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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #181
    Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

    It's funny how so many are quick to claim that the press is "harsher" on ASB when it comes to flaws than it is with MVP. Let's break down what we've seen/heard:

    Let's keep this civil fellas!

    What exactly are MVP's flaws as of right now?

    Here's what I gather from what I've read (here, and in previews):

    -Poor collision detection
    -Less accurate batting stances compared to ASB
    -No player fatigue over course of a season
    -Franchise mode is not as "in-depth" compared to others
    -Over the top HR celebrations (Fireworks)

    Now, for ASB:

    -SOME quirks with Fielder cam (although many like it!)
    -Still slow reaction times by fielders ("crouch" seems still there, although to less of an extent)
    -Crowds still aren't as reactive as we want
    -Hit Variety isn't as much as in MVP

    Now, let's post some things that are unique and done well in each franchise:

    MVP
    -Throwing meters
    -Pitching interface is very interactive
    -Individual follow throughs on swings
    -Player animations - best we've seen (although MLB might have something to say about that!)
    -PIP Baserunning with controlled slides
    -Runners hit with the ball in fair territory are declared out(!)
    -Playable Minors w/ Licensing

    ASB
    -Most in depth Franchise includes Rule 5 and Arb.
    -Slide step while pitching (LOVE that one)
    -First to include "Future Throw"
    -TWIB Scenarios similar to NCAA Football
    -Best sig. batting and pitching stances.
    -BTP/Broadcast cam is AMAZING
    -Best HR collision detection


    I'm sure there are others, but that's a quick list. You can see that MVP just has so many great factors that are in direct relation to GAMEPLAY (what we're always touting here at OS) that it's no wonder WHY MVP is getting the press it is. That doesn't knock ASB... it just seems like EA is offering more. ASB looks like the more realistic representation of baseball... it has things that when you WATCH IT, look like it's closer than MVP is.... but (and I'm just guessing here...) MVP is more fun to play.

    Fun AND realism... isn't that all it comes down to? I'm sure there are many more having fun with MVP than ASB... without sacrificing realism. Sure, there's fireworks and all this other stuff... but from Steve's Impressions... realism isn't being sacrificed.

    Ugh... while it sounds like I'm "pimping" MVP... I'm not. Just trying to give a little breakdown as to why things are being pushed the way they are.
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    • Ed_Farias
      MVP
      • Mar 2003
      • 1222

      #182
      Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

      Fun to play to one person is not the same to another . I found High Heat 2000-2003 fun to play, did a majority of the gaming world find it fun? Probably not.

      I won't beat the poor dead horse anymore. ASB is just fun to me, because it looks and feels authentic. However, I agree that most of the game reviewers and magazines will think MVP is fun to play, and it probably is for them.

      So all and all, I am tired of compairing MVP to ASB . Let's compair ASB to MLB and MVP to ESPN. Looks like right now I might be picking up MLB as well. You can really tell the two dev teams that love the game of baseball, it really shows in their attention to detail in the games.

      The latest game informer has the Executive Producer of ESPN list his top five games of all time. All are RPGs, hmmm . Now that probably means nothing, but makes me think. I will bet that ASB_Man has a baseball game in his top 5 (Ok, maybe not. Maybe only I have 4 baseball games in my top 5 games of all time LOL).

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      • Ed_Farias
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 1222

        #183
        Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

        Fun to play to one person is not the same to another . I found High Heat 2000-2003 fun to play, did a majority of the gaming world find it fun? Probably not.

        I won't beat the poor dead horse anymore. ASB is just fun to me, because it looks and feels authentic. However, I agree that most of the game reviewers and magazines will think MVP is fun to play, and it probably is for them.

        So all and all, I am tired of compairing MVP to ASB . Let's compair ASB to MLB and MVP to ESPN. Looks like right now I might be picking up MLB as well. You can really tell the two dev teams that love the game of baseball, it really shows in their attention to detail in the games.

        The latest game informer has the Executive Producer of ESPN list his top five games of all time. All are RPGs, hmmm . Now that probably means nothing, but makes me think. I will bet that ASB_Man has a baseball game in his top 5 (Ok, maybe not. Maybe only I have 4 baseball games in my top 5 games of all time LOL).

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        • Ed_Farias
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 1222

          #184
          Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

          Fun to play to one person is not the same to another . I found High Heat 2000-2003 fun to play, did a majority of the gaming world find it fun? Probably not.

          I won't beat the poor dead horse anymore. ASB is just fun to me, because it looks and feels authentic. However, I agree that most of the game reviewers and magazines will think MVP is fun to play, and it probably is for them.

          So all and all, I am tired of compairing MVP to ASB . Let's compair ASB to MLB and MVP to ESPN. Looks like right now I might be picking up MLB as well. You can really tell the two dev teams that love the game of baseball, it really shows in their attention to detail in the games.

          The latest game informer has the Executive Producer of ESPN list his top five games of all time. All are RPGs, hmmm . Now that probably means nothing, but makes me think. I will bet that ASB_Man has a baseball game in his top 5 (Ok, maybe not. Maybe only I have 4 baseball games in my top 5 games of all time LOL).

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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #185
            Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

            I'm not trying to define ANYONE'S "fun."

            I'm simply giving a breakdown of what everyone is commenting about most ofteb when the two titles are being compared as often as they are.

            If they are bringing up these often, it obviously has an effect on their "fun."
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              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #186
              Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

              I'm not trying to define ANYONE'S "fun."

              I'm simply giving a breakdown of what everyone is commenting about most ofteb when the two titles are being compared as often as they are.

              If they are bringing up these often, it obviously has an effect on their "fun."
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                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #187
                Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                I'm not trying to define ANYONE'S "fun."

                I'm simply giving a breakdown of what everyone is commenting about most ofteb when the two titles are being compared as often as they are.

                If they are bringing up these often, it obviously has an effect on their "fun."
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                • Riotboy
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 253

                  #188
                  Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  Pared said:
                  I'm not trying to define ANYONE'S "fun."

                  I'm simply giving a breakdown of what everyone is commenting about most ofteb when the two titles are being compared as often as they are.

                  If they are bringing up these often, it obviously has an effect on their "fun."

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  I liked your breakdown. Plus, when everyone get their hands on their ASB/MVP copies that's when the real fireworks are gonna start. Can't wait. BTW, happy fat Tuesday everyone.
                  Coming is my style, but I have to go.

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                  • Riotboy
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 253

                    #189
                    Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    Pared said:
                    I'm not trying to define ANYONE'S "fun."

                    I'm simply giving a breakdown of what everyone is commenting about most ofteb when the two titles are being compared as often as they are.

                    If they are bringing up these often, it obviously has an effect on their "fun."

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    I liked your breakdown. Plus, when everyone get their hands on their ASB/MVP copies that's when the real fireworks are gonna start. Can't wait. BTW, happy fat Tuesday everyone.
                    Coming is my style, but I have to go.

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                    • Riotboy
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 253

                      #190
                      Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Pared said:
                      I'm not trying to define ANYONE'S "fun."

                      I'm simply giving a breakdown of what everyone is commenting about most ofteb when the two titles are being compared as often as they are.

                      If they are bringing up these often, it obviously has an effect on their "fun."

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      I liked your breakdown. Plus, when everyone get their hands on their ASB/MVP copies that's when the real fireworks are gonna start. Can't wait. BTW, happy fat Tuesday everyone.
                      Coming is my style, but I have to go.

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                      • Ed_Farias
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1222

                        #191
                        Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                        LOL, yeah should be exciting. Hopefully I will be having too much fun with ASB to care. Of course, I have 8 hours at work where I can't play the game .

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                        • Ed_Farias
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1222

                          #192
                          Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                          LOL, yeah should be exciting. Hopefully I will be having too much fun with ASB to care. Of course, I have 8 hours at work where I can't play the game .

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                          • Ed_Farias
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1222

                            #193
                            Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                            LOL, yeah should be exciting. Hopefully I will be having too much fun with ASB to care. Of course, I have 8 hours at work where I can't play the game .

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #194
                              Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                              Oh, one thing I forgot to mention was MVP has sliders while ASB does not. Being able to tailor a game to an individual's liking through sliders is now a big deal to some people.

                              I feel if ASB included sliders, many of the gripes people have (including mine) would be lessened.
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                                • Feb 2003
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                                #195
                                Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                                Oh, one thing I forgot to mention was MVP has sliders while ASB does not. Being able to tailor a game to an individual's liking through sliders is now a big deal to some people.

                                I feel if ASB included sliders, many of the gripes people have (including mine) would be lessened.
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