Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

[AUTiger1]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

When I think of a 99 overall player I think of the best players of all time. It seems the shows rating system needs an overhaul.

I absolutely agree. 99 ratings should only be given out to the best of the best in the history of baseball. Mike Trout I have no problem with being a 99 because he truly is one of the all-time greatest players in MLB history.

Ronald Acuna, as a Braves fan, tied with Austin Riley and Max Fried, for my favorite player on the team, shouldn't be a 99. His history and track record isn't long enough to earn a 99 overall rating.

[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Ok, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Think you would do well if you went back the last few years and looked at each team's top 30 list and look at some of the names on the list and how their careers ended up. Most of them never advanced passed Double-A ball and there's a reason for that.

I completely understand that 1/2 to 2/3 of these top 30 lists never make it to the majors, let alone make an impact.

The problem with your viewpoint is that, we have zero clue which of the 30 is going to dominate, and which are gonna flame out. It’s all just the best guess with the information we have at the time. So we reflect that in game and let things on out in game how they pan out.

For reference, the 2018 Cubs top prospects list had:

2-4) Aramis Ademan, Oscar De La Cruz, and Jose Albertos

Even those ranked at the top aren’t guaranteed to amount to literally anything

[ViatorLion10]

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I absolutely agree. 99 ratings should only be given out to the best of the best in the history of baseball. Mike Trout I have no problem with being a 99 because he truly is one of the all-time greatest players in MLB history.

Ronald Acuna, as a Braves fan, tied with Austin Riley and Max Fried, for my favorite player on the team, shouldn't be a 99. His history and track record isn't long enough to earn a 99 overall rating.

One issue with this discussion is that overalls are calculated in a poor way by the game. You don’t even have to get near max on attributes in order to achieve a 99. Best example I have for that is Gerrit Cole in my roster. He’s an excellent pitcher and that is reflected in his attribute ratings, however, they are not full maxed out, and yet he still qualifies as a 99 overall by the game’s calculations

The other issue is that certain positions are exceptionally overrated. C, 2B, and LF are the biggest culprits. You can literally have like an 83 OVR 2B who is a 75 OVR SS. That’s not how a system should work

[kamackeris76]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Will this roster help with ai bullpen management? Saw the following post on another thread which apparently will help

While not perfect, I have a method I use that helps with simmed and cpu management:

Closer-CP

SU-top RP

LRP1-2nd RP (make sure stamina is under 40)

LRP2-3rd RP (make sure stamina is under 40)

MRP1-4th RP

MRP2-5th RP

MRP3-6th RP

MRP4-my long reliever

Using this method, the cpu brings in the top RP in those one run and tie games and with the lower stamina generally pull them after 1-2 innings. I have seen the RP in those slots end the season with about 80 innings which may still high but not crazy.



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[slugga77]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Assuming a mid/end of week drop this week looking unlikely at this point ?

[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Assuming a mid/end of week drop this week looking unlikely at this point ?

No we’re still on track as of now. Thinking about doing a live drop on YouTube Friday night if everything works out. Y’all interested in that?

[ViatorLion10]

Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Y’all

The Discord. Is. Live!

Join up and let’s talk everything baseball, The Show, rosters, and MLB. I’ll be dropping some content over there as the week progresses, so come on over and check it out!

https://discord.gg/6Baz2hwhpS

[bostonboy_003]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

No we’re still on track as of now. Thinking about doing a live drop on YouTube Friday night if everything works out. Y’all interested in that?

What about Thursday if possible so we can spend the weekend playing [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Kidding kidding, truly appreciate all you’re doing and would will be there either way!!


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[messman]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

I'm with Bostonboy!!! Let's get this goin'!!!

[AUTiger1]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

One issue with this discussion is that overalls are calculated in a poor way by the game. You don’t even have to get near max on attributes in order to achieve a 99. Best example I have for that is Gerrit Cole in my roster. He’s an excellent pitcher and that is reflected in his attribute ratings, however, they are not full maxed out, and yet he still qualifies as a 99 overall by the game’s calculations

The other issue is that certain positions are exceptionally overrated. C, 2B, and LF are the biggest culprits. You can literally have like an 83 OVR 2B who is a 75 OVR SS. That’s not how a system should work

I completely agree. The entire ratings system needs to be overhauled. I've noticed that fielding and speed have way too much of an impact on overall rating. You can give a player 40s and 50s hitting ratings but if they've got 80s ratings for fielding and speed they're going to be rated in the high 70s or low 80s. It's truly asinine.

[AUTiger1]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

I completely understand that 1/2 to 2/3 of these top 30 lists never make it to the majors, let alone make an impact.

The problem with your viewpoint is that, we have zero clue which of the 30 is going to dominate, and which are gonna flame out. It’s all just the best guess with the information we have at the time. So we reflect that in game and let things on out in game how they pan out.

For reference, the 2018 Cubs top prospects list had:

2-4) Aramis Ademan, Oscar De La Cruz, and Jose Albertos

Even those ranked at the top aren’t guaranteed to amount to literally anything

You're right. We don't know, so what harm is there to have some D rated prospects in the game? Why do they have to be at minimum a C? That is where my biggest confusion comes from. Realistically most players should C or D potentials.

[AUTiger1]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

Will this roster help with ai bullpen management? Saw the following post on another thread which apparently will help

While not perfect, I have a method I use that helps with simmed and cpu management:

Closer-CP

SU-top RP

LRP1-2nd RP (make sure stamina is under 40)

LRP2-3rd RP (make sure stamina is under 40)

MRP1-4th RP

MRP2-5th RP

MRP3-6th RP

MRP4-my long reliever

Using this method, the cpu brings in the top RP in those one run and tie games and with the lower stamina generally pull them after 1-2 innings. I have seen the RP in those slots end the season with about 80 innings which may still high but not crazy.



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The biggest issue with this is that you've got to play with 30-team control on and I don't wanna do that. SDS should just fix the AI bullpen management.

[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

What about Thursday if possible so we can spend the weekend playing [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Kidding kidding, truly appreciate all you’re doing and would will be there either way!!


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Bro you got a magic wand I could borrow? [emoji23]

Should be able to spend your weekends playing regardless. Really gonna try to sprint to the finish line the best we can. The end is right there

[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

I completely agree. The entire ratings system needs to be overhauled. I've noticed that fielding and speed have way too much of an impact on overall rating. You can give a player 40s and 50s hitting ratings but if they've got 80s ratings for fielding and speed they're going to be rated in the high 70s or low 80s. It's truly asinine.

Eh I disagree to a point. Defense is pretty important in the game. It’s why guys like Andrelton Simmons have made long careers despite not being great hitters

The main issue is how those fielding grades are weighted by position

[ViatorLion10]

Re: Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

You're right. We don't know, so what harm is there to have some D rated prospects in the game? Why do they have to be at minimum a C? That is where my biggest confusion comes from. Realistically most players should C or D potentials.

Because the way my tiers are set up? <70 is the equivalent of a AAA player. The purpose of calling a player a top prospect is that they are better than career AAA players

For reference, a player who is completely league average across all metrics will be a 76 overall. Rating potentials of top 30 prospects at a minimum of 74 still puts them below that average MLB player level