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[Burgess]

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I simply have not seen this issue.

At what point during their warmup do you bring the pitcher for their 8 pitches? I have played with warmup pitchers off up until now but am intrigued by this and think I might try it.

[vertman]

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At what point during their warmup do you bring the pitcher for their 8 pitches? I have played with warmup pitchers off up until now but am intrigued by this and think I might try it.

When you bring them in from the bullpen you get your chance to throw the 8 warmup pitches .


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[jcar0725]

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I'm curious about how you guys pitch. I seem to have decent success only aiming pitches that i WANT to have OUT of the zone. When I am trying to throw a strike, if I aim it, I don't have success, if I just throw it without aiming, I have better success......hopefully I am making sense with this question.

Like, when I'm trying to be precise, I get rocked. If I just throw and don't aim, I have better success....then again maybe it depends on the pitcher.

[Gagnon39]

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I'm curious about how you guys pitch. I seem to have decent success only aiming pitches that i WANT to have OUT of the zone. When I am trying to throw a strike, if I aim it, I don't have success, if I just throw it without aiming, I have better success......hopefully I am making sense with this question.

Like, when I'm trying to be precise, I get rocked. If I just throw and don't aim, I have better success....then again maybe it depends on the pitcher.

A lot of times I find that I don't throw balls far enough out of the zone when trying to get a hitter to swing and miss at strike three. When I do (sometimes by accident) I'm often surprised at just how far the CPU will swing sometimes at balls out of the zone.

[jcar0725]

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A lot of times I find that I don't throw balls far enough out of the zone when trying to get a hitter to swing and miss at strike three. When I do (sometimes by accident) I'm often surprised at just how far the CPU will swing sometimes at balls out of the zone.

Yeah Iv'e seen that happen too. Im saying even early in the count, if I'm trying to pain corners I get lit up. Whereas, if I just select curveball and let it go without aiming, I have more success..

[Armor and Sword]

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At what point during their warmup do you bring the pitcher for their 8 pitches? I have played with warmup pitchers off up until now but am intrigued by this and think I might try it.

- Once they are half to 3/4 of the way warm in the pen I put them in ready and waiting. When I bring them in sometimes they are almost fully warm...even if they are fully warm you can use all 8 warm up pitches and they will be fine.....unless you have used them on back to back nights. If so.....I do not advise a third consecutive night of usage. You are begging for trouble. In the post season bullpen management is critical.

I'm curious about how you guys pitch. I seem to have decent success only aiming pitches that i WANT to have OUT of the zone. When I am trying to throw a strike, if I aim it, I don't have success, if I just throw it without aiming, I have better success......hopefully I am making sense with this question.

Like, when I'm trying to be precise, I get rocked. If I just throw and don't aim, I have better success....then again maybe it depends on the pitcher.

- Early in the count I am pounding the zone to get ahead. Especially with my better pitchers. Then we paint. Sometimes I get hammered for challenging guys....that’s baseball. Throw strikes to get ahead....throw pitches out of the zone to get hitters out. I can’t stand when a Random Dice Result get’s me missing over the heart of the plate on 0-2, 1-2.....and they blast a ball on me.....oh my my skin curls. But again.....that’s baseball. And thats why I love Classic pitching. It gives that random dice result like playing table top Strato-Matic or Statis Pro Baseball. Sometimes pitchers miss their spots and MLB hitters can make you pay dearly for that. Also having a great pulse on the kind of stuff your pitcher has that night is key to success. Know early what pitches he has working good or not. That can dictate your pitch sequencing far better. Awareness is key.


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[jcar0725]

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- Once they are half to 3/4 of the way warm in the pen I put them in ready and waiting. When I bring them in sometimes they are almost fully warm...even if they are fully warm you can use all 8 warm up pitches and they will be fine.....unless you have used them on back to back nights. If so.....I do not advise a third consecutive night of usage. You are begging for trouble. In the post season bullpen management is critical.

- Early in the count I am pounding the zone to get ahead. Especially with my better pitchers. Then we paint. Sometimes I get hammered for challenging guys....that’s baseball. Throw strikes to get ahead....throw pitches out of the zone to get hitters out. I can’t stand when a Random Dice Result get’s me missing over the heart of the plate on 0-2, 1-2.....and they blast a ball on me.....oh my my skin curls. But again.....that’s baseball. And thats why I love Classic pitching. It gives that random dice result like playing table top Strato-Matic or Statis Pro Baseball. Sometimes pitchers miss their spots and MLB hitters can make you pay dearly for that. Also having a great pulse on the kind of stuff your pitcher has that night is key to success. Know early what pitches he has working good or not. That can dictate your pitch sequencing far better. Awareness is key.


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Yeah okay, so we pitch the same way it looks like.

[jcar0725]

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- Once they are half to 3/4 of the way warm in the pen I put them in ready and waiting. When I bring them in sometimes they are almost fully warm...even if they are fully warm you can use all 8 warm up pitches and they will be fine.....unless you have used them on back to back nights. If so.....I do not advise a third consecutive night of usage. You are begging for trouble. In the post season bullpen management is critical.

- Early in the count I am pounding the zone to get ahead. Especially with my better pitchers. Then we paint. Sometimes I get hammered for challenging guys....that’s baseball. Throw strikes to get ahead....throw pitches out of the zone to get hitters out. I can’t stand when a Random Dice Result get’s me missing over the heart of the plate on 0-2, 1-2.....and they blast a ball on me.....oh my my skin curls. But again.....that’s baseball. And thats why I love Classic pitching. It gives that random dice result like playing table top Strato-Matic or Statis Pro Baseball. Sometimes pitchers miss their spots and MLB hitters can make you pay dearly for that. Also having a great pulse on the kind of stuff your pitcher has that night is key to success. Know early what pitches he has working good or not. That can dictate your pitch sequencing far better. Awareness is key.


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I just noticed that I am sometimes so afraid to throw anything in the zone that I am aiming for the corners a lot, and when I do that, I get rocked. I understand its different when I'm ahead in the count though. Then I have to aim out of the zone to try to get them to go fishin....

[Hammerhunker]

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I have been thinking a lot about part of my '20 experience, adopting the HOF levels for pitching and hitting. Unlike A&S, my level promotion was not due to skills, but looking for a change. Comparing playing on AS for years and years to playing a couple of dozen games on HOF, I have to say that the experience is so refreshingly exhilarating, especially pitching.

I'd chosen the Orioles as my franchise team which isn't exactly loaded with highly rated pitching talent. The combination of HOF and an Orioles pitcher makes any pitch in the zone a disaster, so to get ahead you have to live on the black at best, and if ahead in the count live off the black. You have to think like a pitcher that knows they don't have the good stuff to overcome spotty command. Even on that poorly rated staff, there are guys that throw hard but have a hard time with command and HOF attends to that.

I wish I could be as unforgiving to pitchers when I'm hitting, which is a different story and not exhilarating at all.

[Burgess]

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- Once they are half to 3/4 of the way warm in the pen I put them in ready and waiting. When I bring them in sometimes they are almost fully warm...even if they are fully warm you can use all 8 warm up pitches and they will be fine.....unless you have used them on back to back nights. If so.....I do not advise a third consecutive night of usage. You are begging for trouble. In the post season bullpen management is critical.

- Early in the count I am pounding the zone to get ahead. Especially with my better pitchers. Then we paint. Sometimes I get hammered for challenging guys....that’s baseball. Throw strikes to get ahead....throw pitches out of the zone to get hitters out. I can’t stand when a Random Dice Result get’s me missing over the heart of the plate on 0-2, 1-2.....and they blast a ball on me.....oh my my skin curls. But again.....that’s baseball. And thats why I love Classic pitching. It gives that random dice result like playing table top Strato-Matic or Statis Pro Baseball. Sometimes pitchers miss their spots and MLB hitters can make you pay dearly for that. Also having a great pulse on the kind of stuff your pitcher has that night is key to success. Know early what pitches he has working good or not. That can dictate your pitch sequencing far better. Awareness is key.


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Just one more question on this Armour. I listen to the catcher’s pitch call 100% of the time and the only time I change the location he asks for is when I think a pitch should be aimed further out of the strike zone than what he calls for. I just feel that this approach gives the most sim feel to the game and takes away some human “expertise” to the random dice roll. So with this approach wouldn’t my catcher “know” what pitches are and aren’t working for my pitcher that day, and which pitches to call in certain situations?

[bryanm1982]

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Just one more question on this Armour. I listen to the catcher’s pitch call 100% of the time and the only time I change the location he asks for is when I think a pitch should be aimed further out of the strike zone than what he calls for. I just feel that this approach gives the most sim feel to the game and takes away some human “expertise” to the random dice roll. So with this approach wouldn’t my catcher “know” what pitches are and aren’t working for my pitcher that day, and which pitches to call in certain situations?

I follow the catcher too 99% of the time. It would be really cool if the game had a special attribute for catchers on game calling. So you would have a choice on what kind of catcher you would want. If you had a bad pitching staff a better game calling catcher would give your pitchers a boost.

I’m not sure what determines the catcher’s calls.

[Armor and Sword]

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Just one more question on this Armour. I listen to the catcher’s pitch call 100% of the time and the only time I change the location he asks for is when I think a pitch should be aimed further out of the strike zone than what he calls for. I just feel that this approach gives the most sim feel to the game and takes away some human “expertise” to the random dice roll. So with this approach wouldn’t my catcher “know” what pitches are and aren’t working for my pitcher that day, and which pitches to call in certain situations?

I have grown less and less fond of the API. I use my own for critical counts and situations. I am probably following his signs 40-50% of time max these days. So that should tell you how much I am disagreeing with the catcher. about half the time.

To me it is far for simulation when you are deciding the pitch sequencing as the CPU Catcher to me is not as smart as we may think with API.

Just my opinion.

And there are times I listen to him.....and pay for it and sometimes I don’t. But a big part of my joy in playing is the strategic element of the game and calling my own pitches.

[Armor and Sword]

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I follow the catcher too 99% of the time. It would be really cool if the game had a special attribute for catchers on game calling. So you would have a choice on what kind of catcher you would want. If you had a bad pitching staff a better game calling catcher would give your pitchers a boost.

I’m not sure what determines the catcher’s calls.

I have been pining for a catcher intelligence and relationship trait. Maybe one day we can get something a sort.

[JoshC1977]

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I have grown less and less fond of the API. I use my own for critical counts and situations. I am probably following his signs 40-50% of time max these days. So that should tell you how much I am disagreeing with the catcher. about half the time.

To me it is far for simulation when you are deciding the pitch sequencing as the CPU Catcher to me is not as smart as we may think with API.

Just my opinion.

And there are times I listen to him.....and pay for it and sometimes I don’t. But a big part of my joy in playing is the strategic element of the game and calling my own pitches.

I concur....it's like "letting the coach call the plays" on madden.

You and I both distance ourselves from overtly allowing "stick skills" from playing a massive role in the gameplay. But, no way am I going to distance myself from allowing my "mental skills" from playing a role.

[Burgess]

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I have grown less and less fond of the API. I use my own for critical counts and situations. I am probably following his signs 40-50% of time max these days. So that should tell you how much I am disagreeing with the catcher. about half the time.

To me it is far for simulation when you are deciding the pitch sequencing as the CPU Catcher to me is not as smart as we may think with API.

Just my opinion.

And there are times I listen to him.....and pay for it and sometimes I don’t. But a big part of my joy in playing is the strategic element of the game and calling my own pitches.

I guess that’s the issue - the only bad pitch is the one the cpu gets a hit on. Sometimes the catcher will call for a change up 4 pitches in a row. I accept that thinking “well the catcher knows the hitter, and their strengths and weaknesses”. When I get an out I just think the catcher was right (even though I was skeptical), but if I give up a hit on that last change up I’m thinking “damn, why didn’t I throw a heater”??

Same as not listening to the catcher - I’ve disagreed with the catcher and called my own pitch. When I give up a 450 ft bomb I think, “guess I should have listened to the catcher”!!

I guess the good thing about calling most of my own pitches will be that it will help me stay focused and in the game better when I’m on defence. I use auto fielding and auto throwing so my defence is simply listening to the catcher and pressing a button to throw. Sometimes I almost fall asleep!!

Thanks, as always, for your input