Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

[Lisac]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Looks good! Can't wait.

I was wondering, what was your reasoning for D potential for Mason Martin and Hudson Head on the Pirates?

Thanks for the hard work!

Guys
Remember most Prospects never make it to the Show
2nd - No offense if you dont like someones Potential just change it when the Rosters Release

[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

looks like for the reds you have joe boyle listed twice. once as a SP and once as a RP

Thanks for the heads up. We will try to eliminate those duplicate players the best we can. Sometimes they slip through the cracks

[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Looks good! Can't wait.



I was wondering, what was your reasoning for D potential for Mason Martin and Hudson Head on the Pirates?



Thanks for the hard work!

All teams in the NL Central except the Cubs have not had their top prospects updated yet. SGR just wanted to give y’all a little preview of who is included in the rosters and the MLB players

[AUTiger1]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Because they’ll only regress. Also, D potentials should be reserved for career minor leaguers only. Any player on a top 30 list should be at minimum 73 or 74 (which is roughly what I deem as “MLB Ready” since it corresponds w/ a “role player” tier). Most other guys outside of those lists should be 70-72ish representing guys who likely will never make the majors, but may break through and get a shot in the right situation

Potentials should look like: C > B >> A >> D

But how many top 30 prospects turn into quality MLB players? Heck, most top 100 MLB prospects flame out for one reason or another. That is why having depth in your farm system is so important because there's always quite a few guys who flame out and never reach their full potential.



Just because a player is ranked in a team's top 30 prospects doesn't mean he'll turn into a quality MLB player or that he is even considered a good prospect. Some teams have really poor minor league systems and therefore a guy that is ranked in the 20-30 area for one team wouldn't sniff the top 30 for another team. Those players being rated with a D potential seems extremely legit to me. The last thing you want to end up with in franchise mode is an over abundance of 90 plus overall players which is exactly what it seems some folks are asking for when they say this guy or that guy should be rated as an A or B potential.



Also, unless they've changed it, potentials in franchise mode also have the ability to change. Some guys potential gets better while others decline. At least that is how it used to work in the past.

One thing I wish The Show did that is done on Madden is let you select how many 90 plus rating players you want, ect. ect. In Madden it's divided up among their tiers of X-Factor players, superstars, starts and then the rest of the guys. You get to select how many such players you want in your franchise so that in future years you don't have too many or too few. I think a feature like that with prospect rankings would be good for The Show. You select how many A, B, C, D rated prospects you want to see in your franchise.

[AUTiger1]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

I think the actual issue is that there are some 70 overall potential players who are in the minors, whose potential are less than their overall. Unless they are over 30, it doesn’t make much sense.


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But some players once they reach Single A ball or Double A ball or whatever have already reached their full potential which is why they end up as career minor leaguers. I don't see anything wrong with it for the reasons I explained in my other reply.

[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

But how many top 30 prospects turn into quality MLB players? Heck, most top 100 MLB prospects flame out for one reason or another. That is why having depth in your farm system is so important because there's always quite a few guys who flame out and never reach their full potential.



Just because a player is ranked in a team's top 30 prospects doesn't mean he'll turn into a quality MLB player or that he is even considered a good prospect. Some teams have really poor minor league systems and therefore a guy that is ranked in the 20-30 area for one team wouldn't sniff the top 30 for another team. Those players being rated with a D potential seems extremely legit to me. The last thing you want to end up with in franchise mode is an over abundance of 90 plus overall players which is exactly what it seems some folks are asking for when they say this guy or that guy should be rated as an A or B potential.



Also, unless they've changed it, potentials in franchise mode also have the ability to change. Some guys potential gets better while others decline. At least that is how it used to work in the past.

One thing I wish The Show did that is done on Madden is let you select how many 90 plus rating players you want, ect. ect. In Madden it's divided up among their tiers of X-Factor players, superstars, starts and then the rest of the guys. You get to select how many such players you want in your franchise so that in future years you don't have too many or too few. I think a feature like that with prospect rankings would be good for The Show. You select how many A, B, C, D rated prospects you want to see in your franchise.

A player with D potential has zero chance in-game of making the MLB. A player on a top 30 list is one who has been identified to stand out more than others in an organization. They don’t necessarily have high upside, but they are more legit than others, therefore, they deserve to stand out more in-game

Having players on top 30 lists with a minimum of 74 potential does not cause any problems tbh. Even with potential bumps, they still will likely never break 80. My system is very balanced and fair for true potentials

[DavisAC12]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

But some players once they reach Single A ball or Double A ball or whatever have already reached their full potential which is why they end up as career minor leaguers. I don't see anything wrong with it for the reasons I explained in my other reply.

I see what you’re saying but having a large number of guys who are better than their potential at a young age is concerning to me. Especially with how the game sets it up. In a perfect world finding a player who has broken out, over exceeding expectations and then giving him a chance would be fun but not when there’s such a large number of it.


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[Jay_AB81]

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A player with D potential has zero chance in-game of making the MLB. A player on a top 30 list is one who has been identified to stand out more than others in an organization. They don’t necessarily have high upside, but they are more legit than others, therefore, they deserve to stand out more in-game

Having players on top 30 lists with a minimum of 74 potential does not cause any problems tbh. Even with potential bumps, they still will likely never break 80. My system is very balanced and fair for true potentials

Question if you don't mind, did you guys change faces of players already in the game? Like say Aaron Judge, does that really end up losing the stats, the announcers saying his name, etc.... Just curious.

[gamingfranchise]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

When I think of a 99 overall player I think of the best players of all time. It seems the shows rating system needs an overhaul.

[Lisac]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

When I think of a 99 overall player I think of the best players of all time. It seems the shows rating system needs an overhaul.

Personally I dont believe in 99's for any player in any Sports Game
Every player has something they arent good at

[gamingfranchise]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Personally I dont believe in 99's for any player in any Sports Game

Every player has something they arent good at

I like that better! 100% on point!!

[forme95]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Personally I dont believe in 99's for any player in any Sports Game

I am 100% in agreement with this! Its just crazy the amount of 99's that are in sports rosters. The problem is, these companies are more afraid of these players being butt hurt then they are of having lower more realistic attributes

[CBoller1331]

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I am 100% in agreement with this! Its just crazy the amount of 99's that are in sports rosters. The problem is, these companies are more afraid of these players being butt hurt then they are of having lower more realistic attributes

I think its more so that they have just capped the overall attribute at 99. There are few guys in the game who have over 99 OVR, but the game just shows it as 99 as that is the highest it will go (I believe ViatorLion mentioned that about DeGrom in his video...that his OVR is calculated as like 110 or something crazy)

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[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

I think its more so that they have just capped the overall attribute at 99. There are few guys in the game who have over 99 OVR, but the game just shows it as 99 as that is the highest it will go (I believe ViatorLion mentioned that about DeGrom in his video...that his OVR is calculated as like 110 or something crazy)

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112 exactly. Dude is insane lol


I disagree w/ what has been said tbh. 99's should be extremely rare, but some guys absolutely deserve it.


Peak Trout. Peak DeGrom. Vlad Jr. in a couple years. Arguably Witt, Franco, and J Rod in their futures. These guys are elite, generational talents and deserve that distinction

[AUTiger1]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

A player with D potential has zero chance in-game of making the MLB. A player on a top 30 list is one who has been identified to stand out more than others in an organization. They don’t necessarily have high upside, but they are more legit than others, therefore, they deserve to stand out more in-game

Having players on top 30 lists with a minimum of 74 potential does not cause any problems tbh. Even with potential bumps, they still will likely never break 80. My system is very balanced and fair for true potentials

Ok, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Think you would do well if you went back the last few years and looked at each team's top 30 list and look at some of the names on the list and how their careers ended up. Most of them never advanced passed Double-A ball and there's a reason for that.