You may be right about too much control, but I'm definitely intrigued and want to try it out. If it allows me to make all kinds of ridiculous plays that should never happen, then I will have a problem with it. If it just gives me the control to make plays that a good outfielder could make and just over does it a little bit with the animations (the 180 pitcher throw thing), then I'm fine with that. I think both games should be fun and realistic, but I think they will play VERY differently. Should be interesting.
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You may be right about too much control, but I'm definitely intrigued and want to try it out. If it allows me to make all kinds of ridiculous plays that should never happen, then I will have a problem with it. If it just gives me the control to make plays that a good outfielder could make and just over does it a little bit with the animations (the 180 pitcher throw thing), then I'm fine with that. I think both games should be fun and realistic, but I think they will play VERY differently. Should be interesting. -
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You may be right about too much control, but I'm definitely intrigued and want to try it out. If it allows me to make all kinds of ridiculous plays that should never happen, then I will have a problem with it. If it just gives me the control to make plays that a good outfielder could make and just over does it a little bit with the animations (the 180 pitcher throw thing), then I'm fine with that. I think both games should be fun and realistic, but I think they will play VERY differently. Should be interesting.
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Agree 100 percent. Some how I keep getting into this which game is better battle, and I just don't know. I have ASB preordered because I loved last years game, and don't see any reason I won't like it this year. I will give all the games a fair chance, thank goodness for gamefly
Do you know if you can throw with the analog stick in MVP as well? One major concern of mine is jumping from the face buttons, to right analog and back to the face buttons to throw. Hopefully you can throw from the analog stick as it will make the transition from a diving catch on a grounder, to the throw a lot less clunky.Comment
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You may be right about too much control, but I'm definitely intrigued and want to try it out. If it allows me to make all kinds of ridiculous plays that should never happen, then I will have a problem with it. If it just gives me the control to make plays that a good outfielder could make and just over does it a little bit with the animations (the 180 pitcher throw thing), then I'm fine with that. I think both games should be fun and realistic, but I think they will play VERY differently. Should be interesting.
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Agree 100 percent. Some how I keep getting into this which game is better battle, and I just don't know. I have ASB preordered because I loved last years game, and don't see any reason I won't like it this year. I will give all the games a fair chance, thank goodness for gamefly
Do you know if you can throw with the analog stick in MVP as well? One major concern of mine is jumping from the face buttons, to right analog and back to the face buttons to throw. Hopefully you can throw from the analog stick as it will make the transition from a diving catch on a grounder, to the throw a lot less clunky.Comment
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You may be right about too much control, but I'm definitely intrigued and want to try it out. If it allows me to make all kinds of ridiculous plays that should never happen, then I will have a problem with it. If it just gives me the control to make plays that a good outfielder could make and just over does it a little bit with the animations (the 180 pitcher throw thing), then I'm fine with that. I think both games should be fun and realistic, but I think they will play VERY differently. Should be interesting.
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Agree 100 percent. Some how I keep getting into this which game is better battle, and I just don't know. I have ASB preordered because I loved last years game, and don't see any reason I won't like it this year. I will give all the games a fair chance, thank goodness for gamefly
Do you know if you can throw with the analog stick in MVP as well? One major concern of mine is jumping from the face buttons, to right analog and back to the face buttons to throw. Hopefully you can throw from the analog stick as it will make the transition from a diving catch on a grounder, to the throw a lot less clunky.Comment
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MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game.
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Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year.
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C'mon Jrod. You don't actually believe these things you just said, do you? Maybe you do. In which case, the MVP hype machine may be worth every penny that has been spent by EA marketing.
I'm looking forward to MVP, but to say that it has "added so many never before features in the game," while ASB and others have stood still, is speaking with blinders on IMHO.
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Okay this is from the fact sheet feature list from OS and the acclaim website. MVP is from OS
- New fielding game.
- Analog-control batting
- online head-to-head
- exclusive TWIB features
- Deepest franchise mode
- Two-Man commentary
- Tutorial from Steve Lyons
- Create a player
- Over 80 fully animated stadium
- Most realisic baseball experience
Now MVP ( I had to selectively edit from the paragraphs included.
- EA Sports Pureswing system
- Big Play Control
- Franchise mode with team chemistry, club goals etc.
- Manager Mode
- Cooperstown collection
- The minors
- Pick you park - some stadium feature
- EA Sports nation - online PS2 play.
So what has ASB done above that of MVP.
Franchse - both state they have improved this area and it's pretty deep.
Gameplay - both say they have the most realistic and fun gameplay on the market
Stadium - ASB wins this year even though most of those stadiums are fantasy expansion ones. Anyway I don't know if you would call this a game seller
Online Play - Well just depends on what console you own. This is a game seller no doubt and if you have an Xbox and want online play MVP is not a choice.
Manager Mode - ASB has this is some fashion but MVP is marketing it.
Cooperstown Collection - ASB heavily marketed this last year (still has it this yet), this year it's MVP.
Other than online play and a fielder cam there's not much that ASB has done other the tweak. And tweaking isn't going to cause as much hype and overhauling. MVP had the overhaul thing going but it also has added some features we haven't seen before or have been greatly enhanced. Minors, I was never able to play as a minor team before MVP. The sim out/in feautre. I would compare this equally with ASB's fielder cam. It's not going to sell many games but it's a nice feature.
So it seems that all the hype is being generated because MVP has seen the biggest overhaul of all the baseball games this year and that has peaked a lot of interest. And ASB sure sounds like it's more of the same. That's not bad but it's not going to generate a lot of hype.
This isn't a debate on what game is better, no one knows that. This is a debate on hype which ultimately leads to game sales. EA Sports is hyping up their game. Acclaim has made it sound like it's more of the same and fans of ASB will be pleased. Will ASB fans were going to buy the game anyway what has ASB done compared with MVP that is getting people on the fence to buy their game?
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I've tried to stay out of this one, but this here post almost made me choke on my midnight snack...
JROD YOU did the OS ASB review last season. ASB had a ton...a FREAKING TON of new features. Now, to be fair, you did go alot farther than most reviewers. You actually mentioned the new features. A whole sentence!
Props for that..
The rest of the review was why you hate icon batting, how this or that wasn't quite perfect blah, blah, blah... ripped the game to shreds. There were at least 9 or 10 completely unique, never-before-seen gameplay additions, not to mention a standard-setting franchise mode, but that didn't mean a hill of SH!T to you. You not only ripped it in in the review, you got on the board DAILY and consistently re-ripped it.
Now all of a sudden because MVP has a few nice additions (very nice, I may add) your stance is that the innovation is why its so great? Pardon me as I laugh hysterically at your hypocrisy...
Good one JROD...
The truth is that ASB was JUST. TOO. HARD. for alot of people.
If a game has poor graphics, you don't get angry.
if the franchise is underwhelming you don't get angry.
if the rosters aren't perfect or the animations are a little off you arent THAT angry.
But when a game has you feeling frustrated and inept because of the difficulty, when you're ready too throw your controller across the room. Thats anger. That causes you to not only dislike a game, but to DESPISE a game. You DESPISE this game, and judge it accordingly. Simple fact. Please save the "they only tweaked it, ummmm thats why I don't like it" spiel, and don't mince words..Your review, though well-written, basically said that you do not like All-Star Baseball. The sad part is, you seem like an intelligent, avid basball gamer. ASB is MADE for guys like you. Had flaws? Hell yeah. Still the most realistic? Hell yeah. Go figure.
And on another note, 99.9% of the people who "mastered" ASB were not playing it at its peak difficulty. Exxagerated pitches were a crutch, as was the zone hitting. No points for getting good w/ either feature. Unless you mastered the game with NORMAL pitching, icon hitting, no strike-zone, and on All-Star...You didn't play the game at its hardest, and I only remember ONE guy on these forums that said he mastered it playing like that.
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MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game.
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Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year.
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C'mon Jrod. You don't actually believe these things you just said, do you? Maybe you do. In which case, the MVP hype machine may be worth every penny that has been spent by EA marketing.
I'm looking forward to MVP, but to say that it has "added so many never before features in the game," while ASB and others have stood still, is speaking with blinders on IMHO.
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Okay this is from the fact sheet feature list from OS and the acclaim website. MVP is from OS
- New fielding game.
- Analog-control batting
- online head-to-head
- exclusive TWIB features
- Deepest franchise mode
- Two-Man commentary
- Tutorial from Steve Lyons
- Create a player
- Over 80 fully animated stadium
- Most realisic baseball experience
Now MVP ( I had to selectively edit from the paragraphs included.
- EA Sports Pureswing system
- Big Play Control
- Franchise mode with team chemistry, club goals etc.
- Manager Mode
- Cooperstown collection
- The minors
- Pick you park - some stadium feature
- EA Sports nation - online PS2 play.
So what has ASB done above that of MVP.
Franchse - both state they have improved this area and it's pretty deep.
Gameplay - both say they have the most realistic and fun gameplay on the market
Stadium - ASB wins this year even though most of those stadiums are fantasy expansion ones. Anyway I don't know if you would call this a game seller
Online Play - Well just depends on what console you own. This is a game seller no doubt and if you have an Xbox and want online play MVP is not a choice.
Manager Mode - ASB has this is some fashion but MVP is marketing it.
Cooperstown Collection - ASB heavily marketed this last year (still has it this yet), this year it's MVP.
Other than online play and a fielder cam there's not much that ASB has done other the tweak. And tweaking isn't going to cause as much hype and overhauling. MVP had the overhaul thing going but it also has added some features we haven't seen before or have been greatly enhanced. Minors, I was never able to play as a minor team before MVP. The sim out/in feautre. I would compare this equally with ASB's fielder cam. It's not going to sell many games but it's a nice feature.
So it seems that all the hype is being generated because MVP has seen the biggest overhaul of all the baseball games this year and that has peaked a lot of interest. And ASB sure sounds like it's more of the same. That's not bad but it's not going to generate a lot of hype.
This isn't a debate on what game is better, no one knows that. This is a debate on hype which ultimately leads to game sales. EA Sports is hyping up their game. Acclaim has made it sound like it's more of the same and fans of ASB will be pleased. Will ASB fans were going to buy the game anyway what has ASB done compared with MVP that is getting people on the fence to buy their game?
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I've tried to stay out of this one, but this here post almost made me choke on my midnight snack...
JROD YOU did the OS ASB review last season. ASB had a ton...a FREAKING TON of new features. Now, to be fair, you did go alot farther than most reviewers. You actually mentioned the new features. A whole sentence!
Props for that..
The rest of the review was why you hate icon batting, how this or that wasn't quite perfect blah, blah, blah... ripped the game to shreds. There were at least 9 or 10 completely unique, never-before-seen gameplay additions, not to mention a standard-setting franchise mode, but that didn't mean a hill of SH!T to you. You not only ripped it in in the review, you got on the board DAILY and consistently re-ripped it.
Now all of a sudden because MVP has a few nice additions (very nice, I may add) your stance is that the innovation is why its so great? Pardon me as I laugh hysterically at your hypocrisy...
Good one JROD...
The truth is that ASB was JUST. TOO. HARD. for alot of people.
If a game has poor graphics, you don't get angry.
if the franchise is underwhelming you don't get angry.
if the rosters aren't perfect or the animations are a little off you arent THAT angry.
But when a game has you feeling frustrated and inept because of the difficulty, when you're ready too throw your controller across the room. Thats anger. That causes you to not only dislike a game, but to DESPISE a game. You DESPISE this game, and judge it accordingly. Simple fact. Please save the "they only tweaked it, ummmm thats why I don't like it" spiel, and don't mince words..Your review, though well-written, basically said that you do not like All-Star Baseball. The sad part is, you seem like an intelligent, avid basball gamer. ASB is MADE for guys like you. Had flaws? Hell yeah. Still the most realistic? Hell yeah. Go figure.
And on another note, 99.9% of the people who "mastered" ASB were not playing it at its peak difficulty. Exxagerated pitches were a crutch, as was the zone hitting. No points for getting good w/ either feature. Unless you mastered the game with NORMAL pitching, icon hitting, no strike-zone, and on All-Star...You didn't play the game at its hardest, and I only remember ONE guy on these forums that said he mastered it playing like that.
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MVP is getting more press because it has added so many never before seen features in the game.
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Now from ASB standpoint. I can't tell you off the top of my head why they have done different from last year.
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C'mon Jrod. You don't actually believe these things you just said, do you? Maybe you do. In which case, the MVP hype machine may be worth every penny that has been spent by EA marketing.
I'm looking forward to MVP, but to say that it has "added so many never before features in the game," while ASB and others have stood still, is speaking with blinders on IMHO.
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Okay this is from the fact sheet feature list from OS and the acclaim website. MVP is from OS
- New fielding game.
- Analog-control batting
- online head-to-head
- exclusive TWIB features
- Deepest franchise mode
- Two-Man commentary
- Tutorial from Steve Lyons
- Create a player
- Over 80 fully animated stadium
- Most realisic baseball experience
Now MVP ( I had to selectively edit from the paragraphs included.
- EA Sports Pureswing system
- Big Play Control
- Franchise mode with team chemistry, club goals etc.
- Manager Mode
- Cooperstown collection
- The minors
- Pick you park - some stadium feature
- EA Sports nation - online PS2 play.
So what has ASB done above that of MVP.
Franchse - both state they have improved this area and it's pretty deep.
Gameplay - both say they have the most realistic and fun gameplay on the market
Stadium - ASB wins this year even though most of those stadiums are fantasy expansion ones. Anyway I don't know if you would call this a game seller
Online Play - Well just depends on what console you own. This is a game seller no doubt and if you have an Xbox and want online play MVP is not a choice.
Manager Mode - ASB has this is some fashion but MVP is marketing it.
Cooperstown Collection - ASB heavily marketed this last year (still has it this yet), this year it's MVP.
Other than online play and a fielder cam there's not much that ASB has done other the tweak. And tweaking isn't going to cause as much hype and overhauling. MVP had the overhaul thing going but it also has added some features we haven't seen before or have been greatly enhanced. Minors, I was never able to play as a minor team before MVP. The sim out/in feautre. I would compare this equally with ASB's fielder cam. It's not going to sell many games but it's a nice feature.
So it seems that all the hype is being generated because MVP has seen the biggest overhaul of all the baseball games this year and that has peaked a lot of interest. And ASB sure sounds like it's more of the same. That's not bad but it's not going to generate a lot of hype.
This isn't a debate on what game is better, no one knows that. This is a debate on hype which ultimately leads to game sales. EA Sports is hyping up their game. Acclaim has made it sound like it's more of the same and fans of ASB will be pleased. Will ASB fans were going to buy the game anyway what has ASB done compared with MVP that is getting people on the fence to buy their game?
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I've tried to stay out of this one, but this here post almost made me choke on my midnight snack...
JROD YOU did the OS ASB review last season. ASB had a ton...a FREAKING TON of new features. Now, to be fair, you did go alot farther than most reviewers. You actually mentioned the new features. A whole sentence!
Props for that..
The rest of the review was why you hate icon batting, how this or that wasn't quite perfect blah, blah, blah... ripped the game to shreds. There were at least 9 or 10 completely unique, never-before-seen gameplay additions, not to mention a standard-setting franchise mode, but that didn't mean a hill of SH!T to you. You not only ripped it in in the review, you got on the board DAILY and consistently re-ripped it.
Now all of a sudden because MVP has a few nice additions (very nice, I may add) your stance is that the innovation is why its so great? Pardon me as I laugh hysterically at your hypocrisy...
Good one JROD...
The truth is that ASB was JUST. TOO. HARD. for alot of people.
If a game has poor graphics, you don't get angry.
if the franchise is underwhelming you don't get angry.
if the rosters aren't perfect or the animations are a little off you arent THAT angry.
But when a game has you feeling frustrated and inept because of the difficulty, when you're ready too throw your controller across the room. Thats anger. That causes you to not only dislike a game, but to DESPISE a game. You DESPISE this game, and judge it accordingly. Simple fact. Please save the "they only tweaked it, ummmm thats why I don't like it" spiel, and don't mince words..Your review, though well-written, basically said that you do not like All-Star Baseball. The sad part is, you seem like an intelligent, avid basball gamer. ASB is MADE for guys like you. Had flaws? Hell yeah. Still the most realistic? Hell yeah. Go figure.
And on another note, 99.9% of the people who "mastered" ASB were not playing it at its peak difficulty. Exxagerated pitches were a crutch, as was the zone hitting. No points for getting good w/ either feature. Unless you mastered the game with NORMAL pitching, icon hitting, no strike-zone, and on All-Star...You didn't play the game at its hardest, and I only remember ONE guy on these forums that said he mastered it playing like that.
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I'm sorry, but I've been playing ASB since the first year and I think I've mastered icon hitting. Its just too easy now. I've gone back to playing ASB04 since all the previews have been coming up, but its still WAY too easy. I never used exaggerated pitching, in my opinion the pitch speeds were too easy last year (with the exception of Randy Johnson's fastball, but his slider was like mid 70's???). In fact I started playing on zone hitting just so I wouldn't hit as many hrs. Once you get the timing down, EVERY YEAR the hitting is too easy w/icons. Last year they did a good job of not giving you a HR every time you hit it solidly w/the power icon, but I still changed after I had 25 HRs in 40 games with Bonds. I still haven't finished my first season because it got too easy, my record is 65-10, and most of those 10 losses were in the first week. I played 3 franchises at the same time, so I've played a LOT more than just those 75 games. The only time the game was ever challenging was when I was playing w/my roommate vs the cpu, since he never played before and we were an expansion team. I've been loyal to ASB since it first came out on the N64, because it was the only game at the time that had double switches(though they were messed up). I would have had trouble deciding between ASB and MVP this year, but ASB made it easy for me when they stopped developing for the gamecube. Maybe it was time for a new challenge anyway. I hope you all find what your looking for in ASB05, and I hope MVP will put up a fight.
On a side note, I also just discounted every review I read of ASB that said the game was too hard. I knew how hard the game was, but if you didn't take the time to learn how to play, than I didn't want to take the time to read a review of them ripping apart the game.Comment
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I'm sorry, but I've been playing ASB since the first year and I think I've mastered icon hitting. Its just too easy now. I've gone back to playing ASB04 since all the previews have been coming up, but its still WAY too easy. I never used exaggerated pitching, in my opinion the pitch speeds were too easy last year (with the exception of Randy Johnson's fastball, but his slider was like mid 70's???). In fact I started playing on zone hitting just so I wouldn't hit as many hrs. Once you get the timing down, EVERY YEAR the hitting is too easy w/icons. Last year they did a good job of not giving you a HR every time you hit it solidly w/the power icon, but I still changed after I had 25 HRs in 40 games with Bonds. I still haven't finished my first season because it got too easy, my record is 65-10, and most of those 10 losses were in the first week. I played 3 franchises at the same time, so I've played a LOT more than just those 75 games. The only time the game was ever challenging was when I was playing w/my roommate vs the cpu, since he never played before and we were an expansion team. I've been loyal to ASB since it first came out on the N64, because it was the only game at the time that had double switches(though they were messed up). I would have had trouble deciding between ASB and MVP this year, but ASB made it easy for me when they stopped developing for the gamecube. Maybe it was time for a new challenge anyway. I hope you all find what your looking for in ASB05, and I hope MVP will put up a fight.
On a side note, I also just discounted every review I read of ASB that said the game was too hard. I knew how hard the game was, but if you didn't take the time to learn how to play, than I didn't want to take the time to read a review of them ripping apart the game.Comment
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I'm sorry, but I've been playing ASB since the first year and I think I've mastered icon hitting. Its just too easy now. I've gone back to playing ASB04 since all the previews have been coming up, but its still WAY too easy. I never used exaggerated pitching, in my opinion the pitch speeds were too easy last year (with the exception of Randy Johnson's fastball, but his slider was like mid 70's???). In fact I started playing on zone hitting just so I wouldn't hit as many hrs. Once you get the timing down, EVERY YEAR the hitting is too easy w/icons. Last year they did a good job of not giving you a HR every time you hit it solidly w/the power icon, but I still changed after I had 25 HRs in 40 games with Bonds. I still haven't finished my first season because it got too easy, my record is 65-10, and most of those 10 losses were in the first week. I played 3 franchises at the same time, so I've played a LOT more than just those 75 games. The only time the game was ever challenging was when I was playing w/my roommate vs the cpu, since he never played before and we were an expansion team. I've been loyal to ASB since it first came out on the N64, because it was the only game at the time that had double switches(though they were messed up). I would have had trouble deciding between ASB and MVP this year, but ASB made it easy for me when they stopped developing for the gamecube. Maybe it was time for a new challenge anyway. I hope you all find what your looking for in ASB05, and I hope MVP will put up a fight.
On a side note, I also just discounted every review I read of ASB that said the game was too hard. I knew how hard the game was, but if you didn't take the time to learn how to play, than I didn't want to take the time to read a review of them ripping apart the game.Comment
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Some how I keep getting into this which game is better battle, and I just don't know.
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