New Info on power and contact sliders

[serialmike]

I do not have new slider set yet for anyone to try but,

I want to let you guys know that these two sliders do not work quite like you might think.

they work better!

In the old high heat tune file there was a way to tune bat size (thickness) and sweet spot size (how big the sweet spot was)

This did a few things. It allowed you to get the bat to feel exactly like a real bat thru the zone. It also ended up adjusting the ball physics.

Well in this game contact does not mean the difference between 2 hits and 15 hits per game as much as it means making the bat smaller or larger. I turned mine up to 75 and now i do not strike out 13 times a game against a scrub! There are alot more fouls and the balls have some nice realistic action.

Now with that said we goto the power slider. This slider does not magically make balls go farther on every hit and give more or less home runs. what it does is makes the sweet spot on the bat bigger or smaller. Making it harder to or easier to be of timed and hit the ball hard.
So i turned this to 25.

Now I get true to life variety of hits and not everything is swing and miss or HR. Now i get truer ball physics....twisting balls down the lines, hard hit lines on a clothes line....soft bloops to short left and right for jeter and cano to eat up! Simply put its fantastic!

The old highheat tune file adjustsment that was gone for so long seems to have made it back into both games this year!!!

[Walker8]

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I did the same thing. I took some of the sliders I had been messing around with and turned up the contact slider. People think turning this up will result in a lot more hits and that is not the case. I just strikeout less and get a lot more contact swings. I also turned up the cpu power and they hit more hrs and are more of a threat. I basically took DAn's sliders and adjusted a few things, increased the speed of the fielders a tad too because I was seeing way too many bloop hits. The sliders work well for the most part. Still a glitchy game and its far from perfect but it does play a very good game of baseball at its core. If 2k can fix some of the scoring and franchise glitches and tune the batting, pitching and fielding a bit more this game will be awesome. I basically took dan's sliders turned up my contact 10, the cpu's power 10, and the infielder and of speed and arms up 10 and I'm seeing some really good stuff. I also turned the pitching interface down to 85 and switched to zone 1 pitching. Payoff at 100 or Zone 1 at 85 is fairly equal. I'm seeing a few more walks and meat pitches with zonel. I might go back to payoff at 100, but it's basically preference.

One thing this game does have going for it though is the sliders do work really well. The graphics and animations are top notch and the physics of the game are good too for the most part. The batting and fielding could use a little work(I wish the fielding wasn't so automatic at times, I love it when I make a good play though).

[Wootabilitydotcom]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

and what about the exorbitant number of home runs being hit by the user? Wouldn't raising the power add to that?

[serialmike]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

i at my numbers am not seeing crazy hr numbers.

[Pmogs10]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

So is this true, has anyone else tested these and found the game to play much better?

Currently I am the Mets at stand at 13-3 with decent stats but a more realistic game and realistic hits is what im lookin for

Currently Human
Contact = 25
Power = 0

AI
Contact = 65
Power = 50

what should these be changed to in order to get more realistic hits and a better play of the game?

BTW i am usuing classic hitting if that changes anything

[Walker8]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

I have user power and step and the other power setting at like 15 i think so no. I think the settings are power, power swing and step influence or something like that. I think I have them 15, 15 and 25. I noticed with a lot of the sliders settings they have contact around 20 or 30. I upped it to 40 and I'm not seeing more hits, just less so's. It seems like some people ahve this set very low. I upped the cpu power from 50 to 55. So that only affects the cpu. Thome was a threat. The past couple games I played the royals against the white sox and Thome was hitting dinky hits that were not thome like. I upped the power and he was a monster like he should be. Switching to zone pitching had something to do with that as well, so if you aren't using zone i would suggest 60 for ai power.

[brunnoce]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

I do not have new slider set yet for anyone to try but,

I want to let you guys know that these two sliders do not work quite like you might think.

they work better!

In the old high heat tune file there was a way to tune bat size (thickness) and sweet spot size (how big the sweet spot was)

This did a few things. It allowed you to get the bat to feel exactly like a real bat thru the zone. It also ended up adjusting the ball physics.

Well in this game contact does not mean the difference between 2 hits and 15 hits per game as much as it means making the bat smaller or larger. I turned mine up to 75 and now i do not strike out 13 times a game against a scrub! There are alot more fouls and the balls have some nice realistic action.

Now with that said we goto the power slider. This slider does not magically make balls go farther on every hit and give more or less home runs. what it does is makes the sweet spot on the bat bigger or smaller. Making it harder to or easier to be of timed and hit the ball hard.
So i turned this to 25.

Now I get true to life variety of hits and not everything is swing and miss or HR. Now i get truer ball physics....twisting balls down the lines, hard hit lines on a clothes line....soft bloops to short left and right for jeter and cano to eat up! Simply put its fantastic!

The old highheat tune file adjustsment that was gone for so long seems to have made it back into both games this year!!!

man you hit the spot right there..thats exactly what those sliders do...just check my thread in the sliders section...
i m using 100 for contact and 0 for power and getting a gr8 variaty of hits and relistic stats. also, i use swing stick with step influency at 100.


at first i was afraid i would get too many hits a game..but never happened...

[Walker8]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

I guess we can throw out all sliders at this point lol. I want to see some sliders that really take advantage of this.

[baa7]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

I turned mine up to 75 and now i do not strike out 13 times a game against a scrub!

You play with contact at 75? That'll produce 20+ hits every game.

[baa7]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

and what about the exorbitant number of home runs being hit by the user? Wouldn't raising the power add to that?

One of the reasons the contact slider has to be kept low in 2K baseball is because the greater the contact, the more loft you get on the ball = too many flyballs and HR's and not enough groundballs. Power of course adds to the player's ability to hit HR's and flyballs, but the contact rating is almost as critical.

[serialmike]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

You play with contact at 75? That'll produce 20+ hits every game.

no , it wont....especially with the power turned down.

It DOES NOT result in more hits and if it does then the counter to this is not playing with the slider for contact.

once you have bat size down and sweet spot down

adjust the step to be influenced more so that bad timing makes for bad contact and the pitch speed faster to make it harder....this is the way to go!

[brunnoce]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

You play with contact at 75? That'll produce 20+ hits every game.

not at all baa7...
at least not for me...
b4 i had contact at 30 and i was getting about the same amount number of hits as i do now with it at 0.... the only diference is that i dont strike out + than 10 every game anymore...although i do strike out quite much against aces...last game i played b.seets strike me out 11 times in 8 innings. i won the game box score:
cubs: 2r 6h 0e
brewers: 1r 7h 1e

great game, very exiciting!


edit:yeah i think the step influency slider playes a great deal in this hit matter....thats why i have it set at 100.

[sask3m]

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the message under human contact says "move to the right to have your batters make more contact with the ball" doesn't say to have them get more hits, contact can also be ground balls popups etc.

[Walker8]

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These guys are right. I wish I knew what a good mix is for contact, power and step though. I've messed around with teh contact slider and it doesnt mean more hits. It means mroe contact, foul balls, ground outs and the like and less strikeouts. Seriously, how often do you hit a ball that is out of the zone with contact at 20 or 30? Never.... This is not realistic. Upping contact you can hit balls out of the zone and its more realistic. This is why the default pro settings were so good in a way, same with the allstar settings, hitting is more fun, although the power slider was too high. Now that I'm using sliders I'm getting good games but it's not nearly as fun or realistic imo. I think most people have the contact slider way too low. Plus most slider sets have completely eliminated the step timing.

[sask3m]

Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

not at all baa7...
at least not for me...
b4 i had contact at 30 and i was getting about the same amount number of hits as i do now with it at 0.... the only diference is that i dont strike out + than 10 every game anymore...although i do strike out quite much against aces...last game i played b.seets strike me out 11 times in 8 innings. i won the game box score:
cubs: 2r 6h 0e
brewers: 1r 7h 1e

great game, very exiciting!


edit:yeah i think the step influency slider playes a great deal in this hit matter....thats why i have it set at 100.

when you swing with the stick do you just release it and go with strictly timing or do you direct your hits and also push up for power?