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  • FenwayMac
    Pro
    • Mar 2009
    • 825

    #91
    Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

    Originally posted by CanYouRead
    They work well. Had a variety of hits along with homeruns when I tested them with the Orioles.
    Nice! Thank you for your help.

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    • CanYouRead
      Rookie
      • Dec 2015
      • 164

      #92
      Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

      Originally posted by FenwayMac
      Nice! Thank you for your help.
      No problem man. Thanks for the sliders!

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      • FenwayMac
        Pro
        • Mar 2009
        • 825

        #93
        Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

        Hey all,

        I don’t have any major numbers to throw at you at the moment, but just wanted to give you my first impressions of bumping up the contact slider for the CPU to 7 from 6. I am four games in to the experiment and I can honestly say it makes for some exciting baseball! I have listed a few thoughts below.

        1) Every pitch matters – You really have to think about what type of pitch to throw, where you want to throw it, and you better be sure to stick the landing on the white line or you may pay dearly. The benefits of this is the nice rush of adrenaline you get when you strike out a batter or end the inning. Another benefit of this is I am walking a lot more batters simply because I am forced to either make a great pitch or miss outside rather than throw a meatball. Walks are up!

        2) More jams to work out of – The CPU is able to create more rallies and I find I really need to focus to make sure to get out of the inning with little or no damage. Before the slider adjustment, I never really felt the panic of having runners on base. More pressure make the right pitches now to get out of trouble.

        3) Using the bullpen more – The result of being more careful, and pitching around more batters is an increasingly tired starting pitcher. I find that I may run the pitch count up early on some games and need some relievers to carry me through. Before I felt quite comfortable always getting 7+ from by starters. Not now.

        4) Drama Innings 1-9 – you can expect at some point the CPU is going to string together some hits, and it often happens late in game, so having the right pitcher in there and playing smart definitely cranks up as the game goes along.

        5) No Cheese – When CPU is hitting the ball, I pay close attention to where and how they made contact. There does not appear to be any diving way out of the zone to smack a triple cheese going on. At least thus far it feels pretty legit.


        I would say this. Buffing the CPU contact may not be for everybody, BUT if you are like me and you feel just a bit overqualified for all-star pitching, but just a bit under-qualified for Hall of Fame pitching, this might be a happy medium for you to try.

        One more side-note. I am seeing more triples from the CPU than before. It could just be the teams I am playing and a blip, or it could be a trend. I will stay the course, keep an eye on it, and report back.

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        • thawkprime 21
          Rookie
          • Jul 2009
          • 275

          #94
          Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

          Originally posted by CanYouRead
          No problem man. Thanks for the sliders!
          Thank you both for the help

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          • FenwayMac
            Pro
            • Mar 2009
            • 825

            #95
            Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

            Well, while the HUM Hitting sliders continue to deliver quite nicely, there continues to be a bit of a struggle dialing in the CPU hitting sliders since deciding that the CPU is a bit anemic and needs a boost. I decided to boost up the CPU contact to 7 from 6.

            There is good and bad.

            After seven games, the computer is batting .265 against me, which is a vast improvement from the mid-220's from before increasing the CPU hitting contact to seven. The computer is averaging about 2-3 more hits a game and is also scoring a few more runs thanks to some rallies.

            The bad news is that the triples are occurring at nearly 10% of at bats! To put this in perspective, the CPU has already hit half of the seasons triples from the first 70 games...in the last seven games. Singles are around 64% (good), doubles around 17% (low), and home runs are at 9% (low).

            So, while getting the batting averages up has occurred, the balance is obviously skewed. A lot of those triples are hard hit balls that simple hit the gap so fast that my fielders cannot catch up to them until they hit the wall. As a result, the runner continues to motor around the bases.

            I am looking for some feedback from the forum on this. What would be the logical step to balance this out? I feel that keeping CPU contact at 7 is the right move, but I am torn between lowering CPU power to 4, or lowering CPU solid hits back down to 3.

            Thoughts?

            EDIT- after reading a few slider detailed descriptions, I think that adding contact maybe a bit too much juice for the CPU. I think I will drop CPU contact back down And try to bolster Power instead. We'll see if it has the intended effect of higher BA and extra base hits...just more to a milder effect. We'll see.
            Last edited by FenwayMac; 07-02-2016, 02:30 AM.

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            • Hilman11
              Champ
              • Sep 2011
              • 148

              #96
              Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

              Great research. Going to try out the HUM offensive sliders.

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              • Hilman11
                Champ
                • Sep 2011
                • 148

                #97
                Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                Played one -
                Reds 10 11 1
                Phillies 9 8 2

                Of my 11 hits I had 2 doubles and 1 homerun. I walked twice and was struck out 5 times.

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                • FenwayMac
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 825

                  #98
                  Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                  Originally posted by Hilman11
                  Played one -
                  Reds 10 11 1
                  Phillies 9 8 2

                  Of my 11 hits I had 2 doubles and 1 homerun. I walked twice and was struck out 5 times.
                  From those run totals you must have had a good variety of scoring methods, which is great! Was the CPU juiced on the long ball or scoring with variety as well?

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                  • FenwayMac
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 825

                    #99
                    Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                    After a few days away staring at the campfire, I am rethinking my CPU hitting changes a bit. While I definitely would like the computer to be more potent, the bump to 7 contact severely skewed the hit type percentages that were lining up nicely with the bump to solid hits, so...

                    I have dropped the CPU contact contact back down to 6 and am increasing the CPU solid hits to 5. I am thinking (and hoping) that the solid hits slider is the least touchy of the sliders and can hopeful keep the variety realistic while upping the BA a tad for the computer. I will let you know either way!

                    After one game:

                    TB - 9 hits (.258 BA), 6, singles, 1 double, 2 HR

                    Bos - 11 hits (.314 BA) 7 singles, 1 double, 1 triple, 1 HR

                    Updating original post as well. Thank you for everybody contributing your thoughts and results on these, hope you are getting good numbers!

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                    • FenwayMac
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 825

                      #100
                      Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                      Apples to Apples - finally caught up with the Red Sox and MLB and thought it to be a good time to update on the hitting percentages.

                      Focusing solely on the HUM hitting sliders. Even as I continue to dork around with the CPU sliders, the main purpose is to deliver hitting and scoring variety with the HUM sliders. Here is where I stand at mid-season

                      Record - 46-37 (if the real Red Sox win tonight, they will be...46-37)

                      BA: .266
                      SLG: .443
                      ERA: 3.40

                      My Franchise Percentages

                      1B- 64.2%
                      2B- 19.5%
                      3B- 2.2%
                      HR- 14.1%

                      Actual MLB Average

                      1B- 65.2%
                      2B- 19.5%
                      3B- 2.1%
                      HR- 13.2%

                      Actual MLB Red Sox

                      1B- 62.2%
                      2B- 24.1%
                      3B- 2.2%
                      HR-11.5%


                      Summary

                      It is difficult to compare my Franchise Red Sox to the actual Red Sox. They are doubles hittin' fools this season (in fact Brock Holt just hit another as I type this), and as a result their singles and HR numbers are slightly lower than my team as well as MLB average.

                      Now, If I was to compare my numbers to MLB, the spread is very, very close. if fact you could essentially take one percent off of my home runs, and add it to singles and you would have a virtual match.

                      Triples are essentially the same across all three groups, so that is nice to see. My franchise Sox are living off of Papi power right now. he has 31 home runs, but has been by no means a one-trick pony. He has drawn a ton of walks, hit his share of singles through the shift, and doubled in a few runs to boot. And let's not forget about that steal of home base! It will be interesting to play another season (and I WILL play another season) without Ortiz to see how the team picks up the slack for his numbers.

                      Really, really happy with the HUM hitting sliders. Glad I started over and ran the experiment. I wish the CPU sliders were as straight-forward, but so far there seems to be so many more factors that play into creating a competitive, but realistic opponent. I'll keep grinding!

                      Let me know if there is any specific stats that you would like to see!
                      Last edited by FenwayMac; 07-05-2016, 09:18 PM.

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                      • Scott
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 20032

                        #101
                        Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                        Any changes if I were to use these on Veteran+?

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                        • FenwayMac
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 825

                          #102
                          Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                          Originally posted by Scott
                          Any changes if I were to use these on Veteran+?

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                          I have calibrated these based on only playing All Star, so I would not know for sure. I would imagine that Veteran+ is close enough to All Star that the effect may not be TOO off, but you will just have to play some games to find out. If you are just smoking everything I would probably start with dropping contact a tick, but I would be curious to hear your results with these!

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                          • Hilman11
                            Champ
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 148

                            #103
                            Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                            Originally posted by FenwayMac
                            From those run totals you must have had a good variety of scoring methods, which is great! Was the CPU juiced on the long ball or scoring with variety as well?
                            For CPU I use Armor's HOF pitching set. There is very good scoring variety as Phillies had 1 homerun and 1 double in the game above. The set is very challenging, but very rewarding when you pitch well. You really have to "pitch". Highly recommend it.

                            I will get a few more games in with your HUM hitting mix and report back. All your data is looks good. My next game is against King Felix so I'm not expecting too much offense from me...
                            Last edited by Hilman11; 07-06-2016, 10:16 AM.

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                            • FenwayMac
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 825

                              #104
                              Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                              Originally posted by Hilman11
                              For CPU I use Armor's HOF pitching set. There is very good scoring variety as Phillies had 1 homerun and 1 double in the game above. The set is very challenging, but very rewarding when you pitch well. You really have to "pitch". Highly recommend it.

                              I will get a few more games in with your HUM hitting mix and report back. All your data is looks good. My next game is against King Felix so I'm not expecting too much offense from me...
                              Look forward to the results from hitting! Felix is definitely tricky.

                              Thanks for the thoughts on pitching. The more I fiddle with the CPU sliders the more realize that results are more based on how well you pitch. Hitting is much easier to dial in because you essentially try to square up your PCI the best you can and then push X. Pitching results depend on pitch location, type, velocity...

                              I am currently trying some tinkering to CPU hitting sliders by fast-forwarding half innings so I am just pitching. Helps to get through more games quickly to analyze. I am also using my old franchise so all pitchers and hitters will have fatigue factored in. I think I may be on to something with CPU contact 7, power 5, timing 5 and solid hits 3 but I still want to play several more before knowing for sure.

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                              • Hilman11
                                Champ
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 148

                                #105
                                Re: FenwayMac Variety Hitting and Scoring Sliders

                                Well, not much to report. Felix was "as advertised". I had one hit off him in his 8 innings of work. Lost the game 3-0.

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