Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

**Pared** · 02-24-2004, 03:59 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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TXBginz said:
EA fanboys cant handle the truth, that is why they flame. Reminds me of Jack in 'A Few Good Men'. "You cant handle the truth!"

ginz

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C'mon man... with that post, you sound like an "ASB Fanboy..."

**JoeDog10** · 02-24-2004, 04:04 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

In my opinion, realism is the most important feature in a baseball game. I owned ASB last year, and while it was an unbelievable game in terms of being able to make you feel like a GM (Rule 5 Draft, Waivers, Career Franchise Leaders, etc.), the gameplay was horrible.

In ASB, you can basically pitch the ball with pinpoint accuracy every single time. Even with the pitching cursor off, it's still unbelievably easy to hit the corners. To me, that just ruins the game right there.

Also, it is way too easy to hit homeruns. If you were a good hitter, used cursor batting with power, and got the cursor near the ball, it would be a homerun. What is the fun in that?

Now, I'm not an MVP "fanboy" by any means. I didn't play the game at all last year, but it will be the one that I'm getting this year. From everything that I've read, especially from Steve's beta reviews, it sounds like the most realistic baseball game of the year (haven't heard much about MLB, but I heard that might be pretty good as well).

I think having sliders in a game is now becoming the most important feature that a game can have. High Heat was obviously the best game for us sim lovers. But it sounds like MVP will be right there this year, especially now that it has sliders, which has me totally pumped! Too easy to hit homeruns? Put power down a couple of notches. Too easy to steal? Put baserunner speed down a little. That is why I think MVP will be the game to beat this year.

**JoeDog10** · 02-24-2004, 04:04 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

In my opinion, realism is the most important feature in a baseball game. I owned ASB last year, and while it was an unbelievable game in terms of being able to make you feel like a GM (Rule 5 Draft, Waivers, Career Franchise Leaders, etc.), the gameplay was horrible.

In ASB, you can basically pitch the ball with pinpoint accuracy every single time. Even with the pitching cursor off, it's still unbelievably easy to hit the corners. To me, that just ruins the game right there.

Also, it is way too easy to hit homeruns. If you were a good hitter, used cursor batting with power, and got the cursor near the ball, it would be a homerun. What is the fun in that?

Now, I'm not an MVP "fanboy" by any means. I didn't play the game at all last year, but it will be the one that I'm getting this year. From everything that I've read, especially from Steve's beta reviews, it sounds like the most realistic baseball game of the year (haven't heard much about MLB, but I heard that might be pretty good as well).

I think having sliders in a game is now becoming the most important feature that a game can have. High Heat was obviously the best game for us sim lovers. But it sounds like MVP will be right there this year, especially now that it has sliders, which has me totally pumped! Too easy to hit homeruns? Put power down a couple of notches. Too easy to steal? Put baserunner speed down a little. That is why I think MVP will be the game to beat this year.

**JoeDog10** · 02-24-2004, 04:04 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

In my opinion, realism is the most important feature in a baseball game. I owned ASB last year, and while it was an unbelievable game in terms of being able to make you feel like a GM (Rule 5 Draft, Waivers, Career Franchise Leaders, etc.), the gameplay was horrible.

In ASB, you can basically pitch the ball with pinpoint accuracy every single time. Even with the pitching cursor off, it's still unbelievably easy to hit the corners. To me, that just ruins the game right there.

Also, it is way too easy to hit homeruns. If you were a good hitter, used cursor batting with power, and got the cursor near the ball, it would be a homerun. What is the fun in that?

Now, I'm not an MVP "fanboy" by any means. I didn't play the game at all last year, but it will be the one that I'm getting this year. From everything that I've read, especially from Steve's beta reviews, it sounds like the most realistic baseball game of the year (haven't heard much about MLB, but I heard that might be pretty good as well).

I think having sliders in a game is now becoming the most important feature that a game can have. High Heat was obviously the best game for us sim lovers. But it sounds like MVP will be right there this year, especially now that it has sliders, which has me totally pumped! Too easy to hit homeruns? Put power down a couple of notches. Too easy to steal? Put baserunner speed down a little. That is why I think MVP will be the game to beat this year.

**SoMiss2000** · 02-24-2004, 04:05 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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Pared said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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- EA Sports Pureswing system
- Big Play Control

<hr /></blockquote> IMO, there is no way that you're gonna tell me that this is new....

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Did you read my post? I wrote the same thing... they're advertising it b/c it's new for them, but well informed buyers know the difference.

AND it's NOT just for dives... it's also for controlling WHERE YOU SLIDE ON THE BAG.

If you check, I don't remember ANY other game having that...

<hr /></blockquote>I don't know what game it was but it was probably Roger Clemens Baseball where you could choose your slide with the D-Pad (and also choose where on the bag you wanted to get in) It was a game within a game, you had to guess whether the AI would apply the tag on the left side or the right. I remember this vividly. The game may not be right but this has been done before. Again, this stuff is not new. There ain't much gamers our age (I'm 27) haven't seen. It's all being repeated.

And no Pared, i didn't read your post. I usally don't read the whole thread before I post. I see something I want to respond to and I do it.

**SoMiss2000** · 02-24-2004, 04:05 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Pared said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SoMiss2000 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
- EA Sports Pureswing system
- Big Play Control

<hr /></blockquote> IMO, there is no way that you're gonna tell me that this is new....

<hr /></blockquote>

Did you read my post? I wrote the same thing... they're advertising it b/c it's new for them, but well informed buyers know the difference.

AND it's NOT just for dives... it's also for controlling WHERE YOU SLIDE ON THE BAG.

If you check, I don't remember ANY other game having that...

<hr /></blockquote>I don't know what game it was but it was probably Roger Clemens Baseball where you could choose your slide with the D-Pad (and also choose where on the bag you wanted to get in) It was a game within a game, you had to guess whether the AI would apply the tag on the left side or the right. I remember this vividly. The game may not be right but this has been done before. Again, this stuff is not new. There ain't much gamers our age (I'm 27) haven't seen. It's all being repeated.

And no Pared, i didn't read your post. I usally don't read the whole thread before I post. I see something I want to respond to and I do it.

**SoMiss2000** · 02-24-2004, 04:05 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Pared said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SoMiss2000 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
- EA Sports Pureswing system
- Big Play Control

<hr /></blockquote> IMO, there is no way that you're gonna tell me that this is new....

<hr /></blockquote>

Did you read my post? I wrote the same thing... they're advertising it b/c it's new for them, but well informed buyers know the difference.

AND it's NOT just for dives... it's also for controlling WHERE YOU SLIDE ON THE BAG.

If you check, I don't remember ANY other game having that...

<hr /></blockquote>I don't know what game it was but it was probably Roger Clemens Baseball where you could choose your slide with the D-Pad (and also choose where on the bag you wanted to get in) It was a game within a game, you had to guess whether the AI would apply the tag on the left side or the right. I remember this vividly. The game may not be right but this has been done before. Again, this stuff is not new. There ain't much gamers our age (I'm 27) haven't seen. It's all being repeated.

And no Pared, i didn't read your post. I usally don't read the whole thread before I post. I see something I want to respond to and I do it.

**TXBginz** · 02-24-2004, 04:10 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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Pared said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
TXBginz said:
EA fanboys cant handle the truth, that is why they flame. Reminds me of Jack in 'A Few Good Men'. "You cant handle the truth!"

ginz

<hr /></blockquote>

C'mon man... with that post, you sound like an "ASB Fanboy..."

<hr /></blockquote>

lol, im not in here tooting ASB's horn, ok? I dont care for EA's business model...if you thihk that 'EA Nation' is all that, then by all means support them. But, as many know, EA fanboys are the worst. I buy a few(2-3) EA games every year....maybe MVP this year, I still dunno.

ginz

**TXBginz** · 02-24-2004, 04:10 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Pared said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
TXBginz said:
EA fanboys cant handle the truth, that is why they flame. Reminds me of Jack in 'A Few Good Men'. "You cant handle the truth!"

ginz

<hr /></blockquote>

C'mon man... with that post, you sound like an "ASB Fanboy..."

<hr /></blockquote>

lol, im not in here tooting ASB's horn, ok? I dont care for EA's business model...if you thihk that 'EA Nation' is all that, then by all means support them. But, as many know, EA fanboys are the worst. I buy a few(2-3) EA games every year....maybe MVP this year, I still dunno.

ginz

**TXBginz** · 02-24-2004, 04:10 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Pared said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
TXBginz said:
EA fanboys cant handle the truth, that is why they flame. Reminds me of Jack in 'A Few Good Men'. "You cant handle the truth!"

ginz

<hr /></blockquote>

C'mon man... with that post, you sound like an "ASB Fanboy..."

<hr /></blockquote>

lol, im not in here tooting ASB's horn, ok? I dont care for EA's business model...if you thihk that 'EA Nation' is all that, then by all means support them. But, as many know, EA fanboys are the worst. I buy a few(2-3) EA games every year....maybe MVP this year, I still dunno.

ginz

**TXBginz** · 02-24-2004, 04:18 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Another thing I know...all but most of EA's fanboy group are also PS2 fanboys, which is pretty funny. If you own a PS2 then you (should) own 2 Xbox(or ATLEAST 1), its that simple. I have a PS2 and you know how many games I have for it? ZERO. Know why? Crap, thats why. Games look better in 480p, 720p and the 6.1DD sound is 10x better coming from Xbox. Plus Xbox Live! simply blows Sony's adapter out of the water. No contest.

But please, lets stay on topic shall we? Thanks...

ginz

**TXBginz** · 02-24-2004, 04:18 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Another thing I know...all but most of EA's fanboy group are also PS2 fanboys, which is pretty funny. If you own a PS2 then you (should) own 2 Xbox(or ATLEAST 1), its that simple. I have a PS2 and you know how many games I have for it? ZERO. Know why? Crap, thats why. Games look better in 480p, 720p and the 6.1DD sound is 10x better coming from Xbox. Plus Xbox Live! simply blows Sony's adapter out of the water. No contest.

But please, lets stay on topic shall we? Thanks...

ginz

**TXBginz** · 02-24-2004, 04:18 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Another thing I know...all but most of EA's fanboy group are also PS2 fanboys, which is pretty funny. If you own a PS2 then you (should) own 2 Xbox(or ATLEAST 1), its that simple. I have a PS2 and you know how many games I have for it? ZERO. Know why? Crap, thats why. Games look better in 480p, 720p and the 6.1DD sound is 10x better coming from Xbox. Plus Xbox Live! simply blows Sony's adapter out of the water. No contest.

But please, lets stay on topic shall we? Thanks...

ginz

**Pared** · 02-24-2004, 04:18 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SoMiss2000 said:
I don't know what game it was but it was probably Roger Clemens Baseball where you could choose your slide with the D-Pad (and also choose where on the bag you wanted to get in) It was a game within a game, you had to guess whether the AI would apply the tag on the left side or the right. I remember this vividly. The game may not be right but this has been done before. Again, this stuff is not new. There ain't much gamers our age (I'm 27) haven't seen. It's all being repeated.

And no Pared, i didn't read your post. I usally don't read the whole thread before I post. I see something I want to respond to and I do it.

<hr /></blockquote>

Cool, I didn't know that!

The "game within a game" is exactly what I'm looking for when I try it out...

But if you can't advertise things done before that aren't being done now... how are you going to advertise your game? It's new to the "series," so they have every right to advertise. But me and you as informed gamers who visit OS know otherwise!

I just don't think the argument "it's not new, it's been done before" can't really hold much merit... I even made a big issue to FP in the ESPN board b/c they were doing the same thing... and he made a good point that it makes sense if it's new to the series... it's just up to the gamers to know better.

And I hear you on reading something and just replying to it... BUT... you are missing out on some quality posts in this thread (hell, IMO, the best thread [discussion-wise] has seen yet).

**Pared** · 02-24-2004, 04:18 PM

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SoMiss2000 said:
I don't know what game it was but it was probably Roger Clemens Baseball where you could choose your slide with the D-Pad (and also choose where on the bag you wanted to get in) It was a game within a game, you had to guess whether the AI would apply the tag on the left side or the right. I remember this vividly. The game may not be right but this has been done before. Again, this stuff is not new. There ain't much gamers our age (I'm 27) haven't seen. It's all being repeated.

And no Pared, i didn't read your post. I usally don't read the whole thread before I post. I see something I want to respond to and I do it.

<hr /></blockquote>

Cool, I didn't know that!

The "game within a game" is exactly what I'm looking for when I try it out...

But if you can't advertise things done before that aren't being done now... how are you going to advertise your game? It's new to the "series," so they have every right to advertise. But me and you as informed gamers who visit OS know otherwise!

I just don't think the argument "it's not new, it's been done before" can't really hold much merit... I even made a big issue to FP in the ESPN board b/c they were doing the same thing... and he made a good point that it makes sense if it's new to the series... it's just up to the gamers to know better.

And I hear you on reading something and just replying to it... BUT... you are missing out on some quality posts in this thread (hell, IMO, the best thread [discussion-wise] has seen yet).

Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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