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  • CleveCluby
    Pro
    • Feb 2003
    • 808

    #91
    Re: Manage only Mode Thread

    Good morning Gents,

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    When it comes down to the nust and bolts of the game engine it would seem that the CPU vs. CPU games or manage only games should play realistically - then the differing difficulty modes, etc.. could go from there. I'm not a programmer or anything, it just seems that would be the basic game setup.


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    This is what I have been saying over and over.. The heart of the game or any BB game, should be based on the realism of the CPU vs CPU mode. If that plays well, then the adjustments should be minimal for arcaders. Especially since they are calling it a sim.

    If it sims correctly, Isn't that based on CPU vs. CPU games anyway.?

    Everyone has been aware of the lack of offense problem in ASB, especially in manage mode. Even the arcade players are aware of it.

    I have asked several times in several post, Asked.? Hell I have begged for Manage mode info. And I'm not the only one. But it seems to get passed over, ignored, or political type of answer which avoids a direct answer but leaves you scratching you're head.

    I realize Steve is very busy playing all the games and trying to answer as many questions as possible. And I am very grateful for this.. But to answer my question, He doesn't even have to play the game. He can just let the CPU play the CPU while he is doing something else.. Then simply report the score and states. Walks vs. K's, hits, etc... 2 to 3 games this way would pretty much give an answer to our questions.

    ASB man somewhat answered my question, I guess, But I have no doubt that someone out here can say with certainty that Yes, offensive production has been turned up in manage mode or No, scores are still 3 to 1 or 2 to 1 and not many hits.

    I also realize that we are a minority, and those of us that play this way look at the game in a completely different perspective. I know this because everyone pretty much tells us to go play OOTP.
    As if we are nuts to expect a fundamental video BB game.

    I am hoping for the best, but with the lack of info about Manage mode, as if it is a guarded secret, I am fearing the worst.

    In a way, It's kind of strange, The lack of offense was one of the biggest complaints last year, so you would think that with the Hype, ASB would be screaming and bragging about the new beefed up offense. They are talking about everything else, but pretty much avoiding any subject about offense.

    This is not that complicated of an issue, Either offense production is up, or it is not. SIMPLE as that.

    If it is not, I won't purchase the game, ( Even though I already have it ordered )

    Just makes me wonder. ?

    I guess now my only hope is to wait for some of you Manage mode brothers to spend your money, and start you're reports..

    Oh, I'm sure I'll be labeled as a whiner or trouble maker now, But I really don't care. That's why this board is here, to discuss thoughts and info about sports games.

    Well the info I need determines if I purchase a game or not. I buy ASB for one reason and one reason only... MANAGE MODE... If it does not work properly, there is no other reason to have it.. I bought an Xbox just to play this game last year. Was disappointed…

    I will buy MVP, but only because it is the only BB game available for the CPU and has a manage mode type. ...Hoping the CPU will have a few more options than console. and looking very, very, very strongly at MLB..

    God, Now I will probably have to get a PS2 … I’m glad ASB and MVP come out 2 weeks before ESPN and MLB.. This will give me time to learn.

    Anyway, I hope everyone finds what there looking for in any of the games and thank God. At least we have what seems like a pretty good choice this year. Good luck to all.

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    Its not like the mode in and of itself is seriously flawed - just needs a little adjustment in terms of offensive production and I will be able to waste an unimaginable amount of hours playing games and getting into the franchise options.


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    • THEBIGORANGE
      Rookie
      • Jul 2002
      • 231

      #92
      Re: Manage only Mode Thread

      I feel your pain!..many of us manage only players are looked upon as somewhat of a small and different breed. I just dont understand the fun of thumb bashing a no-name minor league wannabe into the greatest hitter of all time. Imean in ncaa 2004 i cant see the joy of taking a rb from east tn state university and rushing for 3000 yds and scoring 55 touchdowns in a single season to win the heisman, just not realistic. Let the players ratings take over and see a realistic result of a play. As a high school football coach i really enjoy playing the role of coach or manager and i just hope for a baseball game that can deliver a simple yat realistic cpu vs. cpu type of game.

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      • THEBIGORANGE
        Rookie
        • Jul 2002
        • 231

        #93
        Re: Manage only Mode Thread

        I feel your pain!..many of us manage only players are looked upon as somewhat of a small and different breed. I just dont understand the fun of thumb bashing a no-name minor league wannabe into the greatest hitter of all time. Imean in ncaa 2004 i cant see the joy of taking a rb from east tn state university and rushing for 3000 yds and scoring 55 touchdowns in a single season to win the heisman, just not realistic. Let the players ratings take over and see a realistic result of a play. As a high school football coach i really enjoy playing the role of coach or manager and i just hope for a baseball game that can deliver a simple yat realistic cpu vs. cpu type of game.

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        • THEBIGORANGE
          Rookie
          • Jul 2002
          • 231

          #94
          Re: Manage only Mode Thread

          I feel your pain!..many of us manage only players are looked upon as somewhat of a small and different breed. I just dont understand the fun of thumb bashing a no-name minor league wannabe into the greatest hitter of all time. Imean in ncaa 2004 i cant see the joy of taking a rb from east tn state university and rushing for 3000 yds and scoring 55 touchdowns in a single season to win the heisman, just not realistic. Let the players ratings take over and see a realistic result of a play. As a high school football coach i really enjoy playing the role of coach or manager and i just hope for a baseball game that can deliver a simple yat realistic cpu vs. cpu type of game.

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          • Gado
            Rookie
            • May 2003
            • 91

            #95
            Re: Manage only Mode Thread

            Hey Manage Only Players:

            There may be some good news for us MOM guys on the CPU vs. CPU front - the vidoes Steve just posted from the Beta are all CPU vs. CPU. In a few of the videos there are some offensive explosions where teams hang 4 or 5 on the board in an inning. In a couple of other cases teams scratch one across. The baserunning seems to be a lot better with runners scoring from 2nd on singles and in one case coming around from 1st on a double. There were also some videos with 1-2-3 innings, baserunners stranded, etc... but in what is there it seems like the offensive issue may have been addressed.

            There seems to be a good mix of grounders/ flyballs, and hit variety all over the park, including a number of extra base hits. The CPU also dropped in some SB's and drag bunts, which was a nice touch.

            There were a number of K's, although no walks in any of the footage. I didn't do any pitch counting, but it seemed like the CPU batters were taking some pitches.

            Admittedly, its a small sample - but I am encouraged by what I saw there.

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            • Gado
              Rookie
              • May 2003
              • 91

              #96
              Re: Manage only Mode Thread

              Hey Manage Only Players:

              There may be some good news for us MOM guys on the CPU vs. CPU front - the vidoes Steve just posted from the Beta are all CPU vs. CPU. In a few of the videos there are some offensive explosions where teams hang 4 or 5 on the board in an inning. In a couple of other cases teams scratch one across. The baserunning seems to be a lot better with runners scoring from 2nd on singles and in one case coming around from 1st on a double. There were also some videos with 1-2-3 innings, baserunners stranded, etc... but in what is there it seems like the offensive issue may have been addressed.

              There seems to be a good mix of grounders/ flyballs, and hit variety all over the park, including a number of extra base hits. The CPU also dropped in some SB's and drag bunts, which was a nice touch.

              There were a number of K's, although no walks in any of the footage. I didn't do any pitch counting, but it seemed like the CPU batters were taking some pitches.

              Admittedly, its a small sample - but I am encouraged by what I saw there.

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              • Gado
                Rookie
                • May 2003
                • 91

                #97
                Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                Hey Manage Only Players:

                There may be some good news for us MOM guys on the CPU vs. CPU front - the vidoes Steve just posted from the Beta are all CPU vs. CPU. In a few of the videos there are some offensive explosions where teams hang 4 or 5 on the board in an inning. In a couple of other cases teams scratch one across. The baserunning seems to be a lot better with runners scoring from 2nd on singles and in one case coming around from 1st on a double. There were also some videos with 1-2-3 innings, baserunners stranded, etc... but in what is there it seems like the offensive issue may have been addressed.

                There seems to be a good mix of grounders/ flyballs, and hit variety all over the park, including a number of extra base hits. The CPU also dropped in some SB's and drag bunts, which was a nice touch.

                There were a number of K's, although no walks in any of the footage. I didn't do any pitch counting, but it seemed like the CPU batters were taking some pitches.

                Admittedly, its a small sample - but I am encouraged by what I saw there.

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                • grismosw
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2655

                  #98
                  Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  Gado said:
                  Hey Manage Only Players:

                  There may be some good news for us MOM guys on the CPU vs. CPU front - the vidoes Steve just posted from the Beta are all CPU vs. CPU. In a few of the videos there are some offensive explosions where teams hang 4 or 5 on the board in an inning. In a couple of other cases teams scratch one across. The baserunning seems to be a lot better with runners scoring from 2nd on singles and in one case coming around from 1st on a double. There were also some videos with 1-2-3 innings, baserunners stranded, etc... but in what is there it seems like the offensive issue may have been addressed.

                  There seems to be a good mix of grounders/ flyballs, and hit variety all over the park, including a number of extra base hits. The CPU also dropped in some SB's and drag bunts, which was a nice touch.

                  There were a number of K's, although no walks in any of the footage. I didn't do any pitch counting, but it seemed like the CPU batters were taking some pitches.

                  Admittedly, its a small sample - but I am encouraged by what I saw there.

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                  Haven't had time to watch any videos but this sounds good.
                  PS4 Username: grismosw7

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                  • grismosw
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2655

                    #99
                    Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    Gado said:
                    Hey Manage Only Players:

                    There may be some good news for us MOM guys on the CPU vs. CPU front - the vidoes Steve just posted from the Beta are all CPU vs. CPU. In a few of the videos there are some offensive explosions where teams hang 4 or 5 on the board in an inning. In a couple of other cases teams scratch one across. The baserunning seems to be a lot better with runners scoring from 2nd on singles and in one case coming around from 1st on a double. There were also some videos with 1-2-3 innings, baserunners stranded, etc... but in what is there it seems like the offensive issue may have been addressed.

                    There seems to be a good mix of grounders/ flyballs, and hit variety all over the park, including a number of extra base hits. The CPU also dropped in some SB's and drag bunts, which was a nice touch.

                    There were a number of K's, although no walks in any of the footage. I didn't do any pitch counting, but it seemed like the CPU batters were taking some pitches.

                    Admittedly, its a small sample - but I am encouraged by what I saw there.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Haven't had time to watch any videos but this sounds good.
                    PS4 Username: grismosw7

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                    • grismosw
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2655

                      #100
                      Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Gado said:
                      Hey Manage Only Players:

                      There may be some good news for us MOM guys on the CPU vs. CPU front - the vidoes Steve just posted from the Beta are all CPU vs. CPU. In a few of the videos there are some offensive explosions where teams hang 4 or 5 on the board in an inning. In a couple of other cases teams scratch one across. The baserunning seems to be a lot better with runners scoring from 2nd on singles and in one case coming around from 1st on a double. There were also some videos with 1-2-3 innings, baserunners stranded, etc... but in what is there it seems like the offensive issue may have been addressed.

                      There seems to be a good mix of grounders/ flyballs, and hit variety all over the park, including a number of extra base hits. The CPU also dropped in some SB's and drag bunts, which was a nice touch.

                      There were a number of K's, although no walks in any of the footage. I didn't do any pitch counting, but it seemed like the CPU batters were taking some pitches.

                      Admittedly, its a small sample - but I am encouraged by what I saw there.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Haven't had time to watch any videos but this sounds good.
                      PS4 Username: grismosw7

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                      • rumorman
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 100

                        #101
                        Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                        I'm encouraged by your encouragement Gado! I only saw the first two, and was not thrilled with the lack of pitches thrown, and the lack of offense. Guess I gave up too soon. Downloading the rest now.

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                        • rumorman
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 100

                          #102
                          Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                          I'm encouraged by your encouragement Gado! I only saw the first two, and was not thrilled with the lack of pitches thrown, and the lack of offense. Guess I gave up too soon. Downloading the rest now.

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                          • rumorman
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 100

                            #103
                            Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                            I'm encouraged by your encouragement Gado! I only saw the first two, and was not thrilled with the lack of pitches thrown, and the lack of offense. Guess I gave up too soon. Downloading the rest now.

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                            • Gado
                              Rookie
                              • May 2003
                              • 91

                              #104
                              Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                              First two scared me a little bit too, but the other ones pick things up a bit. In the last one even the Tigers hit 3 doubles and scored 3 runs on Brad Radke.

                              If even the Tigers are scoring, then things must be looking up.

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                              • Gado
                                Rookie
                                • May 2003
                                • 91

                                #105
                                Re: Manage only Mode Thread

                                First two scared me a little bit too, but the other ones pick things up a bit. In the last one even the Tigers hit 3 doubles and scored 3 runs on Brad Radke.

                                If even the Tigers are scoring, then things must be looking up.

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