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    • Feb 2003
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    #196
    Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

    Oh, one thing I forgot to mention was MVP has sliders while ASB does not. Being able to tailor a game to an individual's liking through sliders is now a big deal to some people.

    I feel if ASB included sliders, many of the gripes people have (including mine) would be lessened.
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    • p00p1
      Pro
      • Aug 2002
      • 987

      #197
      Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

      I think the sliders are a HUGE advantage MVP has over ASB. How many ppl are actually challenged by ASB? I can't remember the last time I lost a game once I got the hang of it. But the main reason I will buy MVP over ASB this year is because I HAVE to, they dropped the GC support, seemingly just so all their versions will be playable online, since they obviously didn't redo the graphics.

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      • p00p1
        Pro
        • Aug 2002
        • 987

        #198
        Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

        I think the sliders are a HUGE advantage MVP has over ASB. How many ppl are actually challenged by ASB? I can't remember the last time I lost a game once I got the hang of it. But the main reason I will buy MVP over ASB this year is because I HAVE to, they dropped the GC support, seemingly just so all their versions will be playable online, since they obviously didn't redo the graphics.

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        • p00p1
          Pro
          • Aug 2002
          • 987

          #199
          Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

          I think the sliders are a HUGE advantage MVP has over ASB. How many ppl are actually challenged by ASB? I can't remember the last time I lost a game once I got the hang of it. But the main reason I will buy MVP over ASB this year is because I HAVE to, they dropped the GC support, seemingly just so all their versions will be playable online, since they obviously didn't redo the graphics.

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          • drood
            Rookie
            • Feb 2003
            • 138

            #200
            Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

            Oh the irony! This is the hottest thread in the ASB forum. You know, I'm all for competition, and although I suspect I'll have the most fun playing MVP (did last year) - I just love pitching in MVP and that's my favorite part of baseball - anyhow, I'm really glad that other people like the other games, because I think they're all WAY better thanks to the competition, and the ideas that they give to each other. The thing is, I think Acclaim may be going down, and like 3DO/HH, they're gonna take ASB with them I'm afraid - maybe MSFT will buy the source code and add it to the collection... Baseball is a tough market. It sells fewer copies than any of the other genres, and yet last year there were 7 on the field simulation games. It's really no wonder that the franchises are struggling. With any luck, this years crop of only 5 titles (still alot) is good enough to grow the market so that there's room for at least 3 or 4 to survive.

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            • drood
              Rookie
              • Feb 2003
              • 138

              #201
              Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

              Oh the irony! This is the hottest thread in the ASB forum. You know, I'm all for competition, and although I suspect I'll have the most fun playing MVP (did last year) - I just love pitching in MVP and that's my favorite part of baseball - anyhow, I'm really glad that other people like the other games, because I think they're all WAY better thanks to the competition, and the ideas that they give to each other. The thing is, I think Acclaim may be going down, and like 3DO/HH, they're gonna take ASB with them I'm afraid - maybe MSFT will buy the source code and add it to the collection... Baseball is a tough market. It sells fewer copies than any of the other genres, and yet last year there were 7 on the field simulation games. It's really no wonder that the franchises are struggling. With any luck, this years crop of only 5 titles (still alot) is good enough to grow the market so that there's room for at least 3 or 4 to survive.

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              • drood
                Rookie
                • Feb 2003
                • 138

                #202
                Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                Oh the irony! This is the hottest thread in the ASB forum. You know, I'm all for competition, and although I suspect I'll have the most fun playing MVP (did last year) - I just love pitching in MVP and that's my favorite part of baseball - anyhow, I'm really glad that other people like the other games, because I think they're all WAY better thanks to the competition, and the ideas that they give to each other. The thing is, I think Acclaim may be going down, and like 3DO/HH, they're gonna take ASB with them I'm afraid - maybe MSFT will buy the source code and add it to the collection... Baseball is a tough market. It sells fewer copies than any of the other genres, and yet last year there were 7 on the field simulation games. It's really no wonder that the franchises are struggling. With any luck, this years crop of only 5 titles (still alot) is good enough to grow the market so that there's room for at least 3 or 4 to survive.

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                • JRod
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3266

                  #203
                  Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                  Well you could subsitute MVP for Madden and ASB for ESPN NFL 2k and it would be the same damn arguement.

                  ASB has flaws, MVP has flaws.

                  MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game. Let's face it playing as a minor league team is a big deal. They've added a franchise mode that's a big uncertainty and that has peaked people's interest. And they claimed (supported by OS impressions) that the gameplay is much improved.

                  Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year. Okay so there's a fielder cam. They claim to have better AI but I've heard that one before from other companies and now I need to see more.

                  It just seems to me that ASB has done a quite of bit of tweaking. THat would be fine in of itself if it's competitors jsut did tweaking. But MVP from the impressions made huge strides and that's what is fueling the hype.

                  Now none of this has anything to do with how good the games will be. But if I were ASB I would make sure every major sports gaming outlet gets new screens, movie and a beta. That seems to be MVP's way of generating hype.

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                  • JRod
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3266

                    #204
                    Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                    Well you could subsitute MVP for Madden and ASB for ESPN NFL 2k and it would be the same damn arguement.

                    ASB has flaws, MVP has flaws.

                    MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game. Let's face it playing as a minor league team is a big deal. They've added a franchise mode that's a big uncertainty and that has peaked people's interest. And they claimed (supported by OS impressions) that the gameplay is much improved.

                    Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year. Okay so there's a fielder cam. They claim to have better AI but I've heard that one before from other companies and now I need to see more.

                    It just seems to me that ASB has done a quite of bit of tweaking. THat would be fine in of itself if it's competitors jsut did tweaking. But MVP from the impressions made huge strides and that's what is fueling the hype.

                    Now none of this has anything to do with how good the games will be. But if I were ASB I would make sure every major sports gaming outlet gets new screens, movie and a beta. That seems to be MVP's way of generating hype.

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                    • JRod
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3266

                      #205
                      Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

                      Well you could subsitute MVP for Madden and ASB for ESPN NFL 2k and it would be the same damn arguement.

                      ASB has flaws, MVP has flaws.

                      MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game. Let's face it playing as a minor league team is a big deal. They've added a franchise mode that's a big uncertainty and that has peaked people's interest. And they claimed (supported by OS impressions) that the gameplay is much improved.

                      Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year. Okay so there's a fielder cam. They claim to have better AI but I've heard that one before from other companies and now I need to see more.

                      It just seems to me that ASB has done a quite of bit of tweaking. THat would be fine in of itself if it's competitors jsut did tweaking. But MVP from the impressions made huge strides and that's what is fueling the hype.

                      Now none of this has anything to do with how good the games will be. But if I were ASB I would make sure every major sports gaming outlet gets new screens, movie and a beta. That seems to be MVP's way of generating hype.

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                      • GTheorenHobbes
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2572

                        #206
                        Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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                        JRod said:
                        MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game.
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                        Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year.

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                        C'mon Jrod. You don't actually believe these things you just said, do you? Maybe you do. In which case, the MVP hype machine may be worth every penny that has been spent by EA marketing.

                        I'm looking forward to MVP, but to say that it has "added so many never before features in the game," while ASB and others have stood still, is speaking with blinders on IMHO.

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                        • GTheorenHobbes
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2572

                          #207
                          Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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                          JRod said:
                          MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game.
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                          Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          C'mon Jrod. You don't actually believe these things you just said, do you? Maybe you do. In which case, the MVP hype machine may be worth every penny that has been spent by EA marketing.

                          I'm looking forward to MVP, but to say that it has "added so many never before features in the game," while ASB and others have stood still, is speaking with blinders on IMHO.

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                          • GTheorenHobbes
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2572

                            #208
                            Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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                            JRod said:
                            MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game.
                            ***
                            Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            C'mon Jrod. You don't actually believe these things you just said, do you? Maybe you do. In which case, the MVP hype machine may be worth every penny that has been spent by EA marketing.

                            I'm looking forward to MVP, but to say that it has "added so many never before features in the game," while ASB and others have stood still, is speaking with blinders on IMHO.

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                            • lnin0
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1507

                              #209
                              Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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                              JRod said:
                              Well you could subsitute MVP for Madden and ASB for ESPN NFL 2k and it would be the same damn arguement.

                              ASB has flaws, MVP has flaws.

                              MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game. Let's face it playing as a minor league team is a big deal. They've added a franchise mode that's a big uncertainty and that has peaked people's interest. And they claimed (supported by OS impressions) that the gameplay is much improved.

                              Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year. Okay so there's a fielder cam. They claim to have better AI but I've heard that one before from other companies and now I need to see more.

                              It just seems to me that ASB has done a quite of bit of tweaking. THat would be fine in of itself if it's competitors jsut did tweaking. But MVP from the impressions made huge strides and that's what is fueling the hype.

                              Now none of this has anything to do with how good the games will be. But if I were ASB I would make sure every major sports gaming outlet gets new screens, movie and a beta. That seems to be MVP's way of generating hype.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">You do realize your post exemplifies the exact kind of biased spin this thread was refering to?

                              Come March I think we are going to see a lot of denial and bubbles bursting trying to live up to the emmense hype so maybe it isn't so bad rooting for an underachiever after all. Out.

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                              • lnin0
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1507

                                #210
                                Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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                                JRod said:
                                Well you could subsitute MVP for Madden and ASB for ESPN NFL 2k and it would be the same damn arguement.

                                ASB has flaws, MVP has flaws.

                                MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game. Let's face it playing as a minor league team is a big deal. They've added a franchise mode that's a big uncertainty and that has peaked people's interest. And they claimed (supported by OS impressions) that the gameplay is much improved.

                                Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year. Okay so there's a fielder cam. They claim to have better AI but I've heard that one before from other companies and now I need to see more.

                                It just seems to me that ASB has done a quite of bit of tweaking. THat would be fine in of itself if it's competitors jsut did tweaking. But MVP from the impressions made huge strides and that's what is fueling the hype.

                                Now none of this has anything to do with how good the games will be. But if I were ASB I would make sure every major sports gaming outlet gets new screens, movie and a beta. That seems to be MVP's way of generating hype.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">You do realize your post exemplifies the exact kind of biased spin this thread was refering to?

                                Come March I think we are going to see a lot of denial and bubbles bursting trying to live up to the emmense hype so maybe it isn't so bad rooting for an underachiever after all. Out.

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