majors hitting .171. I've been one hit once, two hit twice and haven't had more that 7 hits in any game. I've walked 12 times in the 8 games and in the bottom 1/3 in strikeouts.

                  Pitching wise I have been nearly as dominant as the CPU. My team ERA is 3.10 and I'm coming off back to back to back 1 run performances. Really with the exception of one game vs. Texas, I've completely dominated the CPU offense. I've only walked 3 guys, and am 2nd in league in K's.

                  I realize its only been 8 games, but something with both offenses just doesn't feel right. I am a FAIRLY decent hitter this year, I check my PCI a lot and I do put a good amount of solid swings on the ball, just not getting anything resembling a rally. I've got 2 HR, 2 2B, and a 3B. Opposing pitchers just pound the strike zone against me, and yet I'm still not hitting. Since this is my 2nd season my line up is even better than the current Tigers line up.
                  Hmm.. I 'm not sure what to tell ya man. I've actually had to move the human contact slider down to 4 as of late. I've just been able to sustain too high of an average, and the hits have been coming a little too easily.

                  Aside from human power at 2, my hitting sliders are very close to default. I think the batting average on my current franchise is in the upper .270's through 12 or 13 games. If you can hit on default HOF you should be able to handle these slider tweaks. And even with power at 2, I'm still averaging just over 1 HR a game, with about 2 2B a game as well.

                  .170 isn't out of the realm of possibility over the course of 8 games by any means, but only you can tell if it really feels to hard. Or maybe it's just a cold streak.
                  Now, more than ever

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                  • Qb
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 8797

                    #339
                    Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                    Originally posted by Bobhead
                    I've been playing around with run speed at 1, among other things, and I'm loving it so far. I've actually had to dive for a ball in the outfield, and I see more balls off the wall, as opposed to catches at the wall. That speed burst seems to be greatly reduced the lower the overall fielder speed, and at 1 I feel like I'm not even seeing it at all.

                    Granted I haven't been testing it a very long time, so my sample size is quite small (about 3 or 4 games), but I'm definitely happy with it so far.

                    Edit: I swear the defense is a lot more realistic this way. I just saw an ESPN-esque behind the back double play by the CPU. There was no suction on either end, the fielder clearly had to reach for the ball and the transition was smooth and life-like. I say this because I believe fielder speed affects body speed as well, not just run speed, ie it affects a fielder's speed in reaching for the ball. But that's just a theory so far.
                    I'm with you, Bobhead. I played my last five or so games with fielder speed at zero and really enjoyed the results. There are balls no one is going to get to (HUM or CPU), especially subpar OFs. I saw CPU Braun and Logan Morrison both dive for liners tailing away from them, only to miss the catch completely. I too come up short when appropriate, but can still track 'em down in the gap with Andrew McCutchen.

                    On top of that, it's visually appealing as well. The "speed burst" is minimal and looks more life-like. I have seen some slower animations, so perhaps there is something to your theory regarding body speed. But I haven't witnessed anything to this point to make me want to raise the slider, and this is playing with a poor defensive club in Pittsburgh.

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                    • nomo17k
                      Permanently Banned
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5735

                      #340
                      Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                      Originally posted by Qb
                      I'm with you, Bobhead. I played my last five or so games with fielder speed at zero and really enjoyed the results. There are balls no one is going to get to (HUM or CPU), especially subpar OFs. I saw CPU Braun and Logan Morrison both dive for liners tailing away from them, only to miss the catch completely. I too come up short when appropriate, but can still track 'em down in the gap with Andrew McCutchen.

                      On top of that, it's visually appealing as well. The "speed burst" is minimal and looks more life-like. I have seen some slower animations, so perhaps there is something to your theory regarding body speed. But I haven't witnessed anything to this point to make me want to raise the slider, and this is playing with a poor defensive club in Pittsburgh.
                      I'm also liking what I'm seeing from lowering fielder arms and run speed. The Show to me has always been a tad quicker than real life, and you will see more variety of plays unfolding with slower fielders. Also agree with slower body speed thing. It may be that the slider is slowing down the whole body movement as well. Cannot prove but it certainly feels like that's what's going on.

                      The question for me is how low I should keep them.
                      The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                      • Heroesandvillains
                        MVP
                        • May 2009
                        • 5974

                        #341
                        Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                        Originally posted by nomo17k
                        I'm also liking what I'm seeing from lowering fielder arms and run speed. The Show to me has always been a tad quicker than real life, and you will see more variety of plays unfolding with slower fielders. Also agree with slower body speed thing. It may be that the slider is slowing down the whole body movement as well. Cannot prove but it certainly feels like that's what's going on.

                        The question for me is how low I should keep them.
                        Good question.

                        At this point, I'd lower it in a second if I knew how many clicks it would take to noticeably inflate offense.

                        Oh wait....I NEED more offense.

                        I may go from 4 to 3 later on. I'd like to finally get my average over .235. Last night is a perfect example of my struggles. Game one: 6 runs 12 hits. Game Two: 2 runs 2 hits....Ugh.
                        Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-25-2011, 01:51 PM.

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                        • coreyhartsdaughter
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1107

                          #342
                          Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                          Originally posted by heroesandvillians
                          Good question.

                          At this point, I'd lower it in a second if I knew how many clicks it would take to noticeably inflate offense.

                          Oh wait....I NEED more offense.

                          I may go from 4 to 3 later on. I'd like to finally get my average over .235.
                          I don't believe there is a direct correlation between fielder Speed and Offense.

                          The assumption would be that more outs are falling for hits, but you still have to hit the ball, or make contact. That is unrelated to Fielder Speed.

                          Maybe I don't understand how handicapping the defensive abilities (lower arm strength, lower fielder speed) without bumping their reaction is a solution for the users ability to put the ball in play / find holes.

                          It's a universal slider, you're giving the CPU the same edge...loosing the ability to field a ball behind second base or throw a guy out from the foul line at third doesn't seem like a good trade off for a higher BABIP.

                          My two cents.

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                          • Jgainsey
                            I can't feel it
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 3362

                            #343
                            Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                            I completely agree with you guys. The player movement just looks more natural, and the players actually look like they have some real weight to them.

                            But yeah, how low do we go? At what point are too many balls dropping in the outfield? And what about the infielders.. at what point do they become to slow?
                            Now, more than ever

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                            • Heroesandvillains
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 5974

                              #344
                              Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                              Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
                              I don't believe there is a direct correlation between fielder Speed and Offense.

                              The assumption would be that more outs are falling for hits, but you still have to hit the ball, or make contact. That is unrelated to Fielder Speed.

                              Maybe I don't understand how handicapping the defensive abilities (lower arm strength, lower fielder speed) without bumping their reaction is a solution for the users ability to put the ball in play / find holes.

                              It's a universal slider, you're giving the CPU the same edge...loosing the ability to field a ball behind second base or throw a guy out from the foul line at third doesn't seem like a good trade off for a higher BABIP.

                              My two cents.
                              I can only speak for dropping fielder run speed alone (without reaction), but it most certainly does seem to inflate BABIP.

                              Obviously, it would be tough to prove whether or not sinking line drive X would or would not have fallen at let's say 3, instead of 5. But, my eyes tell me lowering speed increases hits.

                              Sure, I still need to execute, but I'd be executing regardless.

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                              • Heroesandvillains
                                MVP
                                • May 2009
                                • 5974

                                #345
                                Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                                Jgainsey, analog pitching AND hitting HAVE been tweaked.

                                Any thoughts? Impressions?

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