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  • JoshC1977
    All Star
    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #391
    Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

    Originally posted by johnpreyes
    Hi JoshC1977 - So I'm using your slider set with CPU Contact at 6, Solid Hits at 4 but with HUM Pitch Control at 4. The reason for this is I'm using Meter pitching and I guess I'm good at timing it. However, the CPU offense still seems a little punchless to me. In the first 5 games of my NYY franchise with Severino, Paxton, Tanaka, Happ and German pitching - I've only allowed 2 runs with 3 shutouts. Do you recommend raising the CPU Contact to 7?
    It's why I would never recommend anyone use analog or meter on this set. If you feel like you have to use meter, I would suggest using the OP setup (exactly as written) on HOF or Legend to counteract the boost the user gets by using meter..
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    • johnpreyes
      Rookie
      • May 2010
      • 189

      #392
      Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

      Originally posted by JoshC1977
      It's why I would never recommend anyone use analog or meter on this set. If you feel like you have to use meter, I would suggest using the OP setup (exactly as written) on HOF or Legend to counteract the boost the user gets by using meter..
      Thanks for the response. Actually reducing my Pitch Control to 4 has made me throw more than a few mistake pitches. But even then, the AI seems content on taking these mistake pitches a lot.

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      • JoshC1977
        All Star
        • Dec 2010
        • 11564

        #393
        Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

        Originally posted by johnpreyes
        Thanks for the response. Actually reducing my Pitch Control to 4 has made me throw more than a few mistake pitches. But even then, the AI seems content on taking these mistake pitches a lot.
        That's the reason why lower control doesn't work as well ....even at 5, it's problematic. The CPU's approach is much better with both values at 6.
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        • JoshC1977
          All Star
          • Dec 2010
          • 11564

          #394
          Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

          Originally posted by Velocityy
          The only thing I'm noticing after about a month of games is some really wonky fielding decisions.

          I play on auto fielding, and sometimes my OF's (and the CPU's) will just take awful routes to really routine balls, causing triples or even inside the park home runs. They often have a weird animation where they tumble to the ground after reaching out for it.

          Thinking this might be Fielder Reaction related, but not 100% sure.
          Tyler said a lot of the things I would say. I'll throw in my perspective:

          1. Ratings matter a TON. Basically, if you have a guy with a fielding rating below 70, you're playing with fire. They will make mistakes on routine balls (as in real life). Guys below 60 can be brutal at times (depending on the position).

          2. I've personally waffled with the two fielding sliders and I'm strongly considering going back to default for my own personal uses. Now, I'll leave the OP alone but as I state in the OP, default really does play well. I will say this, I do think the fielder speed/reaction sliders should be set to the same value.
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          • Dbaja22
            MVP
            • Nov 2016
            • 1434

            #395
            Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

            What's the more challenging way to hit , is it as its posted in the settings with Hitting interface directional and input type buttons , or is pure analog with stride and swing more of a challenge

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            • johnpreyes
              Rookie
              • May 2010
              • 189

              #396
              Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

              Originally posted by JoshC1977
              That's the reason why lower control doesn't work as well ....even at 5, it's problematic. The CPU's approach is much better with both values at 6.
              Are you referring to the Pitch Control slider at 6 improving the CPU's approach? Would raising the CPU Contact to 7 essentially accomplish the same thing?

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              • Velocityy
                Rookie
                • Sep 2015
                • 485

                #397
                Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                Tyler said a lot of the things I would say. I'll throw in my perspective:

                1. Ratings matter a TON. Basically, if you have a guy with a fielding rating below 70, you're playing with fire. They will make mistakes on routine balls (as in real life). Guys below 60 can be brutal at times (depending on the position).

                2. I've personally waffled with the two fielding sliders and I'm strongly considering going back to default for my own personal uses. Now, I'll leave the OP alone but as I state in the OP, default really does play well. I will say this, I do think the fielder speed/reaction sliders should be set to the same value.
                Quoting this one, but thanks to Tyler as well.

                The one I'm seeing it the most with is Charlie Blackmon, who I just checked has a fielding rating just above 50. That seems a bit harsh considering he is an every day outfielder, but I get that as he's gotten older he's gotten worse than he used to be.

                I might knock it back up to default on those and test it out, but do like some of the side effects being more singles and doubles on balls that SHOULD be. On default I noticed a ton of those would get caught even by an average fielder.
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                • tyler28
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1719

                  #398
                  Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                  I just checked and i am using OP settings at 4. I havent seen an issue, but i do make sure i have good fielders out there.


                  I do notice fielding ratings are harsh on a lot of everyday players.





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                  • JoshC1977
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 11564

                    #399
                    Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                    Originally posted by johnpreyes
                    Are you referring to the Pitch Control slider at 6 improving the CPU's approach? Would raising the CPU Contact to 7 essentially accomplish the same thing?
                    No, it wouldn't. The pitch control and contact need to be the same value. 5/5 can work, but it is a 'dumber' way of playing. 6/6 is going to be a 'smarter' version. Going higher than that will still start skewing things too far away from default and then you have to deal with slider RNG, where those sliders dominate the outcomes more than the player ratings.

                    Originally posted by Velocityy
                    Quoting this one, but thanks to Tyler as well.

                    The one I'm seeing it the most with is Charlie Blackmon, who I just checked has a fielding rating just above 50. That seems a bit harsh considering he is an every day outfielder, but I get that as he's gotten older he's gotten worse than he used to be.

                    I might knock it back up to default on those and test it out, but do like some of the side effects being more singles and doubles on balls that SHOULD be. On default I noticed a ton of those would get caught even by an average fielder.
                    Blackmon has two positions he is capable of playing in-game; PH and DH. He is a downright awful defensive outfielder in-game with those ratings. That isn't a slider issue....

                    This is how I would break down fielding ratings (this is a very rough guideline I use - basically using something along the line of DDs common/bronze/silver/gold/diamond method):
                    >90: superb defender
                    80-90: very good
                    70-80: solid, but not great
                    60-70: meh
                    <60: he better have an amazing bat or be a DH.

                    So all those things you're seeing, you should be seeing from him based on those ratings....
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                    • Velocityy
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 485

                      #400
                      Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                      Originally posted by JoshC1977
                      Blackmon has two positions he is capable of playing in-game; PH and DH. He is a downright awful defensive outfielder in-game with those ratings. That isn't a slider issue....

                      This is how I would break down fielding ratings (this is a very rough guideline I use - basically using something along the line of DDs common/bronze/silver/gold/diamond method):
                      >90: superb defender
                      80-90: very good
                      70-80: solid, but not great
                      60-70: meh
                      <60: he better have an amazing bat or be a DH.

                      So all those things you're seeing, you should be seeing from him based on those ratings....
                      Well he DOES have an amazing bat, . Maybe I just have to deal. Looking at the fielding ratings for my entire team makes me very sad. Daniel Murphy at 1st is a 43. 43!!!!

                      No real life baseball player is THAT bad at fielding.
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                      Yankees // Broncos // Blazers // Syracuse // Devils // Southampton // Timbers

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                      • No.27
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2015
                        • 543

                        #401
                        Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                        Originally posted by JoshC1977
                        Tyler said a lot of the things I would say. I'll throw in my perspective:

                        1. Ratings matter a TON. Basically, if you have a guy with a fielding rating below 70, you're playing with fire. They will make mistakes on routine balls (as in real life). Guys below 60 can be brutal at times (depending on the position).

                        2. I've personally waffled with the two fielding sliders and I'm strongly considering going back to default for my own personal uses. Now, I'll leave the OP alone but as I state in the OP, default really does play well. I will say this, I do think the fielder speed/reaction sliders should be set to the same value.
                        After advocating early days a drop to 4. Back to Default makes a lot of sense now with Contact at 6. Especially as I’m using the Red Sox 😀

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                        • JoshC1977
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 11564

                          #402
                          Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                          Truthfully, I think a lot of people overreact a bit about the fielder speed. I've played 70-80ish games with the current fielding sliders. Honestly, as I've switched back to default, I just don't see a marked difference in terms of outcomes. Is there going to be one long-term?. Yes, of course there will be. But I think a lot of folks see a great defensive play at default, assume the speed is too fast, and change it; when in many cases, that great defensive play still would have happened at 4. But, they switch it to 4 anyways, see a ball that the OF doesn't get to, and use that outcome to 'validate' the change (when in reality, the OF probably would not have gotten to it at default either - it would've just been a tad closer). Certainly people who use extreme setups (i.e. more than one-click from default) will see greater differences, but I've seen more than enough variety at default.

                          The fielder reaction slider definitely has a lot of effects (pretty sure it affects tag speeds and how quickly the defenders get rid of the ball on top of the obvious affect on a defender's first step)....it's almost like a 'fielder animation speed' slider. (I interestingly saw a rare user OF assist last night with a quickly thrown ball to 2B - it was super close...and no way it would have been an out at 4. I'll be interested in seeing if it is a 'one-off' or not....)

                          I've made the change back to default for fielder run speed and fielder reaction, reflecting my mindset of, "If changing a slider doesn't have a definitive positive effect, you're better off with it at default." I'm updating the OP to reflect what I am using (but with the caveat that 4 has been tested).
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                          • Dbaja22
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 1434

                            #403
                            Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                            I'm having some issues , I'm using the settings and sliders as posted but I was using analog to swing . In my last 5 games I only managed to score 2 runs with analog , I get on average around 6-10 hits a game with analog . Today I switched to hitting controls with button as posted here and 1st game against the Red Sox I won 10-1 and got 18 hits. With analog I can get on base but struggled to score , with the buttons I just smoked every pitch . I don't know what to stick with , any advice suggestions

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                            • JoshC1977
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 11564

                              #404
                              Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                              Originally posted by Dbaja22
                              I'm having some issues , I'm using the settings and sliders as posted but I was using analog to swing . In my last 5 games I only managed to score 2 runs with analog , I get on average around 6-10 hits a game with analog . Today I switched to hitting controls with button as posted here and 1st game against the Red Sox I won 10-1 and got 18 hits. With analog I can get on base but struggled to score , with the buttons I just smoked every pitch . I don't know what to stick with , any advice suggestions

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                              • Dbaja22
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 1434

                                #405
                                Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                                I've left that on Directional , just finished my 2nd game with button as swing and had 7 hits with 0 runs scored . Lost the game 5-0 . I'm just struggling to score runs , I'm only 13 games in so maybe it will get better. I just really like the analog for stride and swing , just feels more authentic for me .

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